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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:35 pm 
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veggiesasquatch wrote:
That's looks well tasty!

What spice did you add to the beans? Also what beans did you use?

I couldn't tell you mate as it was at a local vegetarian restaurant, I just asked for it spicey.

Hope you have a great weekend, Arnold weekend. Go Poundstone! I hope he does well although realistically I think he will finish 2nd or 3rd. I would have to back Savickas for the win.


I'll be backing Terry Holland & loz :)

Was hopin to be tagging along where laurence shahlei trains with a mate of mine this wkend but don't think it's happening now:(
plus he's at the Arnold obviously....

Have a good one matey, deload weeks done...bring it on haha

ps have you ever read Dinosaur Training?

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:48 pm 
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Mike Jenkins take the win, Poundstone second and Shaw tore his biceps. He actually suffered a partial tear on the first event which was Apollons Wheel; he continued to compete even with the tear and it looks like it completely went on the last part of the Timber Carry (which was the last event). We'll see what's up in upcoming days I am sure.

http://www.arnoldstrongmanclassic.com/index.html

Site has results, videos and pics!

Had an amazing workout last night, have been watching a lot of the Strongman finals the past week or so and have been somewhat inspired haha.

Will type it up later this morning, the last set I did saw me lying on my back afterwards, I probably needed oxygen as I was close to blacking out. If I could have bottled the intensity I had I could sell millions of them !!

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:50 pm 
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SUNDAY 4th March
BODYWEIGHT: 147
TRAINING TIME: 8.30pm
DURATION: 60mins
COMMENTS: Intensity was through the roof, determined to kick some arse tonight :boxer:
WEEK: DELOAD ~ BUGGER THAT !!
RESTING PULSE RATE: 48

APPETITE: GREAT
PRE WO NUTRITION: 450G oats + linseed, 100g muesli, 1 x banana, 3 x tbsp protein powder, raw walnuts, dessicated coconut, cinnamon and blackstrap molasses (see photo)

POST WO NUTRITION:
Image ** Just the one though, haha

STRENGTH ENDURANCE SESSION

CONVENTIONAL DL's
135 x 10
225 x 4
225 x 4
315 x 8
352 x 3

RAW BOX SQUATS, WIDE STANCE (box set at parallel)
BAR x 15
88 x 12
88 x 12
110 x 10
132 x 10

HAMMER STRENGTH DL
2PPS x 20
3PPS x 12
4PPS x 10
4.5PPS x 13 *PB*

** I really needed oxygen at the end of that set, I more or less collapsed and lost my vision for maybe 2 or 3 secs. Stayed on the floor for a couple of minutes.
Rep 3 felt so tough, then reps 4 and 5 felt okay. Got through to 8 okay and I felt like I was on my limit getting to 10, on reaching 10 I decided I was going to try for 12. After getting the 12th rep I took about a 10sec rest and slowly grinded out one more from somewhere ~ no way would I have got another rep.


I'll admit to you now, I was inspired by this...



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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:10 pm 
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Can I pick your brain on these greens powders mate?

Have you noticed a difference when using them? Do you just use it post workout?

Was thinking of getting this next time I order

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/or ... ass_powder

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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veggiesasquatch wrote:
Can I pick your brain on these greens powders mate?

Have you noticed a difference when using them? Do you just use it post workout?

Was thinking of getting this next time I order

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/or ... ass_powder

TBH I just throw a teaspoon into my shake whenever I have one. I don't notice any difference from taking it, apart from the fact that I rarely get sick nowadays. I don't think you can attribute that to the greens, but they would play a part as Barley Grass is extremely alkalising in the body; technically if you're body is in an alkaline state then you can't get sick. This is the main reason I use them.

I'd say if you can fit them into your budget they would be worth trying mate.

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:32 pm 
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Cool, £6 for the smallest bag won't break the bank to try them. Looks a great way to get in some minerals, Been thinking of trying them but seeing your post shakes it's made me want to try it. Did you have any issues using them at first? I know you need to start with a low serving.

I had a cheeky bottle of crabbies ginger beer yesterday :)

Hope you have a great lifting week

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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You pushing yourself so hard that you need to lie on the floor after makes me feel like a pansy! haha I'm going to re-read that post tomorrow before I head down to the gym for some motivation. You're crazy! :zwangsjacke:

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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You pushing yourself so hard that you need to lie on the floor after makes me feel like a pansy! haha I'm going to re-read that post tomorrow before I head down to the gym for some motivation. You're crazy! :zwangsjacke:

That's exactly what I was thinking haha! Maybe I need to start using some personal headphones and some rockin' tunes.


Forklift, do you know if Poundstone is natural or not? He go heavy on the supps? Heavy on protein?

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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Forklift, do you know if Poundstone is natural or not? He go heavy on the supps? Heavy on protein?


Not Forklift, but I can probably answer this one easily enough!

Poundstone is strong as hell, but not natural. Very, very few pro strongmen competitors are natural. Heck, even the bulk of the top level ams are on something these days. Having a handful of current and retired pros that train at our facility lets you hear all the details from the insiders. Even tons of guys who don't look like they're using are still on something, so long gone are the days when it was always 100% clear that someone was juiced.

Just figure this - most sports have an issue with performance enhancing drugs, be it baseball, football, track & field, strength athletics, and so on. Then, in particular, when you're talking about a guy who carries single-digit bodyfat levels on a 300+ lb. frame for a man who has deadlifted 900 lbs. and overhead pressed over 400, it should be pretty clear that Poundstone isn't clean. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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Saw him recently & he's incredibly lean isn't he for a strong man competitor ;)

I know he doesn't train full time in strong man events due to being a cop & have seen him stop half away through a dead set & he'll mimic the atlas stone movement. 

I think you'd need the DNA of a god to become that big/lean & strong.  

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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I think you'd need the DNA of a god to become that big/lean & strong.  


Quite true. The ones I've heard are clean/most likely clean are usually the ones that don't look as freakish (think Dave Ostlund, Phil Pfister, etc.) who had much more 'normal' bulky builds while maintaining great strength. As with any sport, once you get close to the top, most who may have never planned on using often end up doing so just because it's the only way to reach your peak and be on top since everyone else is in the same boat!

But, yeah, 300+ lbs. with single-digit bodyfat as I saw in a photo taken of Poundstone last week with veins popping out all over the place, it's pretty well not going to happen without some chemical assistance :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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If its the one I saw doing the rounds then ye I agree he looked huge but also cut to hell.

Maybe just how I think now but I'd rather be built like, all be it a smaller zydrunas savickas & know it's me doing the lifting.

Like you say though if those a round you are using how else can you really compete

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:03 pm 
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If its the one I saw doing the rounds then ye I agree he looked huge but also cut to hell.

Maybe just how I think now but I'd rather be built like, all be it a smaller zydrunas savickas & know it's me doing the lifting.

Like you say though if those a round you are using how else can you really compete

I'm assuming it was this photo:

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For someone that is 330lb there, that is simply amazing. Hard to get my head around!

One of my favourites in Strongman, he's definately very aware of what he is putting into his body although I can 100% guarantee you that he is not drug free. There's a great little interview one of my friends got with him a few days before this years Arnold Strongman competition, it's an 'off the record' one so has never been officially posted up anywhere. I'll find it and post it up as I thought it was an interesting read 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Strength Vs Size
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I cant agree saying its amazing knowing its not natural...just my view obviously

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 Post subject: Derek Poundstone Pre-Arnold 2012 Interview
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Poundstone is a busy man. Got married, opened a new gym, training for the Arnold, working full time, doing the Poundstone Power radio show, eating... you get the idea. I asked Derek if I could do a quick interview with him about his Arnold prep. A bit apprehensive at first due to his crazy schedule and my lack of tech savvy (inability to record phone calls, or lack of knowledge on how to do so) he quickly changed his mind and agreed to a quick email interview.

He not only does what he does, overcomes injuries, balances a crazy life but also still takes time for the "little guy". He is the best ambassador of the sport hands down. Enough of my yapping, heres the interview with his responses in red:

1 - Did you have any direct focus for this years Arnold training? Maybe bringing up a weak point or elaborating on a strong point?
My focus this year was to increase my static lifts when relating to the Arnold (deadlift and overhead press ) to rival the best static lifters in the world.

2 - I noticed on Facebook you mentioned that you were hitting several PRs in training the past few weeks. Coming from slightly more of a PLing background we try to peak on the platform rather than the gym. I take it you don't worry about peaking too early?
Peaking too early is a concern of mine, no one said my PR's were max attempts. In the recent YouTube video compilation pay particular attention to the 450 lb log press and 1005 lb reverse band pull, they weren't max effort. Im leaving my best for the competition, I'm pretty sure I will surprise a few people. The weight I've been moving has been insane lately and I have more in the tank.
Me: true. if you notice in the video his 450 log press is quicker and smoother than his 440.



3 - In the 2 most recent FB pics you posted you are 330 and very lean. Is that conditioning a focus of your training or a side effect of the way you train. Curious since many strength athletes are not as lean? Do you feel this condition will be beneficial in such a short heavy contest?
*For the readers: The Arnold is a 2 day event with brutal weights versus WSM which is 2 weeks long typically with "slightly lighter" events which require more athleticism (relatively speaking of course, they are all heavy!)
The perceived "conditioned" look is not a byproduct of cardio, I did none for the last month. I eat clean, train smart and respect what my body is capable of. The results of my desire to control every variable of what I put in my body and what work I can put out has resulted in my appearance. I find the low bf% helps my recovery. On a side note; I find myself in a sort of no-mans land. Fans of bodybuilding comment on my body fat being to high for their liking and fans of strength give me grief for being lean. I figured after being a professional strength athlete for 8 years now, people would get used to the idea that I'm a leaner athlete.

4 - New gym, full time police officer, Poundstone Power Radio, silly internet interviews... you are obviously very busy. How much sleep do you average a night? Do you feel more rest would yield better performance?
At times I go stretches with 4-5 hours a night but I feel best with 7 hours. Unfortunately that's not always possible but I live by the mantra, "no excuses".

5 - Diet/Nutrition - Anything new? Your Poundstone shakes became a popular conversation piece. You still drinking those? Calorie estimate per day for Arnold prep? And finally, how were the Birthday cake Oreos? I love Oreos!
The Oreo's are good but its Kristins way of living vicariously through myself. My calories are over 6,000 daily while prepping for te Arnold. What I'm doing different this time around; I've been spending more time working with my coach Thomas Ciaffiglione. He's been a great help since 2005 but now we work together daily plotting my training and food. The best part is he is the manager and was trainer at Poundstone Performance Training Center. We've found that the lessons learned by tweaking my workout have a direct application for the average person that wants to lose body fat and feel better about themselves. To date I've helped 4 average formerly obese guys lose over 100 lbs, I'm working on my 5th client who's down over 70 lbs since Nov 2011 and the most rewarding part is I haven't charged a penny. It's been my way of passing on the knowledge I've learned. These guys never asked for my help, it was just a seamless process. Because of time constraints my current project, his name is Bubba, will be my last. Tom and I are taking this knowledge and using it with out current gym clientele. Interesting enough, all my help has been over email or phone as a consultation and 3 of the guys are long haul truck drivers. This only proves my idea of "high performance living" that anyone can achieve greatness as long as they get the proper knowledge and someone to support them. If you think you're interested in making a change in your life, anything from losing a few lbs, getting in shape or reaching you maximum potential as an athlete, Tom and I can help, call my gym at (203) 721-7066 and leave a message or for you text junkies, text me your info to 505-433-PPWR (7797). We're building te Poundstone Performance website so for now phone and google text are best. Also check out http://www.poundstonepower.com

Good Luck Derek! Your always a crowd favorite. Shorter, leaner, overcoming injuries, opening gyms, doing radio shows, etc... your hard guy not to root for. Thanks for your time!
You're to kind. I don't think in a crowd favorite, I just think it's easy to root for all the athletes at this level. We all love what we do and it comes across to the fans.

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