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 Post subject: Worried about carbs
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:35 pm 
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I am a personal trainer and bodybuilder that is not vegan. I understand fully the health benefits that veganism can bring.

My question is regarding carbs
I have a client that just had a baby and is trying to get in shape. Her weight is dropping steadily and jshe is making good prpgress. But now she is insisting on be vegan (moral decision). I understand her feelings, my only concern is the amount of carbs that she would be getting. I have gone through every nutrition program on this and other websites and it seems like the only way to get the needed protein requirements, is to consume foods that are also high in carbs. She wants her main sources of protein to be nuts, vegetables, etc.

I would really like to hear someone's opinion of this subject.

Thanks for your help


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 Post subject: Re: Worried about carbs
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:44 pm 
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Maybe trying searching here in the forum under key word trainer or similar things and then ask that question to one of the trainers here directly. Maybe on the home page there is also some where that lists some of the trainers here, I'm not sure but I think asking one of the trainers directly is your best bet.


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 Post subject: Re: Worried about carbs
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:53 am 
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Ripe fruit is the best carb source since it doesn't cause gut irritation/inflammation. Make sure its organic since higher consumption of conventional fruit equates to higher consumption of pesticides/organophosphate.

From my personal experience and my knowledge of biochemistry is that the best protein source is raw leafy greens since they contain high levels of Vitamin A that gets converted to retinoic acid in the body and retinoic acid naturally stimulates protein synthesis however large portions of raw leafy greens aren't ideal for a busy civilized human, since it is a hassle eating a large amount. Obviously including a good portion of raw leafy greens in the diet daily to fulfull Vitamin A requirements is beneficial for the gut and overall health of the body.

We know that plants are 90-95% water. Lets say we decide to consume 1 kilo of romaine lettuce; thats 900-950mL of water and the rest is nutrients. Less water she has to consume.

Other protein/fat sources are walnuts, pecans, other nuts and avocados. Vegetable fats from whole foods are harmless since they haven't been subjected to heating and oxygen. She can eat as many avocado's as she wants and I highly recommend them.

Then there is fermented protein sources like tempeh, natto, etc..

There is also raw protein powders like Sunwarrior and others I can't recall.

If you didn't know; processed tofu/vegan are the same as eating any type of processed food.

I don't recommend beans since they absorb bile. Bile contains cholesterol and androgen hormones that the body absorbs naturally with fats from the diet but when the fiber from the beans absorb the bile, the body needs to produce cholesterol and androgen hormones again from fats. Hence beans are excellent for weight loss but terrible for the body in the long run.
http://www.jlr.org/content/38/6/1120.abstract
http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/39984/PDF

My personal opinion about anyone who doesn't want to eat animal products is to eat fatty fruits for fats needed to produce hormones/neurons, get enough sunshine for Vitamin D and eat raw leafy greens for Vitamin A/K. Vitamin D is required to produce thyroid hormones which regulate the production of lipids, cholesterol and many other functions. Cholesterol is required to produce androgen hormones by the stimulation of retinoic acid(Vitamin A). On the contrary, those who consume animal products don't need Vitamin D levels to be high to produce androgen hormones since they consume dietary cholesterol.

I got carried away however this information should help anyone who would like to be healthy on a plant-based diet.

Is she taking a B12 supplement?


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 Post subject: Re: Worried about carbs
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:11 am 
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lepiante, that is amazing insight, thank you! when you say fatty fruits for fats, do you mean olive oil and coconut milk/oil?


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