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Re: i quit

#16 Postby stcalico » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:39 am

Well.. nuts aren't actually the foundation of my diet either ... just thought of those first so wrote them down first. ;)
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Re: i quit

#17 Postby DukeD » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:50 am

I'm going to also say a large part of your lack of success still may be rooted in training and training history. Being a vegan I'll definitely say nutrition is important, but don't get too hung up on what you're eating as long as you're getting a decent amount of calories from whole plant foods (and I also rarely have soy).

Below is something from the Plant Based Nutrition Course from eCornell. I think think this really sums up bodybuilding/powerlifting success. This quotes was further referencing the notion that consuming large amounts of protein will magically yield muscle mass.

"How does muscle mass get built up? It’s partly genetics, which we have no control over. It’s partly hormones, which we can manipulate with drugs such as anabolic steroids and growth hormone. And it’s partly the frequency at which the muscle is loaded, such as weight"
Copyright 2009, T. Colin Campbell Foundation and TILS

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Re: i quit

#18 Postby greenprotein » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:38 pm


I eat pretty much what stcalico has been saying, and not so much in the way of nuts due to Dr Esselstyn's plant based wholefood diet advice which in turn was based from the Dr T Colin Campbell's China Study...DukeD mentioning Dr Campbell :)

So it's quite a heady mix to: a) muscle build being a Vegan b) deal with lowish Thyroid (cut out soya) c) lower body fat d)keep enough energy food in the diet for my workouts e) try and not have too many oily foods in my diet (and no added oil) re trying Dr Esselstyn's diet

...but it' all good fun :shock: :lol:

Perhaps someone can add something about, too much protein in the diet having adverse affects or is that just animal protein :?: I'm sure I read about this whilst I was doing a mass read on Dr T C Campbell and Dr Esselstyn...can't quite remember though...it was more than just bone loss/Vit D? mass in meat eaters it was also to do with causing other diseases if too much protein is consumed e.g. anything above 15% of daily intake...I'll have to see if I can find out about it again... :?:

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