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 Post subject: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:27 am 
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I met Robert Cheeke when he came to DC last summer and purchased his book, although I'll admit I spent most of the winter laying on my fat butt...lol. I'm determined now to kick the ugly habits and transition to a vegan diet.. but I feel like I need to jump start my weight loss and fast to eliminate the awful cravings that lure me into binge eating so often... If anyone has tips on how to whittle down the middle, in particular, please share!


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:17 am 
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Calorie deficit and cardio. Drop 500 to 700 calories from your diet and you'll lose weight. This should be easy because you arn't eating a lot of bad food anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:58 pm 
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actually you should be taking fat-burning suppliments
MCT oil, 3 tbsp a day
chromium picolinate, 500mcg/day
CLA, 3.4g /d
l-carnitine, 1.5g /d
one grapefruit /d
3 cups of 'real' green tea /d
[ 200mg caffeine, 24mg ephedrine, 84mg aspirin ] morning and lunch
5-6 Litres of filtered water

along with your standard vegan diet
3-4 times a week of high intensity interval training for 20 minutes.

usually my diet consists of as much food as i want, as long as its whole foods, plant based.

fasting is bad, because when you're hungry, the body goes catabolic and stores fat and uses your muscles for energy.
if you need to constantly eat throughout the day to stay not hungry, even if it's chopped up carrots and celery then that's okay too.

within 90 days if you follow everything exactly you should have a flat stomach.
http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitnes ... fects.aspx (press esc to get rid of message)

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:55 pm 
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I met Robert Cheeke when he came to DC last summer and purchased his book, although I'll admit I spent most of the winter laying on my fat butt...lol. I'm determined now to kick the ugly habits and transition to a vegan diet.. but I feel like I need to jump start my weight loss and fast to eliminate the awful cravings that lure me into binge eating so often...


Why jump start anything??? You have Cheeke's book right?? Do you have a day by day plan written out?
What you will eat? What you will do for your workout schedual?
It's all right there. Take an eveing at home and write out what you will do each day. (including rest days) Rough out your meal plan 3 or 4 days in advance and THEN go to the store. Just start taking these simple easy steps and stick to it. Yes- You will mess up like I did but see it as a passing flub-And vow not to do it again. 3x5 index cards are perfect for this. Each night before bed, lay out the next days card and prep what you can food wise in the evening.

Slowly sub in Vegan meat options. (Trader Joe's "meatless meat balls" is a great tool to move away from meat.)
OK-Get started!


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:53 pm 
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There's no "right" way for everyone to lose fat, but one thing's for sure, spot-reduction does not happen, period. Most people will have a "stubborn" area that's the last to go (for me, it's the lower belly and love handles, always hanging around until the last minue...)

Some do well on high protein (like myself), some do better on lower fat/high carbohydrates, but one thing's for sure, you'll want to keep track of everything you eat, learn your baseline caloric intake for maintaining your current weight, and cut a bit off the top of that as well as do weight training and cardio for the best effects. You can't lose fat if you take in more calories than your body can burn in a day, so learning where your maintenance caloric intake levels are is the best place to begin. Make sure you spend about a week eating around what you THINK your baseline is for keeping weight stable (if you think it's around, say, 1800 calories/day, start there, shoot for that amount of calories each day for a week or two, and track your weight and get bodyfat measurements before and after. If anything goes up more than a fraction (to account for water weight fluctuations), you may find that you need to lower your intake accordingly, perhaps by cutting 200-300 cal./day and doing a bit of light cardio. If you lose weight at that level, then you know you can eat more to maintain, and then you're at a good point to begin tracking how much you should be eating for your first stretch into a fat loss program.

One thing's for sure, fasts/cleanses don't flush out fat - you may "detox", but you're likely going to lose as much muscle or more than any fat lost, and that can actually INCREASE your overall bodyfat percentage while decreasing your weight. Your body, when in starvation mode, will eat away at muscle for fuel first as a preferred source, which is the LAST thing anyone wants when trying to lose fat. Muscle loss will reduce how many calories your body burns during the day, not to mention it will add to the visual effect of having more fat even if your bodyfat levels stay the same while losing muscle. Definitely not a good way to try and lose fat under any circumstances, because even worse, if you overeat at all after coming off of a fast, you'll rebound and likely put on fat at a much faster rate than ever. If you want to "detox", then a short fast is fine, but if you want to lose fat, it's going to be a major roadblock to progress and may well do more harm than good in the end.

Slow and sensible is always the best way, the more radical the plan, the more likely the effects will turn against you if things are not done 100% perfectly. There's no magic bullet for fat loss that works on everyone, it's a matter of experimenting with various methods of diet and training until you finally find what your own body responds to best (nothing works well for everyone, no matter how much there may be people claiming it does, some programs simply are bad for some individuals).

Best of success in your journey!

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:15 pm 
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I would suggest more cardio, some more cardio and a little more cardio and then some ab work.
Obviously you should be expending more than your consume on a daily basis and that belly flab should go!

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:54 pm 
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Rob_T wrote:
[ 200mg caffeine, 24mg ephedrine, 84mg aspirin ] morning and lunch
The EC stack is probably the most effective of your list, though the aspirin isn't necessary.

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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on banishing belly flab?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:53 pm 
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chrisjs wrote:
Rob_T wrote:
[ 200mg caffeine, 24mg ephedrine, 84mg aspirin ] morning and lunch
The EC stack is probably the most effective of your list, though the aspirin isn't necessary.


you're right, doesn't really make that much sense so ill try cutting out the 84mg asa

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