Tarz Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Yeah Ash, I feel like a condemned man countin down his final hours whilst waitin for CG to get online and pass judgement on me......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarz Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I don't envy - in fact I pity - those poor unfortunates who will be prosecuted in a court of law by our very own Compash once she's practicing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesty leroux Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I don't envy - in fact I pity - those poor unfortunates who will be prosecuted in a court of law by our very own Compash once she's practicing..... Me too. CG is hardcore. No Mercy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Me too. CG is hardcore. No Mercy!!! Daadaadada, daadaadada, dadadadaaaaaa! (air guitar solo) Go CG, go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 (edited) I always have to put ethics first. But I totally understand the flavor and taste are a huge part of how we make our food choices, probably the biggest factor. If people weren't a slave to their tastebuds, more and more would give up sugar, cheese, and non-vegan foods that contain those items. I overreacted to your post Rob, and needlessly bit your head off. Or, as one sexy Brit puts it, "looked for offence when none was meant." I went back to your post to try and figure out what part exactly rubbed me the wrong way. It is the paragraph I quoted above. Even though it was probably unintentional or at least subconscious, it appears to suggest that I dont put ethics above taste and it compares me to the likes of non-vegans in that regard. Anyway, may I offer you your head back (if you dont mind the bite marks), along with an apology? tarz -- you just threw in your two cents to try and get me worked up so I can strap you to a chair and punish you hard again. But no strapping you to a chair as a form of punishment for you anymore -- you enjoyed the thought too much last time. Daywalker, Ash, Brian and Aaron: <3 Edited December 9, 2005 by compassionategirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljk11 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 I feel like such a shit disturber. All because I started a thread about a new favourite - look what's blown up against the fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Nothing has blown up against a fan. And it is perfectly ok to start any topic, any thread or idea. We have passionate people on here and we're not always going to agree 100% of the time, but we're all here for a lot of the same reasons. We all have some interest in veganism, some interest in sports, and some interest in being part of a community with others who share those interests. Choose your protein power and run with it -Robster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I overreacted to your post Rob, and needlessly bit your head off. Or, as one sexy Brit puts it, "looked for offence when none was meant." Anyway, may I offer you your head back (if you dont mind the bite marks), along with an apology? Thanks Nat, I didn't see that the first time. I don't ever mean any harm with what I write, but if I ever do, there will be no doubt about it. (some of my friends I hang out with can confirm that). Anyway, thanks for giving me my head back. R B -- with head intact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarz Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Rob, congratulations on being the first human to survive without your head for three days. It must of been quite an experience.... Incidentally where did your head go for those three days it wasn't attached to your neck?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Although I haven't actually tried either of the two products mentioned in this thread, based on the ingredients list it's obvious to me that FAR more thought went into the formulation of Vega than Pure Trim. The latter is just (sorry Compassionategirl--I know you are very partial to the product) basically a Clif Bar in liquid form. Realize that with Vega, Brendan has added two of the greatest superfoods in existence: Maca and Chlorella, both of which are noticeably disagreeable where taste and texture is concerned. It would take a magician to formulate a meal replacement with these two ingredients and make it taste like a slice of heaven--one is decidely chalky, the other tastes like seaweed. When I blend hemp, maca, flax and chlorella together and add it to juice or soymilk no amount of sweetener can make it taste like the greatest beverage on Earth--but I accept the taste, knowing that I'm ingesting copious levels of amino acids, phytosterols, omega-3s, chlorophyll, etc. The people at Pure Trim "know better". They given the public what it wants: a smooth, rich, tasting shake (which is most likely vegan by accident) by adding mediocre and 'people friendly' ingredients instead of those that pack a much greater nutritional punch. Pure Trim uses the predictable standby as far as sweetener is concerned: fructose, which while OK in modest amounts, is really not health promoting--certainly not to the extent that stevia is, which is what is used in Vega. Vendors have been getting away with using fructose for years, giving the public the false impression that, from a nutritional standpoint, it is leagues beyond sucrose--but it's not. In small amounts, associated with pectin and fiber in its naturally occuring state (fruit), well fine. As a refined product in higher doses, it leaves much to be desired. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 It would take a magician to formulate a meal replacement with these two ingredients and make it taste like a slice of heaven--one is decidely chalky, the other tastes like seaweed. When I blend hemp, maca, flax and chlorella together and add it to juice or soymilk no amount of sweetener can make it taste like the greatest beverage on Earth--My two cents. There must be some way to make a nutritional power house like Vega more palatable. The bars for example are much better. Why do the bars taste better than the shakes? Scientific explanation please. Also, Michael, I 100% agree with what you said about Pure Trim being vegan by accident. I addressed this point in a post above. As I noted earlier, Pure trim was not made with the goal of veganism in mind, and it isnt even marketted as vegan nor is it directed at a vegan market, nor is it even labelled as "suitable for vegans" or anything like that, which is further evidence that it isnt even marketted for vegans. The company probably doesnt even know what a vegan is and probably doesnt care. The veganism of the shake was indeed essentially "accidental", so you are absolutely correct in my opinion. But that doesnt change the fact though that it is vegan nevertheless and tastes good. I agree that Vega is nutritionally superior to Pure Trim, but Pure Trim is better than a soy or whey isolate powder. Would you agree? Also, is fructose carcinogenic in your opinion, like that aspertame and those other artificial sweeteners? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I might have said it before *cough* but i LOVE the taste of Vega! Can't understand you others don't, but hey, maybe i'm just gifted ;D As soon as i get rich i'm gonna order some Vega and get serious about bodybuilding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I agree that Vega is nutritionally superior to Pure Trim, but Pure Trim is better than a soy or whey isolate powder. Would you agree? Also, is fructose carcinogenic in your opinion, like that aspertame and those other artificial sweeteners? I replied that the vegan nature of Pure Trim was accidental based on what you indeed wrote prior--this seemed an astute observation on your part. I do think that the product is also better than an ordinary soy isolate powder (and certainly the whey version with its many health pitfalls!). Fructose is certainly not carcinogenic (at least not to my knowledge) and certainly preferable to aspartame, acefulsame-K and sucralose. It's just that the human body treats it more or less like sugar, i.e it will cause insulin spiking (not as much as sucrose) and will just as likely promote Candida as do all simple carbohydrates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 The Vega bars use agave nectar as the sweetener, that might make a difference in taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 The Vega bars use agave nectar as the sweetener, that might make a difference in taste Hmmm... just wondering whether it would be possible to make the sweetener in the shakes agave nector as well then, and whether doing so would make a huge difference in taste? Or is there a reason why the sweetener in the shakes has to be stevia? Just wondering... I know nothing about chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Fructose is certainly not carcinogenic (at least not to my knowledge) and certainly preferable to aspartame, acefulsame-K and sucralose. It's just that the human body treats it more or less like sugar, i.e it will cause insulin spiking (not as much as sucrose) and will just as likely promote Candida as do all simple carbohydrates. Thanks for the info. You should seriously consider pursuing a phD in food chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Compassionategirl, Thanks--nutritional biochemistry is a fascinating subject to me. Stevia is readily available in powdered/crystalline form. Agave nectar is a sort of vegan analogue to honey--that might pose problems when creating a meal replacement formula as a powder, but I'm not certain on this. I've stated this before, that xylitol would have been (to my taste buds, anyway) the better choice as sweetener. See my comments about xylitol (and the links I provided if you are further interested) here: viewtopic.php?t=1315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljk11 Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 So is stevia a good thing to use for a sweetener? I use liquid drops to add to things sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Here's a good article the nutritional benefits of stevia: http://reid_j.tripod.com/stevia.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljk11 Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks, michael.You are a true wealth of information. Is it true that (I've read this...) aspartame is chemically changed to formaldehyde at temps above 85 F.? Truly scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Is it true that (I've read this...) aspartame is chemically changed to formaldehyde at temps above 85 F.? Most assuredly: "It is concluded that aspartame consumption may constitute a hazard because of its contribution to the formation of formaldehyde adducts." [Life Sci. (scientific journal), Vol. 63, No. 5, pp. 337+, 1998] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarz Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Yep, Pure Trim tastes very good. It blends very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Are there any images of this amazing product - i really dunno what this is all about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlightlyBitchy Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 can someone post the nutritional stats for the pure trim? thanks much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compassionategirl Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 hmm.. dont have a packet with me right now but it is something like 21 grams of protein, 17 grams of carbs and 8 grams of fat, per serving (i.e. per one filling shake) or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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