MattCarrPT wrote:
The PhytoAthlete wrote:
I agree with what Dylan said, for the most part supplements aren't needed. The main concern for vegans is B-12.
I don't mean to start an argument, but this is simply not true. Some of the reasons for supplementing are as follows;
The Earth we farm with isn't nutritious as it used to be due to Toxins – ie pesticides, bad fats, air pollution, additives, heavy metals, drugs, sugar, salt, preservatives
World isn't a 'natural' environment anymore - toxins from cars & other vehicles
“Europe has 72% less minerals in the soil than 100yrs ago” – 1992 Earth Summit Meeting
An average Letteuce is sprayed 11 times with pesticides
Pear is sprayed 13 times
Apples – 16 times.
The company we use for our Multi-Vits is 100% organic, basically theres nothing bad in then.
I do take a multivitamin, so I can't say I am totally against supplements. But some minerals/vitamins in multivitamins have been found to cause health problems. Did you read the links to the page I provided? It goes over which can be dangerous.
You mentioned multivitamins as a supplement you were looking for in a vegan form. The one I suggested is a vegan multivitamin.
There is a lot of the things you mention in the environment etc that aren't good for us, I agree. How much mineral/vitamins can counteract these I am not sure of, certainly they should at least help combat some of these negative effects. Has there been any studies to show if/how much vitamins/minerals will counteract these problems you mention?
I was not aware of the mineral content of soil in Europe. That is not good to hear and you would assume if the soil has 72% less minerals in it than the vegetables/fruit grown in that soil would also have less minerals. But has there been any studies to see if this is the case or at what percentage the minerals drop in the plants compared to the soil? In other words, does a 72% drop in soil content correspond to a 72% drop in the plant content?
Most of what I eat is grown in North, Central or South America, so I don't know how the soil measures up in these places.
But assuming your plant foods have the normal amounts of nutrients in them, one should be able to get all the nutrients they need from food alone, except B-12 for vegans and possibly Vit. D if you aren't in the sun much.
I err on the side of caution and do take the multivitamin I suggested earlier, which is a vegan product. So I didn't intend for my previous post to be a slam on supplements, only that they aren't absolutely needed for survival if someone is eating properly, but are good for optimal health or for people who don't eat healthy.
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