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Hilary wrote:

 

I will sign off from this thread with a cure for "highhorseness":

1 quart prune juice

1 cup psyllium husks

2 tbls mineral oil

1 cup diced plums

Place in blender and puree

Drink at least 3 glasses a day until blockage is removed

 

. . . and I still have a bridge for sale

 

Wow man, that is hilarious.No really.But im afriad you will never quite beat your raw toast comment.Priceless

 

DV wrote:

 

To all you guys who really get it, let me just say again that you all make my day!

 

Thank god the code is still undeciphered.

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Just wanted to add my two cents here...

 

While I agree medications are being over-prescribed and are often lowering a person's quality of life rather than improving it, this is not ALWAYS the case, maybe even not MOSTLY. My sister was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes 17 years ago (this is Type I diabetes, which means your pancreas no longer works...unlike Type II adult onset, which can often be treated with diet and exercise.) If she didn't take insulin (medication) she wouldn't be alive today. And you know what the "cure" or "treatment" was back in the day for Juvenile Diabetes? Rest, and fasting. And all of those people died after a few weeks (or months if they were lucky.)

 

Bottom line, there are many options out there...some work well for some people, and not for others. Just because you may have found something that works for you, doesn't mean you have the right to make judgements or preach about your findings. It does indeed just turn people off, and also makes it seem like you're not sharing your discoveries to add some information into the pot for consideration, but to puff your chest out and falsely stroke your own ego with your new-found "knowledge."

 

-Rage

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Listen, pals. There are no cures for cancer. Not even raw foods, not synthetic chemicals, no radiations. The «cure» is about removing the crap, what causes cancer, so the immune system can do his job. Ever heard about immune system? That's medecine. Putting drugs in the body is just toxins that the body needs to get rid of; nothing to help. People who get chemo or radiotherapy but continue to be exposed to the same physiologic or psychologic stress that caused the cancer will never get better. Other tumour will appear while or after the treatment. Forever until they change their habits. Modern medecine don't cure anything because it doesn't remove the cause. Drugs, surgery, etc only make the person live longer, like a zombie, just surviving. Raw foods don't cure, it just allows the body and immune system to function optimally. Cancer cells can't survive in an alkaline body, it needs an acidic environement to grow. That's pure logic and proven science.

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Jumping in the middle of thread here:

 

It all depends on the cancer/disease that has been bestowed upon a living system. If a DNA has been altered, then no amount of alkalinity in the body is going to repair the DNA that has mutated.

 

Reading some of the thread, I will just put in my advise that it is up to the person to make an informed choice. Knowledge of what you have, how you MAY have gotten it, and how it is manifested in your body. Environmental factors (which mainly is food in this circumstance) may or may not contribute to the body's return to health. It may be advantageous to take meds to help correct the disease, and then the use nutrition to support the meds and then keep at it to heal the damage done to the body from the meds afterwards (as you continue to live and survive).

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Listen, pals. There are no cures for cancer. Not even raw foods, not synthetic chemicals, no radiations. The «cure» is about removing the crap, what causes cancer, so the immune system can do his job. Ever heard about immune system? That's medecine. Putting drugs in the body is just toxins that the body needs to get rid of; nothing to help. People who get chemo or radiotherapy but continue to be exposed to the same physiologic or psychologic stress that caused the cancer will never get better. Other tumour will appear while or after the treatment. Forever until they change their habits. Modern medecine don't cure anything because it doesn't remove the cause. Drugs, surgery, etc only make the person live longer, like a zombie, just surviving. Raw foods don't cure, it just allows the body and immune system to function optimally. Cancer cells can't survive in an alkaline body, it needs an acidic environement to grow. That's pure logic and proven science.

 

And this explains how people who have been 100% raw still have gotten cancer how now?

 

Again, faulty logic. My bi-monthly eye injections of...you guessed it...MEDICINE, prevent the growth of new blood vessels that would otherwise render me 60-90% blind in, oh, maybe a year or two. Since starting treatment, my vision has gone from 20/40 to 20/15 - please explain how partaking in modern medicine has managed to do more harm than good if I can now read as well as before my condition took hold? Damaged retinal cells do NOT just grow back once f'ed up simply because one can put their body in the ideal state for healing, and that, my man, is fact despite what the raw healing gurus might want you to think. If someone told you tomorrow, either get something that will drastically reduce any further damage to your body IMMEDIATELY, or, gamble and hope that the compounding damage will maybe, possibly slow down on its own in time if you put your body in an optimal state (with no guarantees), which one makes more sense if you had to chose one? Better yet, who says you only have to choose one option alone? I already have lost about 10% of my left eye vision - there's nothing I can do about that. HOWEVER, in taking proper precautions, I can now prevent a great deal of damage by taking advantage of what medicine has to offer. It's not a cure, but it's like putting a tourniquet on a severed limb - you can halt the damage ASAP and prevent further loss, or, pray to your chosen deity that somehow being in an alkaline state will be a guaratee for miracle. One makes sense, the other does not, but a combination of both would be best, but if you haven't figured that out yet, I hope you ponder it a bit more. If you have the misfortune to be put into such a position one day where your vision or overall health can be lost in a matter of months and there are options that can help immediately, every day you ignore the possibility of options other than blind faith you might just cost yourself something you'll never get back.

 

And, for the record again, I am NOT slamming eating raw for health. Heck, I should be doing it more and getting away from more of the processed stuff I live off of. Even the most respected naturopathic ophthalmologist who treats people with my condition is a strong advocate for a mostly raw diet (I've done some phone consultations with him in the past). However, he still says that anyone not taking the treatments in that I have done is setting themselves up for early blindness regardless of whether or not they are partly or 100% raw. Here's a guy who has been on both the practicing clinical medical side as well as that of naturopathy and dietary treatment through raw eating, and he says, use every weapon in the arsenal to combat disease. Who am I going to listen to, someone who has been practicing in a specialized field for 20+ years who prefers NOT want to use traditional medicine any longer yet still advocates it when necessary, or the "gurus" who proclaim through half-assed "science" that going raw will halt and reverse damage on just about anything? It doesn't take much common sense to figure out which route is best.

 

IYM, if reading a few articles by self-proclaimed experts who have not been prior practicing medical specialists and haven't done any hands-on research themselves equates to "science", then I guess you'll believe anything as long as it's what you want to hear. Anyone who wants to gain a group of followers to make a few dollars or feel important can concoct their own theories based off of partial facts and call it truth, but it's only detrimental when the gullible fall for it. If you honestly believe that all medicine is bunk and that it can only do harm, then I really, truly do feel sorry for you falling for that whole ideology which rejects all else simply because it doesn't mesh with whichever raw guru-du-jour says is pure gold this month. Use EVERYTHING to combat that which is trying to break you down, otherwise, you're just living off faith, and I don't have enough of it to risk not being able to see my own reflection in the mirror simply because some people think that all medicine is bad.

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Gaia, you know that jumping into a thread with logic will only stir things up more!!!!

 

I'm not Gaia, but nevertheless, I apologize for my use of logic, DV. I promise, I'll never do it again in any thread regarding IYM's beliefs on the power of treating disease and healing. I mean, the opposing viewpoint doesn't seem to be logical, so why should I do anything but say that my way is the only way and I'll never accept anything else as a logical possibility?

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My bi-monthly eye injections of...you guessed it...MEDICINE,

 

Faulty logic! Have you even TRIED injecting... you guessed it... RAW FOODS into your eye? Uh? Ah? What about that, mister wise-guy!

 

But srsly, solid post, man. As ever.

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