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Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#1 Postby Fallen_Horse » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:28 pm

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Re: Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#2 Postby chrisjs » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:48 pm

Interesting article. Light on specifics which is probably a good thing considering how many times we've been wrong about this stuff before.

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#3 Postby beforewisdom » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:33 pm

Gary Taubes is the same guy who helped bring back the low carb craze that started Atkins off on his last cycle.

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#4 Postby Fallen_Horse » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:36 pm

beforewisdom wrote:Gary Taubes is the same guy who helped bring back the low carb craze that started Atkins off on his last cycle.

Irrelevant to the judgement of the article quality.
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Re: Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#5 Postby Linanil » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:48 pm

I have a short attention span, I need the cliff notes version. As much as I read, it was interesting but I gave up. Although obesity has many factors. I think inactivity seems to be a larger factor in the US but processed/refined foods have a part as well.

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#6 Postby Fallen_Horse » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:58 am

Linanil wrote:I have a short attention span, I need the cliff notes version. As much as I read, it was interesting but I gave up. Although obesity has many factors. I think inactivity seems to be a larger factor in the US but processed/refined foods have a part as well.

It's actually not about obesity really, but about the toxicity of sugar....

"Lustig’s argument, however, is not about the consumption of empty calories — and biochemists have made the same case previously, though not so publicly. It is that sugar has unique characteristics, specifically in the way the human body metabolizes the fructose in it, that may make it singularly harmful, at least if consumed in sufficient quantities.
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As Lustig points out, sugar and high-fructose corn syrup are certainly not “acute toxins” of the kind the F.D.A. typically regulates and the effects of which can be studied over the course of days or months. The question is whether they’re “chronic toxins,” which means “not toxic after one meal, but after 1,000 meals.”"
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Re: Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#7 Postby chrisjs » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:25 am

Fallen_Horse wrote:It's actually not about obesity really, but about the toxicity of sugar....
Yep, the two takeaways I got were regarding fatty livers and feeding precancerous cells.

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Re: Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#8 Postby beforewisdom » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:18 am

Fallen_Horse wrote:
beforewisdom wrote:Gary Taubes is the same guy who helped bring back the low carb craze that started Atkins off on his last cycle.

Irrelevant to the judgement of the article quality.


Maybe not. Taube's original article about low carb diets was filled full of non facts. He has a history of talking out of the side of his mouth.

"Toxic" has a technical definition that likely does not fit sugar.

People have known for decades that eating lots of sugar is not healthy. Taube isn't saying anything new. Having a candy bar or a teaspoon of sugar in your coffee isn't going to hurt anyone.

Sloppy eating habbits are.

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Re: Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#9 Postby Linanil » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:23 am

chrisjs wrote:
Fallen_Horse wrote:It's actually not about obesity really, but about the toxicity of sugar....
Yep, the two takeaways I got were regarding fatty livers and feeding precancerous cells.

See, I didn't get that far :)

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Re: Article: Is Sugar Toxic?

#10 Postby Fallen_Horse » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:49 pm

beforewisdom wrote:"Toxic" has a technical definition that likely does not fit sugar.


That's the idea we are looking at, no one really knows yet if it's toxic. I think it's a valid research area.
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