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You order a boca burger at a restaurant, are you concerned about the bread

I never eat restaurant bread.
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I demand the package to verify ingredients.
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I check the package once and them I'm satisfied.
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I ask the wait staff and trust their answer.
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Bread is usually vegan, so I don't worry too much about it.
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Who cares, I've got bigger things to worry about.
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How vegan are you?

#1 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:08 pm

So, this poll is just an example to get you thinking. How about that restaurant bread? I know enough vegans that I could find at least one to answer yes to every question. How about you? Personally, I'm somewhere between "ask the wait staff" and "bread is typically vegan, so I don't worry about it." I'm not saying that is the right answer any means, just being honest here.

For example, my kids wanted to go to Red Robin this week. It's a burger chain that offers veggie burgers too, they had been with there before with their vegetarian mom. They were really excited to find Boca Burgers on the menu, and that Daddy was going to have a burger too. I really didn't want to make an issue of the bread, probably vegan so I left it alone.

What about other small stuff? Any of you coffee fiends ever use the not-so-non-dairy-creamer when traveling or at work? Sodium caseinate is a minor ingredient, but still not vegan. I'm guilty on occassion. :oops:

I guess this is a confessional of sorts? I still own a pair of leather shoes and a couple pair of wool socks that I still use. They are very functional and will last for years. I will likely replace the shoes as soon as I can anyway, as I'm not really comfortable in animal skins. I'm less averse to the wool socks. :?

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#2 Postby Zack » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:24 pm

"bread is typically vegan, so I don't worry about it."

I don't really buy non-vegan food unless it's accidental. If it's offered to me, or an accident I don't really worry all that much about it.

Not too radical about it, but I do prevent buying it when I can.

I wear some leather skate shoes, but I bought them on closeout when the store was getting rid of them for good.
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#3 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:36 pm

Zack wrote:Not too radical about it, but I do prevent buying it when I can.


Yeah, I don't buy non-vegan stuff, and am a regular label reader, but I'm not very fanatic about it otherwise. I don't sweat bone-char sugar, though I choose to only buy oranic for what we use at home. Worrying too much about small stuff kept me from going vegan for quite a while. I think it's better to commit to veganism and do your best.

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#4 Postby veganmadre » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:37 pm

I openly admit that I'm going through an "apathetic yet hostile" stage. Maybe it isn't a stage but it feels like it for me because I notice myself transitioning from one stage to the next - and it's full circle from when I first became a vegetarian. I used to be so passionate, angry and proactive and after a while I settled into a more peaceable existance when I didn't feel the need to constantly judge everyone else for consuming animal products. Eventually, I found myself just going through the motions of veganism. Doing it because I conscientiously know it's "right". I find myself in that spot right now but I also find myself transitioning back towards a bit of my hostility. As I surround myself with more and more vegans, I find that I have no desire to associate with nonvegetarians.

I voted that I have "more important things to worry about". I can see where being militant serves a purpose. Choosing to not eat bread because it possibly contains an animal product doesn't seem all the productive to me. The biggest statement we can make is via money. If you are already at a restaurant and paying for a vegan burger, what difference does it make if you eat their bread? You are already supporting that restaurant. If you tow a hard line, I'd say, you probably shouldn't eat there at all - thus decreasing their sales and sending a messages. Of course, just not eating there doesn't send a message unless you follow-up and explain to management that they have lost your business due to the fact.

I don't know. I do the best I can. I only buy vegan food from the store. I typically visit restaurants that seriously cater to vegans and I don't ever order food specificially nonvegan - including food with eggs/dairy/meat...That said, if I get something that is accidentially "nonvegan", I don't just throw it away. I don't see how that helps any.

I don't buy leather, I don't eat honey and I just upgraded my hand-me-down wool coat to a 100% polyester one. I'm a conscientious vegan 99% of the time.
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#5 Postby andgbr » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:40 pm

i'm really lazy asking if something is vegan or not, so, instead of taking the risk or asking, i usually avoid buying it..

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#6 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:49 pm

andgbr wrote:i'm really lazy asking if something is vegan or not, so, instead of taking the risk or asking, i usually avoid buying it..


I think that's a very reasonable plan too. :D

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#7 Postby Odidnetne » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:52 pm

I just don't really eat bread...or out in restaurants.

It depends for me when I'm out. For instance, I went to a bagel shop yesterday in New Jersey where they make the bagels themselves, and I asked about it, but since they make it all with fresh ingredients, everything was good (I try to avoid HFCS and other things like that too, the reason I don't eat bread or any bagels that aren't made fresh).
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#8 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:57 pm

Odidnetne wrote:I just don't really eat bread...or out in restaurants.

It depends for me when I'm out. For instance, I went to a bagel shop yesterday in New Jersey where they make the bagels themselves, and I asked about it, but since they make it all with fresh ingredients, everything was good (I try to avoid HFCS and other things like that too, the reason I don't eat bread or any bagels that aren't made fresh).


Awesome! Our bread for home is either homemade or from the bakery two blocks up. They make everything right there, and no weird ingredients. All stuff that should be in bread, the only thing that mucks up most of them is honey. No worries though, the sour dough is vegan and they just last week started making whole wheat vegan sourdough, so now we're really set! 8)

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#9 Postby Odidnetne » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:59 pm

michaelhobson wrote:
Odidnetne wrote:I just don't really eat bread...or out in restaurants.

It depends for me when I'm out. For instance, I went to a bagel shop yesterday in New Jersey where they make the bagels themselves, and I asked about it, but since they make it all with fresh ingredients, everything was good (I try to avoid HFCS and other things like that too, the reason I don't eat bread or any bagels that aren't made fresh).


Awesome! Our bread for home is either homemade or from the bakery two blocks up. They make everything right there, and no weird ingredients. All stuff that should be in bread, the only thing that mucks up most of them is honey. No worries though, the sour dough is vegan and they just last week started making whole wheat vegan sourdough, so now we're really set! 8)


Aside from about 10 bagels, I haven't had bread since 2005, a piece of bread would probably put me in cardiac arrest though. ;)
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#10 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:11 pm

Odidnetne wrote:
side from about 10 bagels, I haven't had bread since 2005, a piece of bread would probably put me in cardiac arrest though. ;)[/quote]

:lol: That's cool. Of course the thread isn't really about bread. You could still tell us "how vegan are you?" Or not of course, if you don't want to. :)

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#11 Postby Odidnetne » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:14 pm

I like to be pretty strict, after working in kitchens for about 8 years all combined, animals products (in any form) pretty much disgust me.
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#12 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:18 pm

Odidnetne wrote:I like to be pretty strict, after working in kitchens for about 8 years all combined, animals products (in any form) pretty much disgust me.
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#13 Postby andgbr » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:36 pm

michaelhobson wrote:
andgbr wrote:i'm really lazy asking if something is vegan or not, so, instead of taking the risk or asking, i usually avoid buying it..


I think that's a very reasonable plan too. :D


that's what i do when i go out.. but if i go to a grocery store or anything like that, i always try to find out if it's vegan or not.. i read the label, go to their website and so on.. but for some reason i don't like doing that on restaurants.. that's a whole different thing.. :D

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#14 Postby michaelhobson » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:39 pm

andgbr wrote:
michaelhobson wrote:
andgbr wrote:i'm really lazy asking if something is vegan or not, so, instead of taking the risk or asking, i usually avoid buying it..


I think that's a very reasonable plan too. :D


that's what i do when i go out.. but if i go to a grocery store or anything like that, i always try to find out if it's vegan or not.. i read the label, go to their website and so on.. but for some reason i don't like doing that on restaurants.. that's a whole different thing.. :D


We tend to go to restaurants that cater to vegans. But, I also take my girls out to eat every week, during the work week. They live in a small town about 35 miles south of here, not so vegan friendly as Pittsburgh. :(

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#15 Postby Odidnetne » Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:40 pm

michaelhobson wrote:
andgbr wrote:
michaelhobson wrote:
andgbr wrote:i'm really lazy asking if something is vegan or not, so, instead of taking the risk or asking, i usually avoid buying it..


I think that's a very reasonable plan too. :D


that's what i do when i go out.. but if i go to a grocery store or anything like that, i always try to find out if it's vegan or not.. i read the label, go to their website and so on.. but for some reason i don't like doing that on restaurants.. that's a whole different thing.. :D


We tend to go to restaurants that cater to vegans. But, I also take my girls out to eat every week, during the work week. They live in a small town about 35 miles south of here, not so vegan friendly as Pittsburgh. :(


You tend to take a lot of people with you too to said restaurants. ;)
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