compassionategirl Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Does anybody have any knowledge or experience with the ability or effectiveness of Chinese herbal medicine in the helping (not necessarily totally curing) cancer? There is this product that this chinese herbalist guy says can help reduce cancer (but not necessarily leiminate it 100%) and it costs like 20 bucks a day and one would have to use it for 2 months to see results. Not sure if there can be any truth to these claims or they are a scam - i know nothing about Chinese medicine so i would appreciate it if you all can share any knowledge or experience about this with me. And no, I dont have cancer. It is for somebody else that I am inquiring. thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollegeB Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 If its herbs then why is it so expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 not sure. i am going to get the exact name and the ingredients and post them here for all yours opinions and scrutiny. thnaks - this is obviously a life or death situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollegeB Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 if its life or death then what does the cost matter... I didnt read your whole post sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollegeB Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Though yeah it could be a scam. Are there no cancer drugs for this person to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 hey college if I knew that it wasnt a scam, the the cost wouldnt matter to me either -but the point is that i dont know if its a scam. my dad has tried everything - traditonal docs say that there is nothing else that can be done. that is why i am hoping that this chinese herbalist doctor is for real. will post the details tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kollision Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Just make sure it aint Bear bile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 i asked him that specific question and he said no. how can I be sure he isnt lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sknydpr Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I don't believe bear bile is used for treating cancer. I Googled this: Bear Bile in Ancient Chinese Culture Bile is a digestive liquid secreted by the liver and stored in the gall bladder. Bile from bears has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for centuries to “cool,” in terms of Chinese physiotherapy, “hot” illnesses, such as inflammations, and to dissolve gallstones and kidney stones. It is also believed to help detoxify the liver and improve vision. According to Walker’s “Mammals of the World” (Ronald M. Nowak, Johns Hopkins University Press 1999), there is some scientific basis for the medical efficacy of bear bile. Bears are the only mammals that manufacture the bile salt ursodeoxycholic acid, which has been shown in Western laboratory tests to be effective in treating some liver diseases. A synthesized form of this substance is widely used to dissolve gallstones without surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelhobson Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 You may want to check out these links:To locate a qualified practitioner in your area, contact: * The American Association of Oriental Medicine, http://www.aaom.org/ or 888-500-7999 * The National Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine, http://www.nccaom.org/ or 703-548-9004 * The national Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine Alliance, http://www.acuall.org or 253-851-6896 * The Institute of Traditional Medicine, http://www.itmonline.org or 503-233-4907 From an article http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsModalities/TraditionalChineseMedicinecm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 thanks Dan and Michael. Will look into it and thanks for those links (although I dont live in the States - but maybe they can still be helpful. thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 okay so the Chinese herbal med is called Tian Lu Oral Liquid. IT says it is bascially a soybean and certain kind of mushroom extract, that is has been approved by the Ministry of Health in China, provides a registration number, and says that it is also nsured by Safety Insurance Company of China. The distributor in Canada is Kastel Company. May I trouble some of you who are really good with locating info on the net to search for some info on this and post it here? I am not good with the internet, and cannot be objective and rational in assessing this Chinese herbalist's claim for obvious reasons. I would thus appreciate it if any of you who can comment about this based on some experience, knowledge, info or expertise would do so here and help me figure out if this is just a scam or if it actually can be a real solution for my dad's cancer. Thanks in advance.nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelhobson Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Sorry cgirl, but the only reference I can find to this stuff is this: "An acupuncture clinic displays a hand-lettered sign: "By taking Tian Lu oral liquid -- cancer patients have effective rate of 90-95% cure."http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_01.02.03/city/riverdale.html and that's just a passing mention in a long article about other things. I have to assume that a product that actually works in fighting cancer would have received at least a mention on some web site or a news article, anything really. I wish you and your dad all the best. I unfortunately understand first hand what you are going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sknydpr Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Sorry cgirl, but the only reference I can find to this stuff is this: "An acupuncture clinic displays a hand-lettered sign: "By taking Tian Lu oral liquid -- cancer patients have effective rate of 90-95% cure."http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_01.02.03/city/riverdale.html and that's just a passing mention in a long article about other things. That's the ONLY reference to it that I've found so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 Thanks Michael and Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sknydpr Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm sorry, I tried doing broader searches and still nothing. I have to say that I was skeptical about this stuff in the beginning, and more so now. But I got the impression that this is kind of a last resort, so I don't know what I would do in your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted July 26, 2005 Author Share Posted July 26, 2005 Hey Dan, ya it kinda is a last resort. All "tradiional" methods have been tried. I really appreciate yours, College Bs and Michael's time and input. Means a lot to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbigailHancock Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Chinese Herbal medicine has gained attention for its potential role in cancer treatment. Traditional Chinese herbs, including rosemary herb, are being explored for their anti-cancer properties. Rosemary herb contains compounds that may help inhibit the growth of cancer cells and reduce inflammation, making it a promising candidate for complementary cancer therapies. While further research is needed, Chinese Herbal medicine, with rosemary herb as a potential component, offers hope for new approaches to cancer management and prevention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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