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 Post subject: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:20 am 
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First of all, here's my introduction post : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28816
Basically i'm 6'3" 153lbs and want to gain muscle.

I'm trying to start simple, and add foods as I go. One thing though, I don't cook. I just... don't. I can microwave and use a toaster like a pro, and will use the stove occasionally. That is about the extent of it :lol:

So these are the foods that my diet currently consists of:

100% Whole Wheat Bread
Quaker Oatmeal
Shredded Wheat cereal
Almond milk
Orange Juice
Cranberry Juice
Hashbrowns
Chocolate Soy Milk
CLIFF Builder Protein Bar
Peanut Butter
RITZ Crackers
Earth Balance
Boca Chik'n Nuggets
Amy's DF Mac n Cheeze
Morningstar Riblets
Boca Burger
Vega Performance Protein
Vega Complete Whole Food Health Optimizer
Flax Oil
Banana
Apple
Frozen Broccoli
Carrots
Hummus

Things I am going to add are brown rice, quinoa, berries, and almonds. The more the merrier, so if you have more foods that fit my profile, by all means I'd love to hear.

And now, here is one sample day. Is there anything missing? Is there too much of something? I have a different meal plan depending on if I work, workout, etc., and below is my eating when I have both with calories and macro-nutrients calculated:

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Workout + Work Day
Serving Size/Name/Calories/Fat/Protein/Carbs
2 slices   Toast       400   25   8   36
1 bowl   Shredded Wheat w/ Almond Milk     260   3.5   7   56
1 patty   Hashbrown       140   8   2   15
1 cup    Orange Juice   110   0   2   27
1 shake   Protein Shake w/ Water       120   0.6   25   6
BREAKFAST TOTAL: 1030 calories   37.1 fat   44 protein    140 carbs


1 slice   Peanut Butter Bread   290   17.5   12   25
1 banana   BaNaNa   110   0   1   30
1 cup   Cranberry Juice   140   0   0   34
SNACK/PREWORKOUT TOTAL:   540 calories    17.5 fat   13 protein   89 carbs


1 shake   Protein Shake w/ Milk & Flax Seed Oil   225   8.1   26   14
1 entrée   amy's df mac n cheeze   520   22   8   72
1 slice   Peanut Butter Bread   290   17.5   12   25
LUNCH/POSTWORKOUT TOTAL:      1035 calories    47.6 fat   46 protein   111 carbs


1 banana   BaNaNa   110   0   1   30
1 bar   Cliff Builders   270   8   20   30
2 scoops   Vega CWFHO(meal replacement)   260   7   26   23
AT WORK TOTAL:      640 calories    15 fat   47 protein   83 carbs


5 crackers   Crackers w/ Peanut Butter   270   20   9   17
1 shake   Protein Shake w/ Water   120   0.6   25   6
NIGHT TOTAL:      390   20.6   34   23
               
DAY TOTAL:      3635 calories   137.8 fat   184 protein   446 carbs


Thanks for any help. It's just my diet is where i'm least comfortable at this point.

My main concerns are my once-daily intake of processed foods, my fats (though my metabolism is crazy good and i have a highly active job and i'm trying to make gains, so maybe they are good), and this lingering hunch that something is missing.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:52 am 
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Need more fruits and veggies! They have lots of nutrients etc. that you need to keep you going strong.

You mention you don't like to cook... but stir fries are a good and simple way to start cooking and an excellent/yummy way to add veggies and proteins (various beans or fake meats) to your meals. And if your are really opposed to cooking, then maybe at least try throwing some spinach into your shakes - you don't really taste it. I buy Europe's Best spinach.. it has little individual size squares of frozen spinach so I nuke one or two of those for 10 secs and can then chop it up and throw it into stir fries or shakes.

A substitute for crackers and pb could be refried beans and salsa with tortilla chips. No cooking involved and salsa has some good veggies in it.

The number of protein shakes/bars you have in one day seems like too much to me.. I only have about one a week, but I'm definitely not into hard core building so not sure if that is normal for body builders. Just seems like too much process food imo. Perhaps there are other thoughts on that.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:18 pm 
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stcalico wrote:
Need more fruits and veggies! They have lots of nutrients etc. that you need to keep you going strong.

You mention you don't like to cook... but stir fries are a good and simple way to start cooking and an excellent/yummy way to add veggies and proteins (various beans or fake meats) to your meals. And if your are really opposed to cooking, then maybe at least try throwing some spinach into your shakes - you don't really taste it. I buy Europe's Best spinach.. it has little individual size squares of frozen spinach so I nuke one or two of those for 10 secs and can then chop it up and throw it into stir fries or shakes.

A substitute for crackers and pb could be refried beans and salsa with tortilla chips. No cooking involved and salsa has some good veggies in it.

The number of protein shakes/bars you have in one day seems like too much to me.. I only have about one a week, but I'm definitely not into hard core building so not sure if that is normal for body builders. Just seems like too much process food imo. Perhaps there are other thoughts on that.


Thanks for the input.

Fruits will be easy for me. Oddly enough, I just don't like that many vegetables. Broccoli, carrots, peas, corn, and asparagus, are the only vegetables I like. I'll be sure to buy more of those, as well as more fruit varieties.

The more I think about it, the more I think I have to get over myself when it comes to cooking. Stir-frys are my favorite things in the world to eat. I'm going to focus on one recipe at a time, and I'll start with a delicious/healthy brown rice stir fry with broccoli and carrots and a general tso type sauce. I can tolerate red onions in a stir fry as well. I'll start with that, and if I enjoy it, I'll learn some more recipes. baby steps :)

Tortilla chips and salsa, hmm... The only question is whether I'll be able to avoid eating the entire bag in one sitting :lol: Added to the grocery list for tomorrow nonetheless. Peanut butter crackers are gone.

When it comes to protein, I am completely confused. It's suggested I take anywhere from 1g/kg body weight (69g) to 3g/lbs body weight (like 450+). I'm sticking to what my brother has success with (also vegan, quite "gladiator-like" as he would like to say). 1-1.5g per pound body weight. The protein bar is more because I can't really eat at work, from 4PM to anywhere between 10PM-12AM. I bring a banana, protein bar, and meal replacement shake, every day I work. Since it's a highly active job, it's nice since I can have bite/drink whenever I have a second throughout the shift.

And yeah, the processed foods gotta go. Hopefully I'll start cooking stuff that actually tastes good and start replacing the frozen microwave meals with much healthier home-cooked meals.

Thanks so much for the help stcalico, I really appreciate it :)


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:40 pm 
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It seem like you have a good plan there for building muscle, I would just say incorporate a few servings of fruit and veg in the mix too. Which could be as as simple as following the above diet plan but replacing one meal with a green smoothie. :) And slowly build up your skills for cooking by trying one or two new recipes a week.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:58 pm 
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StevenC wrote:
It seem like you have a good plan there for building muscle, I would just say incorporate a few servings of fruit and veg in the mix too. Which could be as as simple as following the above diet plan but replacing one meal with a green smoothie. :) And slowly build up your skills for cooking by trying one or two new recipes a week.


i don't know how in the world i didn't think of a veggie smoothie! that sounds great, thanks for the tip.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:53 pm 
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you would probably like almond butter better than peanut.

Nuts and seeds (hemp, pumpkin, sunflower, etc) have lots of cals. That could help with gaining weight

As for veggies do you like cauliflower, sweet peppers, cucumbers, leafy greens like kale.

Sweet potato can go into the microwave.

quinoa is easy to make on the stove. Make it like rice. Nothing special


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:20 pm 
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Comingtocyberspace wrote:
you would probably like almond butter better than peanut.

Nuts and seeds (hemp, pumpkin, sunflower, etc) have lots of cals. That could help with gaining weight

As for veggies do you like cauliflower, sweet peppers, cucumbers, leafy greens like kale.

Sweet potato can go into the microwave.

quinoa is easy to make on the stove. Make it like rice. Nothing special


none of the above on those veggies, but i did buy a mixed baby salad that I'll force myself to eat, corn, peas, and asparagus. bought frozen mixed veggies and vegetable juice for a shake. about a metric ton of fruit: raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, bananas. Gonna mix up the fruit every time I go to the grocery store since i love essentially every fruit. seeds sound like a good addition, already added mixed nuts to my diet. got some quinoa, teriyaki vegetable stir fry i will be attempting tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get my diet right
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:33 pm 
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Already feeling 500% better about my diet.

Cooked pasta today that had 1 serving of vegetables, then the pasta sauce had 2 servings, was amazing. Been snacking on 1/2 cup of mixed fruits 2-3 times a day, banana pre-workout still, and made myself a nice big smoothie when I woke up (I think I'm going to make that a routine). Turned out I thoroughly enjoyed a bowl of spring mix salad with a small amount of balsamic vinaigrette, I think I'm going to give kale another try next time I go shopping, but regardless I'm going to make myself a big effin bowl of leafy greens every day I think.

Furthermore I signed up at myfitnesspal simply to track my calories/macro-nutrients... my dear god is it useful.

I'm really surprised how much I'm enjoying all this. Thanks to you guys :)


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