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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:42 pm 
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i thought that you said that you didnt do isolation work!? :P

Hey Jonathan :)

Not quite ;) I said isolation exercises are inferior for building mass and strength :) It depends on the program i use. In this program, pre-contest, i wanted a bicep exercise for the following reasons:
- I need it at least psychologically for my arms ;)
- I need my arms to be in top-shape, as i think they are my weak point. I'm running low on calories at the moment, so any muscle not used is prone to atrophy.
- And i wanted an exercise more on that day.

About the abs: i don't think crunches and such are really isolation exercises. Okay, the machine is, but that exercise is completely new to me. The machine has the advantage that i can raise the load, therefore it's in this program.


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it would be cool if after your contest you gave the strength work a proper bash again (refering to you wishing you did more on VF)! you gotta use those monster pecs and back muscles to give us some heavy benching and straight leg deads! you are only 5kg off 500kg i should remind you. if you made it, on the strength table there would be 6people with totals over 500kg and 16 with totals over 400kg :D

Actually i hope that in spite of the diet, i can improve my strength a little with this intense modified HST program. At day 12 i'll be doing 12 reps with 120kg or 122,5kg on the bench (if it works as planned...), after that, i might be able to push my PB a bit further ;)
Anyway, after the comp i plan to do a strength cycle again, and after that another, and another ;)
At the moment, i'm too far away to improve my total by other means than the bench, but i reckon it won't take too long until i can deadlift a reasonably heavy weight again ;) So the last word is not spoken yet :lol

Thanks for the comment :D

I'm really looking forward for the workouts the next days 8)

love and peace,
Daywalker
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12 reps with 120kg - you serious?! thats insane! that would put your 1rm at at least 160kg!

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No no, not in one set! 12 reps in total! Tomorrow i start with 100kg for 12 reps, probably i'll be doing two sets with 6 reps each. The key is to avoid muscle failure. Two days later i'll be benching 105kg, say, 5, 4, 3 reps. Then on saturday 110kg for maybe 4, 3, 3, 2 reps. You get the idea. It's modified HST.
The 120 will be heavy, so i'll probably end up doing 12 sets :lol:

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Day 9:

What a day! :shock:

The workout was ... unique :?
Ten days ago, i had sub-luxated both my shoulders :( I was afraid i wouldn't be able to bench press without luxating them again.

Bench press: Started with 20kg, the bar only. Went well, no pain, no snapping. 40kg, slight sting in the right shoulder. 60kg, slight sting in both shoulders. 80kg, terrible pain in both shoulders, though the weight felt very easy i had to fight for every rep. I almost quitted, but then i thought of the competition, and that the weight itself felt easy, it was only pain. Pain is only a feeling, but i was still afraid of the 100kg to snap my shoulders. So i did 100kg: 5, 4, 3 reps. Was very angry with me. I couldn't do other than ultra slow reps on the down-movement, then normal speed up. My shoulders burnt and i considered being smart after every rep, but then again, at least they didn't snap. :?
What made me even more angry that i was wearing my "Vegan Fitness Team" Shirt and then i was making sounds and face as if the few reps 100kg was heavy as hell :evil: But it was only the pain, damn.
I really was pissed and saw all my hopes for the competition floating down the gutter :( My shoulders were really uncomfortably hurting after the bench.

Next exercise, incline bench dumbell flies. I was anxious if i could do it without pain, and i could! :D No pain, nothing. If the shoulders don't get better, i'll have to replace the bench press by flies until the comp and afterwards heal my shoulders.

Dips:
As with the flies, i was afraid, but the dips worked well :-) But after the super slow bench, the 35kg strapped on felt quite heavy, so i did 4, 5, 1 reps :?

Barbell press:
This brought me down again. The empty bar for warm-up was okay, but then the 50kg literally stopped me. I did a clean but was completely unable to press it up. My shoulders just refused to press, i was paralyzed :( After some low kicks at the power cage and angry mutters to myself ( i kept thinking it's only the pain, it's nothing serious, my shoulders are okay) i tried again and managed 2 slow reps. I must have looked like i was being tortured while going for a one rep max :( Then i dropped the weight to 40kg and did 3 slow reps, but then it was over. Impossible to go on :(

Upright row:
Easy going, painless 10 reps with 40kg (2 extra reps to compensate the lacking reps in the press). So if anything else fails, i still can do dips, flies and upright row :)

Squats:
:) The best part of the workout. My knee didn't hurt :) (almost - after the agony of my shoulders it was nothing) so i did very easy 7 and 5 reps with 115kg for a 12 rep total. Could have done 12 in one set but didn't want to exaggerate, i just did slow and perfect form today.

Calves:
Standing machine: 110kg for 12 reps, 5 seconds loaded stretching after each rep. Then 30 seconds stretching.

Abs:
Crunches and lateral crunches and such stuff.


After the workout i was really in bad mood, as you can imagine. My shoulders were still hurting.

But THEN i drove to meet a gym owner i know, i had made an appointment with him to get his advice for the competition (he's a real pro coach). He was so enthusiastic and optimistic, he really cheered me up! He gave me tons of great advice! And he was overwhelmed by my shape :D 8) He agreed to study the posing routine with me, he and his wife (who is Ms. Universe by the way! ;) )
When i left his gym 90minutes later, i was completely turned around, optimistic and ready to kick ass at the contest 8) And now i even know how! :D
What a day, really!

Now i'm gonna buy a scale for weighing my food, and then i'll write a diet-log.

Have a great time, everybody,
love and peace,
Daywalker 8)

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Daywalker wrote:
willpeavy wrote:
I'm excited. I hope going up there works out

I'm sure it will!

Even though i don't post here (in the log-section) often, i still read your post. I think i'll also inculde what i ate in my log.

Have a great time,
love and peace,
Daywalker


I always chekc your training journal when you update too. It'll be good to see your food log on it!


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Day 9:

(i forgot to mention the usual warm-up: 10min on the stationary bike, and then some light sets at the beginning of every exercise).

Pull ups, 12 reps: +35kg; 4, 4, 4.
Barbell row, 12 reps: 95kg; 6, 6.
Deadlift (stiff legs), 12 reps: 135kg; 6, 6.
T-Bar, 8 reps: 80kg; 5, 3.
Z-Bar curls, 8 reps: 45kg; 5, 3*.
Barbell shrugs, 10 reps: 150kg; 5, 5.
Z-Bar pull-overs, 10 reps: 40kg; 10.
Calves, eated machine, 12 reps: 95kg, 12.
Ab-machine, 12 reps: 55kg, 12.

It was all easy except for the pull-ups, which felt quite heavy.

*Had to do 5, 3 instead of 8 because of shoulder pain, i didn't want to push that today :?


Thanks Will :)
Here, extra for you, what i ate today (without exact grams, i still need to buy a scale..):
After getting up: 1 apple, 1 pear. Half an hour later 1 kiwi. 45min later self-made muesli containing: spelt flakes, spelt crunch, cornflakes, raisins (few), sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, walnuts (few) and soymilk.
Cooked brown rice with pumpkin, red beans, tofu and soy. Two hours later the same.
Workout.
Pea-proteinshake (has also carbs and fatty acids in it, it's more like a high-protein meal replacement).
3 soy dogs.

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Day 10:

Same routine as tuesday again.

Bench press: Instead of increasing the weight to 105kg, i decided to try 102,5, which shouldn't feel different from 100 ;-) But my shoulders brought me to stop after two singles. I think i need to give the time to cure, and do dips and stuff instead :?
Flies: 12 reps* with 18kg.
Dips: 4, 3, 3, 2 reps with 40kg.
Barbell press: reduced the weight to 40kg so i was able to do 5 and 5 slow reps :)
Upright row: 8 and 4 reps* with 45kg.
Squats: comfortable 6 and 6 reps with 120kg.
Calves: Standing machine, 120kg for 6 and 6 reps, loaded stretching between each rep for 5, and between the sets for 30 seconds.
Abs: Side crunches mainly.

Diet:
1 apple.
Self-made muesli: Brown rice, spelt flakes, spelt crunch, cornflakes, raisins (few), sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, walnuts (few) and unsweetened soymilk.
(Workout.) 250ml (~one cup) soymilk.
Brown rice with pumpkin and tomatoes.
2 soy dogs.
1 soy dog and 1 cup of soymilk.
Now it's gonna be some peanuts ;) and later probably a salad.

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Day 11:

Pull-ups: 40kg for 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1 reps.
Barbell row: 100kg for 4, 4, 4 reps.
Deadlift (stiffed leg): 140kg for 4, 4, 4 reps.
T-Bar: 85kg for 4, 4 reps.
Z-Bar curls: 50kg for 4, 4 reps (i'm gonna replace that exercise next workout. It's no good for my shoulders, the only exercise in this workout that hurts them).
Barbell shrugs: 155kf for 4, 4, 2 reps.
Pull-overs: 45kg for 10 reps.
Calves (seated): 100kg for 5, 7 reps.
Abs machine: 60kg for 6, 6 reps.

I did short breaks between most sets (~60 seconds).


Day 12:
Replaced the barbell bench press by dumbell bench press, i wanted to see if that's better for my shoulders. Unfortunately, the heaviest dumbells are only 40,5kg. But for today, i did 31kg for 10 reps (easy) and decided to try the next heavier ones, 36,5kg. They were just a bit to heavy for my sulking shoulders, so i did 5 reps before i stopped.
Inclined bench dumbell flies: 22kg for 10 reps.
Dips: 45kg for 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1 reps. It was much heavier than i expected :( I did only singles to avoid too much exhaustion or muscle failure, and kept the breaks short.
Barbell press: Didn't increase the weight today, wanted to rest my shoulders a bit. 40kg for 5, 8 reps.
Upright row: 47,5kg for 6, 6 reps (i do 12 reps total instead of the planned 8).
Squats: 125kg for 3, 5, 4 reps. Easy, short breaks 8)
Calves, standing: 130kg for 6, 6 reps.
Abs: Crunches.

After the workout: Just a little Tiramisu to give me my strength back :P :roll:

The workouts have reached the state of getting heavy :) Can't wait until tomorrow, when it's back day again 8)

Cheers,
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Ahh, cool workot 8)

Day 13:

Pull-ups: 42,5kg for 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1 reps. (yes, that's 13 not 12 ;) Very short break, ~45 seconds, between the singles only 10. I wanted to keep the form strict, therefore i did singels in the end)
Barbell row: 105kg for 4, 4, 4 reps.
Deadlift (stiffed leg): 145kg for 4, 3, 5 reps.
T-Bar: 90kg for 3, 3, 2 reps.
Dumbell-curls on the inclined bench: Yes! I finally found th perfect biceps exercise to complete this routine 8) It stretches the bicep AND doesn't hurt the shoulder :) I did 12kg for 6, the 14,5kg for 8 reps. Next time it's gonna go up :D
Barbell shrugs: 160kg for 4, 3, 3 reps.
Pull-overs: 50kg for 5, 5 reps.
Calves (seated): 105kg for 5, 7 reps.
Abs machine: 65kg for 4, 4, 4 reps.

I did short breaks between most sets (~60 seconds, some slightly longer, some shorter.).

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Did i ever mention that i just love bodybuilding before? Yes? Oh, okay... :oops:

Day 14:

Dumbell bench press: 36.5kg for 7, 7 reps (increased reps for compensation of the light weight. 7 reps is still easy, but i'm glad that my shoulders are actually recovering inspite of the heavy training)
Inclined Flies: 7, 5 reps with 24kg.
Dips: 5 sets of 2 reps with 47,5 kg, ~40 seconds break.
Barbell press: 45kg for 6 and 5 reps.
Upright row: 50kg for 4, 4 reps.
Squats: 130kg for 4, 4, 4 reps.
Calves: Standing machine, 130kg for 6 and 6 reps, loaded stretching between each rep for 5, and between the sets for 30 seconds.
Abs: Crunches, side crunches mainly.

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Day 15 (if i still count correctly ... :roll: )

Pull-ups: 45kg for 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1 reps. Actually it's too heavy for me to use perfect form, therefore i think i won't increase again next workout (will be the last anyway). I calculated the weights based on my strength on pull ups with supinated grip, but pronated are harder as i know now...
Barbell row: 110kg for 3, 3, 3, 3 reps.
T-Bar: 95kg for 3, 3, 2 reps.
Deadlift (stiffed leg): 150kg for 2, 3, 4, 3 reps. I have to admit my grip strength was really limiting :oops:
Dumbell-curls on the inclined bench: 16kg for 8, then 18kg for 6 reps.
Barbell shrugs: 165kg for 2, 3, 3 reps.
Pull-overs: 55kg for 5, 5 reps. Quite heavy :roll: I've never done more than 40kg dumbell before and this is quite different.
Calves (seated): 110kg for 6, 6 reps. Actually a bit easy for the day. Next time gonna be 120kg.
Abs machine: 70kg for 3, 3, 3, 3 reps. (15-20 secs in between)

I did short breaks between most sets (~60 seconds, some slightly longer, some shorter.).
It's getting heavy! My next cycle is gonna be a bit different, but similar. Starting a bit lighter, ending as heavy, but with pull-ups supinated and barbell row pronated. Shrugs a bit lighter maybe. Calves heavier from the start.

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Deadlift (stiffed leg): 150kg for 2, 3, 4, 3 reps. I have to admit my grip strength was really limiting


well you know where you need work then :wink:

i have noticed that my forearms have grown nicely since doing the grippers, and that they are without a doubt the most dense muscle on my body (its almost like wood, even when cold).

i recommend just getting a couple of grippers, say the CoC#1 and 2, and working with those. obviously other brands will do the same job, but i have been very happy with mine, and they are quite good value.
i used to have probs with grip when my deadlift max was around 165kg, but then since grip training, it is virtually never an issue :D

you training routine looks excellent btw - not sure i could handle that volume though! lol!

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Day 16:

Dumbell bench press: 36.5kg for 8, 8 reps (increased reps for compensation of the light weight) .
Inclined Flies: 5, 5 reps with 26kg.
Dips: 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1 reps with 50kg. Uff :D (very short breaks here, around 20 to 45 seconds.
Barbell press: 45kg for 6 and 6 reps.
Upright row: 52,5kg for 4, 4 reps.
Squats: 135kg for 4, 4, 4 reps.
Calves: Standing machine, 140kg for 6 and 6 reps, loaded stretching between each rep for 5, and between the sets for 30 seconds.
Abs: Crunches, side crunches mainly.


Jonathan, you call that high volume? Hmhm, it depends :) But i guess it's working: maintaining mass while burning fat.
I can't afford grippers at the moment, i'm very short on cash. But someday sure. Until then, the lockout has got to do the job. And other barbell exercises.

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Day 17:

Last day of the cycle for split B, tomorrow one more time the chest/squat day.

Pull-ups: 45kg for 6x2 reps.
Barbell row: 115kg for 3, 3, 3, 3 reps.
T-Bar: 100kg for 3, 3, 2 reps.
Deadlift (stiffed leg): 155kg for 2, 3, 3, 2, 2 reps.
Dumbell-curls on the inclined bench: 18kg for 8, then 20kg for 3 reps.
Barbell shrugs: 170kg for 2, 2, 2, 2 reps.
Pull-overs: 60kg for 3, 3, 3 reps. Really heavy :D Felt completely different from the light work i'm used to in this exercise. The 60kg almost pulled me off the bench :lol:
Calves (seated): 120kg for 6, 6 reps.
Abs machine: 70kg for 3, 3, 3, 3 reps. (15-20 secs in between)

And i wore my cool "100% VEGAN" T-Shirt 8)


BUT THAT WAS NOT ALL!
Today i also had a FULL BODY SHAVE! :shock:
It took some time, and it feels strange :D It's especially interesting when putting on clothes afterwards ... :)
But it was a cool effect - i seemed to grow in front of my eyes as the hair came off. And get more shredded at the same time 8)

Maybe i'm exaggerating a little with my diet, i'm already in shape, but the contest is still a month off. I have to eat more in order to maintain my muscles :?

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Barbell shrugs: 170kg for 2, 2, 2, 2 reps.


Nice heavy shrugs! I love to feel that much weight pulling on my traps. :D

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It took some time, and it feels strange Very Happy It's especially interesting when putting on clothes afterwards ... Smile


Nice! Take a swim and feel the water gliding over your skin. It's a very unusual feeling for a man who is used to being hairy.


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