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Hi,all.Trying to intoduce myself here,but unsure if "new topic" was the correct way to go about it.

My name is Chris Phillips,and I am a composer living on Vashon Island,WA(near Seattle).

I do a good bit of walking,bodyweight exercises,and minimal free weights.

My nutrition is a mixture of information I have gathered from "Healing with Whole Foods","Paleo Diet for Athletes",Kathy Abascal's anti-inflammatory classes(toquietinflammation.com),and "Vegan Bodybuidling and Fitness".

Thanks for being here as a support network.

Looking forward to lively discussion.

peace,

Chris

yeah new topic is the right thing!

welcome buddy.

booo paleo diet

thanks cold fission.aside from the obvious meat issue,what else is booo about the Paleo diet?

thanks,

chris

welcome.

Welcome.

Welcome !

aside from the obvious meat issue,what else is booo about the Paleo diet?

thanks,

chris

Welcome! There are health benefits to limited carb consumption (or at least low GI eating), but on the whole, paleo dieting is bunk. Here are some good discussions -

http://www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21365&start=0

http://www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19491&start=0

First of all, the idea that there was anything resembling a single diet shared by all indigenous people is absurd. Those who lived by the sea ate more fish, those who lived inland ate more game, and wild berries. People in tropical locations ate a lot of sugary fruits. Starchy tubers (forbidden by the paleo diet) are a staple among the diets of several indigenous tribes today.

Even if you go further and say that we all originated from Africa and at one point must have had similar diets, how do you know when to stop? Is the ideal diet that of the first proto-human? The first ape?

Physical adaptations to diet happen rapidly. It took about a 1,000 years for humans to develop lactose tolerance (which is primarily found in Northern European Caucasians who have been the first and largest consumers of non-human milk). We've been growing grains for 12,000 years and there's soild evidence that we've been eating wild grains for over 100,000 years (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091217141312.htm) and even some evidence that we've been eating them for a million years.

The paleo diet can positively affect blood markers but without positively affecting the associated disease risks. For instance, Inuits on a traditional starch free, high omega 3 diet have elevated risk of heart disease and stroke depite low LDL and high HDL levels -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19800772

Search "inuits" or "masai" on pubmed and come to your own conclusion.

I would also recommend this blog - http://paleovegan.blogspot.com/

thanks

cp

I think if you try to eat as clean and as unprocessed (no animal products of course) as possible you're on the right track.

The question to ask is, "Does what I'm about to eat do my body any good?" Or something similar like "Does it help me accomplish my fitness goals?" Of course I'm not going to tell you I always do the right thing all the time. I'm human and have my weaknesses.

Welcome to the team! Great to have you here!