Electric Rider wrote:
They said I would get banned asap for making those statements. I'm like.. WTF??? That's way extreme and uncalled for.. that to me isn't a diet or philosophy that's good for you, that's a religion akin to a cult. I didn't sign up to join no religion.
Veganism is not the plant-based diet which based on your musings here you appear to think it is.
People following a plant-based diet are doing that out of ego - their choices are about what is good for them and their health. A person following a plant based diet may use some 'vegan' justifications for their diet - but more often a person on a plant-based diet will easily switch back to eating meat if they felt it would do them good or do them no harm. True, some plant based eaters do eventually switch to vegan.
Veganism is not ego-based. It is on the other side of the morality scale and leans toward altruism. (ego=concern for self, altruism=concern for others). I'm not saying ego is bad, but nor is altruism. For survival of a species there needs to be a balance and they both are part of our experience here on earth.
Veganism is a philosophy and a value system about minimizing harm to other beings. Vegans are against the exploitation of non-human animals for human-animal pleasure and gain. Vegans can feel the physical and emotional pain of the animal when they see or hear people talking about eating animals (otherwise known as empathy). It has been proven that many species feel empathy. Personally, even if you told me that I would die at an earlier age from being vegan, I would still think it is worth it since my life would STILL be a million times better than the animals who suffer through horrendous living conditions, are inflicted with a short life of degradation, abuse and torture, which is then topped off with slaughter.
Would you go to a 'peaceful parenting' site and discuss how you spank your own children and wash out their mouths with soap when they swear? And if you did, would you really expect a favorable response?
Feel free to ask questions to satisfy your curiousity here, but I would hope that in your discussions you are respectful of the values on this vegan
I think based on what you are looking for you may be do better consulting a vegetarian rather than vegan site. Though you should be aware that vegetarians are against eating fish (ie. they are against killing animals for food).
"To create suffering without recognizing it - this is the essence of unconscious living; this is being totally in the grip of the ego." Elkhart Tolle