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high protein , low fat.... is it possible?

#1 Postby MuskelKatze » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:35 am

I'm trying to keep the protein rather high (130 grams) and the fat low (12 grams)... It IS possible but I'm relying on protein powder all the time.... tofu and tempeh are too high in fat! same goes , of course for nuts!

If I also want to keep my carbs moderate (lower that the protein), then it gets difficult...

I want to lose fat but no muscle and with these ratios my calories are about 1100...wich I guess it's ok for me since I'm just 5"2 and about 107 lbs....

I tryed soy protein isolate cos it has more protein and less carbs than pea protein but I got so bloated I looked pregnant! :oops: ... and couldn't almost sleep...

I don't want my wokouts to suffer and feel a bit tired...but maybe because of not sleeping enough...

Any ideas for high protein / low fat?

as for working out I try to workout 5 times a week, 1 hour cardio, and 1 hour (light) lifting... sometimes also 25 minutes core training...

I would appreciate your commentaries!

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#2 Postby The PhytoAthlete » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:58 pm

At 1100 calories a day and 130 grams of protein and 12 grams of fat, you are getting 520 calories from protein and 108 from fat, that puts your percentages at 47% protein and 10% fat. So I think you are already consuming a high protein low fat diet.

I personally think at 107 lbs. your protein intake is too high. I think 105 grams would be plenty and even little lower if you wanted. 10% fat for the exercising you are doing is low in my opinion, unless you are trying to lose fat for an upcoming bodybuilding meet.

If you lower your protein to 105 grams, that is 100 less calories from protein and puts you at 38% protein. I would make up that difference in the calories(100)with fat, which would be 11 more grams of fat a day, which would get your fat percentage to 19%.

Of course, percentages can vary depending on what you wanting to accomplish and what works best for you.

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#3 Postby Fallen_Horse » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:34 pm

I think with the amount of exercise you are doing, 1500 calories would be a much better daily total. Also, you are definitely getting enough protein at this point, so I would simply add a few hundred calories to your diet, mostly in the form of fat. Why are you so afraid of consuming fat in your diet?
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#4 Postby MuskelKatze » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:02 pm

Actually, based on the last days, what you guys say is much more realistic than what I intended....The thing is that last week I got quite good results and I think it is because of reducing fat (among other things)... anyway, this week my plan has a bit more fat and a bit less protein, let's see waht happens... If it doesn't work I would have to go back to last week's plan... tho it's really expensive!...

About the calories... with 1500 I don't lose any weight or fat for what I have observed :/ I wish I would....

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#5 Postby at2444 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:38 pm

I have been a vegan for about 2 months and recently began working out with a trainer. I am a 5'9'' female... He wants me to eat 1300 calories per day, 110 g of protein, 50 g of carbs, 25 g of fat. Is this healthy? At this point, I can't even imagine how I can do it - it seems to be very hard to stay under 50 g carbs while also getting enough protein from whole foods, and I have been taking protein powder. I am not sure he knows much about vegan diets, but apparently I don't either, and I am trying to figure out if I need to modify his suggestions or not. Any reactions or suggestions? Thanks!

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#6 Postby The PhytoAthlete » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:55 am

at2444 wrote:I have been a vegan for about 2 months and recently began working out with a trainer. I am a 5'9'' female... He wants me to eat 1300 calories per day, 110 g of protein, 50 g of carbs, 25 g of fat. Is this healthy? At this point, I can't even imagine how I can do it - it seems to be very hard to stay under 50 g carbs while also getting enough protein from whole foods, and I have been taking protein powder. I am not sure he knows much about vegan diets, but apparently I don't either, and I am trying to figure out if I need to modify his suggestions or not. Any reactions or suggestions? Thanks!


How much do you weigh?

The breakdown on your pro, carbs and fat does not come out to 1300 calories, only 865 calories. That can be figured by---protein and carbs equal roughly 4 calories per gram and fat is 9 calories per gram.

But regardless, yeah the 50g carbs seems very low.

This appears to be your first post here, welcome to the forum.

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Re: high protein , low fat.... is it possible?

#7 Postby at2444 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:59 pm

Thank you!

I weigh 170, so this is a weight loss plan while weight training...

As an example, yesterday I ate a banana before a worked out and had 1/2 cup black beans at lunch - that would be all of the carbs I would be allowed... I ended up with 150 carbs for the day, 41 g fat, 76 g protein, 1,243 calories. It seems that eating nuts is putting me over on fat and beans/fruit on carbs, but I am eating pretty much all whole foods. Today I am already at 67 carbs because I ate an apple for 20 carbs - the rest came mostly from my protein powder, kale, and beets...

Its seems like I can stay within the calories no problem by eating mostly whole foods, and I can probably get the fat down by reducing the nuts, but then I'm losing that protein (I'm not even close to the recommended 110 g protein with 2 scoops of Sunwarrior powder a day).

I would like to at least eat 2 pieces of fruit per day, but that will pretty much blow my carbs... I have not been eating any refined carbs - basically just brown rice and quinoa.

My recommended goals just don't feel right based on what I am eating - any thoughts?

Thanks!!

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#8 Postby VeganEssentials » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:18 pm

Eat one piece of fruit before training, one with your post-workout nutrition afterward. Two best times you'll be able to eat carbs (fuel for training, refueling afterward) if you're keeping them lower, so two pieces split over a few hours when they'll be put to the best use by your body shouldn't throw things off much.
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Re: high protein , low fat.... is it possible?

#9 Postby The PhytoAthlete » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:35 am

at2444 wrote:Thank you!

I weigh 170, so this is a weight loss plan while weight training...

As an example, yesterday I ate a banana before a worked out and had 1/2 cup black beans at lunch - that would be all of the carbs I would be allowed... I ended up with 150 carbs for the day, 41 g fat, 76 g protein, 1,243 calories. It seems that eating nuts is putting me over on fat and beans/fruit on carbs, but I am eating pretty much all whole foods. Today I am already at 67 carbs because I ate an apple for 20 carbs - the rest came mostly from my protein powder, kale, and beets...

Its seems like I can stay within the calories no problem by eating mostly whole foods, and I can probably get the fat down by reducing the nuts, but then I'm losing that protein (I'm not even close to the recommended 110 g protein with 2 scoops of Sunwarrior powder a day).

I would like to at least eat 2 pieces of fruit per day, but that will pretty much blow my carbs... I have not been eating any refined carbs - basically just brown rice and quinoa.

My recommended goals just don't feel right based on what I am eating - any thoughts?

Thanks!!


I don't think you need 110 grams of protein a day. The 70-80g range should be fine, like you got in your yesterday example above. In you above example, you were roughly at 50% carb, 25% fat and 25% protein.(fat is slightly higher than that). So if you want to reduce calories anymore, I would reduce the fat, which would probably mean reducing/eliminating the nuts in your case. I am a fan of nuts and they are good for you, but if you are wanting to reduce calories, in your case they are probably the best thing to eliminate and not worry about the less protein you will get without eating them because you don't need 110 grams of protein. You may not need the protein powders either, depending on where your protein intake is without them.

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Re: high protein , low fat.... is it possible?

#10 Postby at2444 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:25 am

Thanks for your feedback! I will give it a shot...

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#11 Postby MuskelKatze » Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:16 am

Hmmm... the lowest I could go on carbs was about 100... that seems to work too... but when I have about 150 then no weight loss or fat loss... :( ... the lowest I managed was 75 g (one day) and the day after I weighed 1 kilo more!!!! (that day I had a lot of fat 54 g.)...I don't know but maybe low carb is not for everybody...

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#12 Postby Wozza » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:31 pm

MuskelKatze wrote:the lowest I managed was 75 g (one day) and the day after I weighed 1 kilo more!!!! (that day I had a lot of fat 54 g.)...I don't know but maybe low carb is not for everybody...


Your body doesn't work like that. It will not add significant weight the day after eating more. It has to be sustained as your body fights very hard to keep the status quo.


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