Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness

Sounds like it might be worth a try. Let me know what you think of Mentzer's theories, I bought all of his books after trying one of his HIT programmes many years ago. I was convinced it wouldn't work as I had to drop from training 60-90mins 6 days a week down to 30-40mins just Mon/Wed/Fri.
In 10wks I put 4 inches on my chest, all of my lifts went up and I gained bodyweight whilst decreasing my bodyfat levels. Pretty cool, and heaps more time on my hands lol.

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i tried some of mike mentzers training a couple of years ago, didnt make much difference size wise but did make me much stronger. really short workouts but maximum intensity!

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“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Gandhi

Ran 3 miles in 25 minutes, one last run before I rest for a week. B day tomorrow then it's time for some Tofurky, pie, and R&R.

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I was going to lift but I feel I need to rest so I am beginning my week off today. Kind of feel bad about skipping my B day but I felt like if I lifted today I would be doing myself a great dis-service.

Started today off with spiced coffee, pancakes, and tofu scramble with mom.

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I've begun to dream again. I haven't dreamt in a few weeks, none that I can remember anyway. A sure sign my CNS needed a rest. Enjoying my rest VERY much.

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hey mate, im intrigued by your talking about cns getting damaged/fatigued, ive never really thought about it before!?

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"iam the strongest one! iam the viking!" - jon pall sigmarsson
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Gandhi

Your muscles do all the heavy lifting but your Central Nervous System or CNS is responsible for recruiting the muscle fibers to contract and perform movements. Think of your muscles like hydraulic pistons and your CNS as the computer that controls and regulates the pistons.

Often times your muscles are able to repair themselves through normal training but after a period of time systematic CNS fatigue can build up and you need to let it rest and heal to again function at full capacity.

As well as this your CNS regulates all of other 'hardware' and 'software' in your body so when your CNS gets burnt out you will notice that you might not be dreaming, or remembering your dreams as much, your sleep quality will be effected, you might get a bit grumpy or have mood swings, but the biggest sign is lack of drive and weakness. The CNS being burnt can also increase coritsol, a stress hormone that might lower your test levels a bit and cause you to put on fat.

From my research I think getting right to the edge of over training is very important as it might increase the capacity at which you can train and for how long before it burns out, almost like a muscle. But to a certain degree, neural capacity, like muscles, reach a genetic potential after some time and it might not do any good, that's for you to decided.

I am still very new to serious weightlifting even though I have been training since 2007 so it was kind of pig headed of me not to listen to Mini Forklift, I only knew I was over trained for sure when listened to MF and did some serious research and started analyzing how I was feeling. Through getting to know your body and how you function you can accurately assess whether you are getting into the realm of over training and determine how many weeks you can train for before it's time for a rest.

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thanks for that! wasnt expecting such a detailed reply its interesting, ive never really thought about the effect training can have on your nerves! suppose thats why your legs shake sometimes after a heavy workout etc.

thanks again

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"iam the strongest one! iam the viking!" - jon pall sigmarsson
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Gandhi

In terms of training and recovery, your CNS pretty much runs the body. This is why you see people getting burnt out from taking Pre-WO stimulants after taking them for a while, which can eventually lead to conditions such as adrenal fatigue.

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Training for my first 100 mile running race

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Mom has begun to replace her current hygiene products with products not tested on animals has been asking me to help her research and locate these products. She's also insisted that even in our financially deprived state, we spend a bit of extra money on soaps and detergents not tested on animals.

I am very proud of her for embracing this highly reduced cruelty life style and embracing a more peaceful life.

Still resting. I've been getting this bizarre DOMS all over my body in sporadic regions even though the last time I exercised that specific muscle was over 4 days ago and was not previously sore.

I am feeling more and more excellent each day.

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My rest week ends tomorrow. I feel super charged and energetic. I am going to blast out a 4 mile run tomorrow to prime my body for my return to weightlifting then hit the weights, hard, on Monday.

I think I may push my active training period back to 6 weeks or so and then rest, vs doing 7-8 weeks and resting. Just in the past 2 days my sleeping habits have returned to normal and I think I might have pushed myself a bit too far.

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Back at it.

Ran for 45 min at 4.25mi, did abs 4x15, obliques 63# 3x15, and hamstrings 98# 3x15. 1hr 5 min. Will probably scale runs back to 3 mi at 30 min for 45 min total on my every other 'off' day, I just had so much energy I had to GO.

I feel great!

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fully rested and ready to rock!

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"iam the strongest one! iam the viking!" - jon pall sigmarsson
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Gandhi

11-26-12 1hr 40 min
DB chest press 146# x8x8x8 > X
Pushups +30# x15x15x15 > 32.5#
Dips + 15# x12x12x12 > 17.5#
Chinups 27.5# x12x12x~12 > 30#
Tricep kickbacks 30.5 x15x15x15x15 > 33#
Bicep curls 40.5# x15x15x15x15 > 43#
Squats 123# x10x10x10x10 > 128#

Discovered using my bread maker is far less efficient and makes a far inferior product to baking it in a flat pan in the oven. It's VERY simple.
2c flour (225g)
2tsp baking powder
1/4 tsp salt
3/4c water
dash of olive oil (I use about 1 tsp)
throw it into a 8x9 pan and bake for 30 min at 350

If you're feeling fancy add some 'cheese' or olives or something. Can also be made into a sweet bread with 2 tsp stevia, 1 tbsp maple syrup, and some cranberries, apples(sauce), bananas, etc.

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Got your message ~ I have a powerlifting meet this weekend so I'll reply to you early next week if that's okay? No problems though, cheers MF.

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1st Place Raw Champs 2011, 2012 (3 raw records)
Training for my first 100 mile running race

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