Northstar Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I am up to 13 pullups and 16 dips. For the pullups should I add a weight belt or change to a wide grip, or just keep increasing the number? For the dips should I add a weight belt or just keep increasing too? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 It depends on you and your goals. If it were me, I would start adding weight. Some find it no problem to add reps. I suck at anything higher reps, so if that is the same case with you, add weight. If you are trying to get bigger, add weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 more weight means more respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 more weight means more respect People stare in awe when you chin with a 45lb plate or more strapped to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Horse Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Do they provide straps at your gym? We have to bring in our own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 Cool, Im going to add weight then. I have seen someone at my gym with a strap and just assumed it was the gyms, but maybe he brought it, I will check tonight when Im doin cardio and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 My gym has a couple belts, but I bought my own a long time ago. Grizzly makes a good one, rated for 350lbs. No animal giblets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 They do have one... I will try it out tomorrow and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 My gym has a couple belts, but I bought my own a long time ago. Grizzly makes a good one, rated for 350lbs. No animal giblets. Dude I love you. I think I'm going to buy it. I ordered from vegansportshop, they have oen but it broke when I added like 45 kg. Brian was really nice and sent me another one but I'm not sure if it will hold and I'm up to 55 kg dips and I have just started doing them again. Fuck this makes me siked. LOVE YOU!! They do have one... I will try it out tomorrow and report back. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 My gym has a couple belts, but I bought my own a long time ago. Grizzly makes a good one, rated for 350lbs. No animal giblets. Dude I love you. I think I'm going to buy it. I ordered from vegansportshop, they have oen but it broke when I added like 45 kg. Brian was really nice and sent me another one but I'm not sure if it will hold and I'm up to 55 kg dips and I have just started doing them again. Fuck this makes me siked. LOVE YOU!! No problem. Nice dipping weights, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 No problem. Nice dipping weights, BTW. Thanks dood, but I'm just getting started . I found a UK based shop that sells the grizzly belts, they say that the chain is good for 600 pounds . I'm waiting for shipping info from them, they also sell pea protein so I might buy some of that too. Awesome product it seems like, and grizzlys are damn cool. http://shimshonit.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/grizzly-roar.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 You're right, it is 600. I don't know where I got 350 from. Not like I'd ever dip more than 350 anyway, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couture547 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I am up to 13 pullups and 16 dips. For the pullups should I add a weight belt or change to a wide grip, or just keep increasing the number? For the dips should I add a weight belt or just keep increasing too? Thanks IF i was you I'd add whatever weight puts you down to the 5-10 rep range depending on goals. I'm usually in the 5-8 range. From my experience the best way to increase total reps of a certain exercise is staying low rep and building more total strength then at the end of that muscle group do higher rep body weight. I remember 5 years again i had a body weight fanatic friend who thought weights were a waste of time and they don't build "functional strength" he told me there was no way i could do 80 push ups because i only train low rep bench which doesn't carry over to push ups. And then i busted out 100 push ups never training over 10 reps on bench or doing any push ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 I am up to 13 pullups and 16 dips. For the pullups should I add a weight belt or change to a wide grip, or just keep increasing the number? For the dips should I add a weight belt or just keep increasing too? Thanks IF i was you I'd add whatever weight puts you down to the 5-10 rep range depending on goals. I'm usually in the 5-8 range. From my experience the best way to increase total reps of a certain exercise is staying low rep and building more total strength then at the end of that muscle group do higher rep body weight. I remember 5 years again i had a body weight fanatic friend who thought weights were a waste of time and they don't build "functional strength" he told me there was no way i could do 80 push ups because i only train low rep bench which doesn't carry over to push ups. And then i busted out 100 push ups never training over 10 reps on bench or doing any push ups. When someone says you don't train "functionally," you should just punch them in the face. Ask them how "functional" of a movement that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Haha, good one cubby. Well I gave it a go. Did 25 lb dips x 14 and 45 lb x 10.Pullups were a different story though, could only do 15 lbs 6 times, and had to switch to body weight for the second set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 My new signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 My new signature Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeganEssentials Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 My gym has a couple belts, but I bought my own a long time ago. Grizzly makes a good one, rated for 350lbs. No animal giblets. Dude I love you. I think I'm going to buy it. I ordered from vegansportshop, they have oen but it broke when I added like 45 kg. Brian was really nice and sent me another one but I'm not sure if it will hold and I'm up to 55 kg dips and I have just started doing them again. Fuck this makes me siked. LOVE YOU!! If that doesn't hold up for any reason, get one of these: http://www.pullum-sports.co.uk/strength-training-equipment/miscellaneous-strength/ironmind-the-de-rigeur-dipping-belt/prod_172.html If you break anything from IronMind, you deserve to have a massive bronze statue built in your honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couture547 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I am up to 13 pullups and 16 dips. For the pullups should I add a weight belt or change to a wide grip, or just keep increasing the number? For the dips should I add a weight belt or just keep increasing too? Thanks LOL Good one. Theres some truth about function vs. non functional exercises, but i find the term gets used too much usually to hype a certain kinda of training. Bottom line if someone is lifting heavy free weights they're strong. You don't have to be able to squat on a swiss ball lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Bottom line if someone is lifting heavy free weights they're strong. You don't have to be able to squat on a swiss ball lol Exactly. If someone can squat a shitload of weight, do you think they are going to have issues with stability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djshrew Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 "When someone says you don't train "functionally," you should just punch them in the face. Ask them how "functional" of a movement that was." That made my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medman Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Like everything else in diet and fitness, people take the "functional" thing too far. Free weights = functional. If you're literally only doing isolation exercises on machines and nothing else, then I'd agree that you could afford to train more functionally. If you're doing all or mostly free weights, you're plenty functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawberryriddick Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I am up to 13 pullups and 16 dips. For the pullups should I add a weight belt or change to a wide grip, or just keep increasing the number?As Cubby said, it depends on your goals. My goals are to increase strength and size, so I'd add weight. If you're trying to build endurance or more of a "cut" or just limit your mass (not everyone wants to be big), add more reps. Once you get to 25, I'd start adding a little weight, though. What caught my eye was you asking if you should change your grip. For me, I do underhand, overhand, neutral, overhand wide, and underhand wide. For each of these, I have a different amount that I can do, and I suggest that you do this as well. This will maximize the amount of back development your pull-ups will provide for you, and whether you're trying to add bulk or cut, that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'd second the recommendation for Ironmind belts. I'm using a Super Squats belt right now for my weighted pull ups & dips (plus obviously use it for squats too) & the thing is completely bombproof; guaranteed up to 3500lbs apparently I'm currently doing a 5/3/1 style routine for weighted pull ups & dips, & it seems to be working well based on the weight I've been adding & the reps I've been doing. Personally I don't place too much importance on doing loads of different grips for pulls/chins. My standard pull up grip is overhand with hands slightly wider than shoulder width; besides this the only other grip I use regularly is close grip underhand, plus sometimes neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Like everything else in diet and fitness, people take the "functional" thing too far. Free weights = functional. If you're literally only doing isolation exercises on machines and nothing else, then I'd agree that you could afford to train more functionally. If you're doing all or mostly free weights, you're plenty functional. Exactly. I have nothing against functional training, and my masters program is actually based heavily on it. For the average trainee, using free weights and doing compound movements is more than enough. If you are preparing for a sport, you may want to supplement your big movements with some more sport specific ones. That Iron Minds belt sounds like a beast. I may have to grab one if I destroy mine at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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