Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness

Healthy Food Defines You
It is currently Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:41 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 428 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:19 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
alkahest wrote:
Hey I recently joined the board and have been spending time reading through your journal. I've gotten lots of great info, inspiration, and ideas from reading it. Keep it up!


First off, welcome to the board, mate! This is such a great compliment - thank you and thank you for reading! I'm glad you were able to gain something from my long-winded ramblings. If you have any questions about anything, don't hesitate to ask.

Mini Forklift Ⓥ wrote:
Here's my 2c (FWIW)...

DL's - great to lift barefoot, or at least with a shoe that puts you as low to the ground as possible. You can buy some deadlift slippers, they don't cost much and are mostly legal at meets.

Squats - ideally you want to lift in either a squat shoe or a heeled shoe.

Image

The benefit of squat shoes are that they have a wooden heel, this serves two purposes: a) the heel raises you slightly higher and opens your hips through the movement, slightly increasing your felxibility (great if you have tight hips and/or calves b) The wooden heels means you don't get any loss of power from when you start driving back up. With a normal rubber soled shoe you lose power on the ascent as the force is compressed into the rubber, therefore this translates into a loss of power (small I know, but you want all the advantage you can get). You might as well put yourself in the strongest position from the start :)


I was hoping you'd have some advice/knowledge to share on this topic. :) Definitely didn't even know that there was such a thing as deadlift slippers, just knew there were compression socks, so I'll be adding those to my list, too. Seems like there's a lot I don't know about in terms of "equipment."

The first point you made about increasing flexibility is something I didn't know but am extremely pleased to know. After doing some research I found out that Chucks are bad for knee travel so that was my main reason for wanting to find something more appropriate but, as someone with tight hips, too, the fact that squat shoes help with that pretty much solidifies my decision to pick up those Adidas in the near future. Thank you for your input!

I haven't lifted barefoot since the beginning of October when I joined my gym. However, there's no "explicit" rule against it so maybe I'll try out barefoot deads this week to see how they feel - even if it's just for my warm ups since I might not be inclined to do so with heavy weight just yet.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:32 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
veggiesasquatch wrote:
Mini beat me to recommending slippers there :) agree on every point he made:..

You may find my blog from yday amusing, I didn't at the time ;)


Was about to check your log actually.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:54 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
03.09.12
5/3/1: Cycle One, Week Two, Day Two
The Triumvirate Template Test

NUTRITION

60/146/220
New macros don’t go into affect until tomorrow since the decision to bump wasn’t solidified early enough in the day.

PROLOGUE
The first thing I thought when I woke up was “I want to go squat.” So I did.

SESSION
Warm-up: 2 minutes hill walking, 4% incline, 4mph, stretching, extremely light leg extensions

Squat
65x5
95x5
115x3
130x3
145x10 (PR)
Squats are feeling 100x better than they were three weeks ago. Not going to lie, I definitely attribute this to the 10x5 BBB squats from last week.

Back raises
35x10x5
These are coming along nicely – the weight increase didn’t feel like much of anything.

Leg press
180x10x2
90x15x2
This, I think, is the only template that suggests these as an assistance lift for squats. I considered SLDL but, since I also opted to do back raises, I figured hitting my quads/hamstrings was more important. However, I’m not sure if I’d choose these as my main assistance lift if I do pick this template.

Hanging bent leg raises

10x5
Slow and controlled. My core and back are definitely my weakest areas.

Dumbbell side bends
35x12
30x15
A bit tender from Sunday’s conditioning session so I cut these short. Not a big deal since I’ll be hitting them again on Thursday.

AFTERWARD

After the gym and lunch, I discovered that it is nearly impossible for me to find jeans to accommodate my disproportionate body. I’ve always had a tiny waist that transitions rather abruptly into a pretty wide set of hips – something my mother, to this day, finds hilarious given the fact that I do not give, pardon my French, a flying fuck about an “hourglass shape” – and when you pair this with thighs that grow thicker by the week and unnecessarily big calves, well, let’s just say it makes someone who already hates shopping hate shopping any more.
However, since all the pants I currently own no longer fit quite right because of the aforementioned, I knew it had to be done. After forty-five minutes of trying on, literally, 14 different pairs of pants in Plato’s Closet, I finally found a pair that I found acceptable – some Levi 511s.
The funny thing about this is, when I was Cardio Kid, I owned a pair of 511s and they were baggy on me despite being the “skinny” cut – my legs were that damn shrimpy looking from all the running. The pair I bought on Monday, however, look like appropriately fitted straight-legs. Thank you, squats and deadlifts, thank you.
We’ll see how long these fit, though, since the visible changes in my quads and hamstrings are more noticeable than any other area in my body. I am more than okay with this even if it means that owning pants that “fit” will never happen again. There is a reason sweatpants were invented.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:38 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 pm
Posts: 876
Location: England
Whenever you post a sizeable blog it always contains something I ve recently had to do myself, so if I comment a lot you know why lol

I'm jean hunting tomorrow, my current 30"waist ones  now pinch but my quads are makin it impossible to bet my phone & wallet in my pockets & I refuse to have a man bag...

If you don't mind the input i'd really recommend pairing squats with either stiff leg deads of good mornings. you're getting serious moneys worth with either of these but I guess it comes down to how your back is. That's why programmed assistance is great, you could start as light as you want to help your body adapt/nail form while still making gains.  You could in reality go with triumvirate but still use the programmed assistance on either of those assistances. My lower body days are pretty simple but it's always big work I hit :)

FYI my backs ok but my quads feeling disgusting today 

_________________
"Don't fall for that crap that people are peddling on the message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your shit in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesn't matter" Jim Wendler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:10 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
I've recently discovered the awesome problem of trying to fit your keys, phone, and wallet into your pockets - quads tend to make this difficult.

I'm building my back up with the raises to start doing good mornings with the bar. I don't see leg presses as part of my programming regardless of the template I choose and I'm leaning towards pairing squats with GMs/deadlifts with front squats to focus on my weaker points.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:33 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 pm
Posts: 876
Location: England
Exactly why I went with those exact lifts :)

_________________
"Don't fall for that crap that people are peddling on the message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your shit in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesn't matter" Jim Wendler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:33 pm 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
Our similarities are uncanny.

It really is crazy how "simple" 5/3/1 is but how much more intensely it makes you look at yourself and your program, really makes you pay attention to what works for you and why it works.

My foam roller came in the mail today (right fast shipping considering I placed the order on Monday) and since I want to make sure I'm using it right, I started looking for videos of exercises for it. Of course, Elitefts has some good ones, though, this one for squats I found to be exceptionally helpful:


_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:08 pm 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 pm
Posts: 876
Location: England
I went with pairing those four as I want to (as you said) build my hamstring & lower back muscles up more to aid with my sciatica. That's why reverse hypers are also great on a ghr frame, they take the weight off the lower back so you get to control it better, those along with ghr are helping but I know it's something that's always has/will bother me. I go back & forth in my head over switching from conventional deads to sumos but I'll hold off as long as I can. My back only really ever hurts when I sit down, but it's slowly getting there, very slowly. That's why I basically had to start from the ground up on squats & deads after it started hindering me after moving, I'm almost only just touching intermediate type weight. But I'm not a hero about it, I'll be back pulling higher again in the coming cycles.

The next couple of days I ve planned to do loads of mobility work, those vids are good seen them all.

I can't agree more about 5/3/1 making you actually think why you're doing a,b & c... After the back injury I went to hack squats & I was banging out for reps (a-t-g)  550lb so when I started squatting again I thought I could pick up where I left off, WRONG. That's what got me really into the 'science' of wanting to be big & strong, not just big.

The view of training for performance over a look will sever you well & is the mentality you luckily already have. Let's not lie though we love our cloths getting tighter ;)

Now all I need to do is bombard you with Wendlers dislike for counting macros & we will be truly male/female versions of one another ;) or vice versa..on that I read the zone diet today, boring lol I'll stick to I know what works for me :) pizza tonight :D

_________________
"Don't fall for that crap that people are peddling on the message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your shit in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesn't matter" Jim Wendler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:13 pm 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
I have no idea why my gym doesn't have GHR frame - we only have the one for back raises. Well, that's not true - I know we don't have one because I lift at a commercial gym dominated by people who are into cardio/curls. I already decided once my contract goes up, I'm finding a gym that's geared toward strength training, if not powerlifting specifically. Plus, I've always trained solo and I'd be interested to see how finding someone or a group of people to train with would be.

The things that really hold my squats/deads back are my hip flexors, Osgood-Schlatter, and my weak core so that's why I'm bumping up the mobility and flexibility work, getting knee sleeves/squat shoes - it's ridiculous to think that I'm just now realizing that taking care of these things, instead of ignoring or "pushing through" them, is going to make stronger. I guess everyone starts somewhere.

I've never pulled sumo before and I wonder how that'd change my deads - it's my lower back that's the weakest as my upper back's been coming along pretty nicely the last few months from the rows and chins.

While injuries and mistakes suck, I think how you handle them and rebound from them really says a lot about a person's character and I commend you for having the diligence, patience, and willingness to grow and learn from it instead of giving up or making the situation worse. Your progress has been phenomenal and I know that you know slow and steady is the best way to improve - your squat/dead numbers in another six months to a year are going to be insane.

I don't know if i'll ever give up counting macros - I've found tracking them to be really interesting, mostly because I think it's really cool to see how different breakdowns affect different things (like long-term vs. short-term energy, holding water weight, losing weight, etc.) and makes me more attentive to what kind of foods "work" for me without being obsessive over food (don't measure my food, don't care about hitting exact numbers, don't care if I go over one day). I suppose it's the equivalent of a hobby for nutrition nerds. Haha.

Damn. Now I want pizza. Maybe I'll do that after conditioning today.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:52 pm 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 pm
Posts: 876
Location: England
You can still do ghr work, All it takes is hooking your feet under something & lowering yourself down until you give way & drop. Then you can explode back up by pulling your glutes & hamstrings. Have a look on the tube I'm sure there will be examples. My gym is very commercial to, Loads of cross trainers ect & the owners now pushing spin classes. To his credit though he puts his money into the equipment, All machines he has are hammer strength so top quality. A decline, incline & two flat benches for presses. Loads of adjustable benches in front of the mirrors but only 1 power rack & a rack. Luckily it's all oly bars to. Pre loaded mini barbell racks ect so in all & for how much it costs its great. I have no idea why ghr are hard to find...

Thanks again for the kind words, We may bro down a lot but I'm fine with that haha I think you're pretty awesome with how you actually listen to people but also do the leg work & educate yourself. Unlike the moron who messaged me on fb basically saying he wanted help to begin training but couldn't be bothered to sit & research so thought it would be easier to just ask me. My reply was "nice start" that was it lol In reality I'd of liked to of chalked up & clapped in his face.

Sumos take weight off the lower back for sure but your glutes, hams ect take the extra work load. I wouldn't be overly bothered if I had to pull this way if my back dictates it...But I hope all the work & slow 5/3/1 will move me along. I will send you a deadlifting ebook if you want it? Did you like the pic I emailed you last week?

As for macros, Once your numbers get serious you'll just eat. That's partly why bbb challenge is where I'm heading in a few weeks, Be interesting to see if the revamped vegetarian version I have made up (the meal plan) works. With that I'm just starting with usual portions & see if my appetite grows with the program... Mass moves mass ;)


I'm going to bench to trap them tomorrow, You must of heard of them if you're into hardcore?

_________________
"Don't fall for that crap that people are peddling on the message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your shit in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesn't matter" Jim Wendler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:03 pm 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
My laptop bit the dust so I have to post from my phone - expect a pretty hefty update sometime tomorrow.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:06 pm 
Offline
Elephant
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:06 pm
Posts: 2025
Location: Lee's Summit,MO
Ouch! I hate when stuff bites the dust

_________________
I do because I can. I can because I want to. I want to because you said I couldn't.

I don't make excuses... I make results

If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:48 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
TRIUMVIRATE TEMPLATE TEST

03.22.12
Cycle One, Week Three, Day Three


NUTRITION

58/140/200

SESSION
Foam rolling: 10 minutes
Hill sprints: 11 minutes - 30 seconds on, 45 off
Hill walking: 10 minutes - 10% incline, 4mph
Jumping rope: 10 minutes

03.22.12
Cycle One, Week Three, Day Four


NUTRITION

58/160/210

SESSION
Warm-up: Foam rolling, stretching, light leg curls.

Deadlifts
75x5
105x5
135x3
155x3
175x10
The first pull at 155 felt so fucking heavy that, for an instant, I thought I was only going to get my required reps in at 175. I took an extended rest between sets to prowl around the gym, nodding my head to some Nails, and then proceeded to beast through the last set. Felt awesome.

Hanging leg raises
10x5

Front squat
70x10x2
65x10x2
60x10

03.23.12
Cycle One, Week Three, Day Five


NUTRITION

55/163/215

SESSION
Warm-up: Elliptical, jumping rope, chin-ups.

Dumbbell OHP
15x5x2
These should have been 20s but someone else was using them to do curls.

Barbell OHP
45x3
50x3
55x11 (PR)
For the first two sets I used a false-grip, which ended up feeling much more natural than I anticipated. Should have stuck with it for the 55 as "thumbs over" felt less stable than the previous sets. Overall, though, these went better than I expected since I wasn't feeling it at all.

Chin-ups
10x5
First two were assisted with different weights/grips; last three were all rack chins.

Dips
10x5
Various assisted weights in between sets of chins and face pulls.

Face pulls
70x10
70x15x2
70x10
I was going to do rows but the dumbbells I wanted were in use. These will do.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:34 pm 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 pm
Posts: 876
Location: England
Awesome work all round mate! The easy weeks are fun to bang in some reps, then the fun is trying to better them with heavier weights (if you're feeling it)

What template is the ohp day? Hope you get a new note book sorted 

_________________
"Don't fall for that crap that people are peddling on the message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your shit in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesn't matter" Jim Wendler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Project Heavygan: Eat Plates To Move Plates
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:29 am 
Offline
Gorilla
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am
Posts: 501
Location: Cleveland, OH
OHP is the Triumvirate with the added face pulls - supposed to be just three lifts but threw them in because chins were feeling weak. The dumbbell stuff is because the bar's 45 and my lower sets are 35/40.

Still no word on fixing my computer but I'll be using my old lady's when she's not pounding out grad school work until I can get everything sorted out.

_________________
"When in doubt, squat and run hills." - Jim Wendler

IRON MNTN // LOG


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 428 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  



{ ASACP_CREDITS }
{ ASACP_CREDITS }
{ ASACP_CREDITS } Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group