kanadaguy Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hello I used to be vegan and was body building then found the amount of protein using vegan sources was too many calories as I was trying to gain muscle and loose fat.... So I went to whey now I am switching back to vegan .. My question is this... If I was supposed to intake 30 grams of protein to gain muscle with a non vegan diet, do I still require that much or more due to it being from vegan sources? Does the 1 of protein per lbs still the same being a vegan bodybuilder? Any info would be helpful thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSxvx Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 You can find vegan protein powders that have the same if not less calories than the whey protein per serving. You should require the same amount as before. Just try to eat as many unprocessed whole foods (raw if possible) as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungleinthefrunk Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) There are certain vegan protein sources that are higher on the carbs than is ideal for someone who is in the cutting phase, like myself. Here is my current meal plan, i have to eat 25 grams of protein at each meal, total of 150 for the day. 130 carbs for the day, descending from the first meal to the 6th, 70 grams fat, ascending. Protein is protein.....just cause its vegan doesnt make it any less valuable. but if you eat things like beans or quinoa for your protein, the carbs will add up and thats not ideal if you are trying to drop weight. I supplement a little more than i would like to with pea/rice powder, but i could easily take that out of one or two meals if i really wanted to, but its just easier than having to worry about cooking all that tofu, tempeh, seitain, when I could just mix some powder with some water. I mentioned this in my joural too, i just took a posing class today. Here is what I eat every day. My plan was approved by my coach who has his natural pro-card. He is not vegan. Meal 1 - 9amSilk - Soy Milk Organic Unsweetened, 6 oz 60 3g 3g 5g 0mg 64mg 1g 1gBob's Red Mill - Steel Cut Oats - Oatmeal , 1/4 cup dry 170 29g 3g 7g 0mg 0mg 0g 5gOlympian Labs - Pea Protein, Vanilla, 26.25 g 79 1g 0g 19g 0mg 218mg 0g 0gStrawberries - Raw, 5 small (1" dia) 11 3g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 2g 1gMeal 2 - 11 amDiamond - Chopped Walnuts, 1/8 cup 100 2g 10g 3g 0mg 0mg 1g 1gBob's Red Mill - Cous Cous, 31 g 115 24g 0g 4g 0mg 2mg 0g 1gOlympian Labs - Pea Protein, Vanilla, 26.25 g 79 1g 0g 19g 0mg 218mg 0g 0gStrawberries - Raw, 5 small (1" dia) 11 3g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 2g 1gMeal 3 - 1:30pmGeneric - Almonds Raw Approximately 29 Kernels = 1 oz, 0.65 oz 105 4g 9g 4g 0mg 0mg 1g 2gVegetable - Broccoli Steamed (Plain), 1 cup 23 5g 0g 1g 0mg 180mg 1g 2gWestsoy - Seitan Stir Fry Strips, 0.25 cup (85g) 105 6g 2g 18g 0mg 353mg 2g 1gRice - Brown, medium-grain, cooked, 0.25 cup 55 11g 0g 1g 0mg 0mg 0g 1gBragg - Liquid Aminos - All Purpose Seasoning From Soy Protein, 1/2 tsp (2.5 ml) 0 0g 0g 0g 0mg 160mg 0g 0gMeal 4 - 4pmExplore Asian - Organic Black Bean Spaghetti, 1.75 oz 187 16g 5g 21g 0mg 78mg 0g 1gMaple Grove Farms - All Natural Creamy Peanut Butter, 0.8 tbsp 76 2g 6g 3g 0mg 6mg 1g 1gFresh Veg - Asparagus - Steamed, 4 Spears 12 1g 0g 2g 0mg 0mg 0g 1gMeal 5 - 7pmNasoya - Firm Tofu, 0.5 Package 175 5g 8g 18g 0mg 0mg 0g 3gOil - Olive, 0.5 tsp 20 0g 2g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0gMaple Grove Farms - All Natural Creamy Peanut Butter, 0.5 tbsp 48 2g 4g 2g 0mg 4mg 1g 1gNutribiotic Protien Powder - Chocolate Rice Protein, 0.5 tbsp 30 1g 0g 6g 0mg 4mg 1g 0gCelery - Raw, 2 stalk, medium (7-1/2" - 8" long) 11 2g 0g 1g 0mg 64mg 1g 1gMeal 6 - 9:30pmMaple Grove Farms - All Natural Creamy Peanut Butter, 1.5 tbsp 143 5g 11g 6g 0mg 11mg 2g 2gOlympian Labs - Pea Protein, Vanilla, 26.25 g 79 1g 0g 19g 0mg 218mg 0g 0gOil - Olive, 0.67 tablespoon 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0gTOTAL: 1,773 127g 72g 159g 0mg 1,580mg 16g 26g Edited January 5, 2013 by jungleinthefrunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustrobbieok Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 . Protein is protein..... Well thats not true! What about amino profiles and bv scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufflon Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 . Protein is protein..... Well thats not true! What about amino profiles and bv scores!Ok, that's true, but it doesn't matter if that perfect amino profile comes from a plant or an animal source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungleinthefrunk Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Had a feeling someone would object on me not clarifying every single point. My point was really about calorie and carb content v protein content and how to be careful in terms of that. I guess someone else can speak toAminos and bv. But I figured it went without saying since the original poster has hx of bb anyway and wasn't asking that but rather about issues of weight management. In my understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustrobbieok Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 . Protein is protein..... Well thats not true! What about amino profiles and bv scores!Ok, that's true, but it doesn't matter if that perfect amino profile comes from a plant or an animal source. I don't agree - it does matter, plant source is best what with us being vegans and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustrobbieok Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Had a feeling someone would object on me not clarifying every single point. My point was really about calorie and carb content v protein content and how to be careful in terms of that. I guess someone else can speak toAminos and bv. But I figured it went without saying since the original poster has hx of bb anyway and wasn't asking that but rather about issues of weight management. In my understanding Sorry! Wasn't trying to be awkward! Just want to make sure they know all the facts ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungleinthefrunk Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 NO worries, i guess i should have clarified. admittedly i am shaky about certain things, such as vitamins and amino profiles...but thats why i pay for a trainer. speaking of which, he just got back to me and told me that the aminos and my pea protein will suffice and i dont need to hunt down a new kind of vegan bcaa, the current kind is off of true protein.com for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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