I got a couple of PM's (from another forum) from a well known IFBB Pro BB'er and I thought the info was useful enough to post up here as well. Some of you might be able to take something from it
Evan Centopani wrote:
Hey MF-
Do you have any feelings/opinions on the use of systemic enzymes like Wobenzym? I used it years ago and felt great...all my aches and pains went away and I slept like the dead. The only thing I noticed at the time was that I felt really flat. Granted, I was following a keto diet at the time and flat wasn't too uncommon, but I felt even flatter than usual!
Not familiar with the product but from having a look it seems to be a combination of digestive enzymes? Makes perfect sense to me and actually a good thing for a BB'er to be taking seeing how they often tend to eat large meals at regular intervals. Products such as the one you mentioned would have a host of benefits including things like reducing inflammation, bloating and flatulence (common among the BB'ers I have worked with haha), indigestion, food allergies and/or intolerance and pancreatic insufficiency (the inability for the pancreas to secrete enough enzymes into the duodenum).
Wobenzym would help to allow the breakdown of food in the digestive tract as there are specific enzymes required to break to the food down into their component parts (carbohydrates/proteins/fats) for absorption and utilisation by the body. If your digestive system is working optimally then everything else should be improved as well, possibly why you might have been sleeping better whilst you were taking it.
Evan Centopani wrote:
Hey thanks Jim. From what I understand, these enzymes are supposed to be taken on an empty stomach are meant to work in the bloodstream rather than the digestive tract. I've heard them described as "a vacuum cleaner for your blood" Supposedly they can digest/eat up shit floating around in your blood and help your body get rid of it. I know they are HUGELY popular with people with cancer, immune disorders and thos wishing to reduce pain and inflammation. The product was originally produced in Germany by a company called Mucos Pharma but can be purchased in the US as Garden of Life has the rights to manufacture it here.
I guess what I would like to know (and I know this may sound meat headish) is would it be possible to decrease inflammation too much? To the point where it might interfere with muscle growth?
I can believe that about the enzymes cleaning up the blood. I really don't have an answer for your question regarding decreasing inflammation to the point of interfering with muscle growth.
My logic would suggest that it could be a possibility, as I'm thinking that major reductions in inflammation would have an impact on the white blood cells (they release phagocytes which consume the damaged cells ~ less inflammation would cause the phagocytosis to be reduced). As your WBC helps to run things like immunity/activation of T cells and helps control vasodilation of blood vessels (due to release of histamine) there may be a chance that the mechanisms and/or process of muscle growth could be affected.
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sounds like your having a good time, happy new year to you mate!
keep in touch about how it goes man, I'll be a paying customer when you get things off the ground! All the best dude and glad you had a fab new year! 