pkjane Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Is a ketogenic diet possible with vegan only products? I'll make d if it's not but if it is please tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegimator Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It is possible. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://veganstrength.users-board.com/diat-und-definition-f11/sinn-und-unsinn-von-proteinreicher-ernahrung-im-bodybuilding-t24.htm&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkjane Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 It is possible. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://veganstrength.users-board.com/diat-und-definition-f11/sinn-und-unsinn-von-proteinreicher-ernahrung-im-bodybuilding-t24.htm&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1 great thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegimator Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 You're welcome! I wish I had access to the lupin seed based milk/meat products that Floey does so I wouldn't have to rely so heavily on soy as a major protein source if I were to attempt the diet but I'm curious to hear how others make out with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Horse Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It's possible, but I doubt it's healthy in the long term, so watch yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkjane Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 It's possible, but I doubt it's healthy in the long term, so watch yourself! I only do it for six weeks starting in may, so I'm looking good for volleyball season. This will be my first time trying it vegan style. I am STOKED!!!!!!! and for no reason at all, a little dog in a jackethttp://smalldogarific.wordpress.com/files/2007/01/10781553_320x240.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slodki Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 be careful! i did a huge project on this as part of my undergrad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeganEssentials Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I've done low carb (50-100g/day) vegan diets, but not keto-style, though it is possible. Personally, I wouldn't be able to get past the amount of extra oils I'd likely need to take in, I remember the olden days before going vegan and gulping down tons of flaxseed oil on the diet. A taste I don't want to revisit any time soon. Best of success with it, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_Idaho Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 It's possible but not recommended. Go fruitarian for faster results;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slodki Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Do you have epilepsy? I am curious as to why you'd pursue this diet plan otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeganEssentials Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Keto diets done in the short-term can definitely work well for some people. I know that the vegan community has a big grudge against the "eat tons of meat and no carbs" -style keto diet stuff, but done vegan and for short periods of time, it's not likely to be any worry of anything unhealthy. Of course, I don't recommend anyone to do a drastically low carb diet for more than perhaps 1-2 months at a time without a break, unlike some in the past who used to try to live low-carb for years on end and paid the price with their health by failing to ever consider getting adequate nutrition in any way, shape or form. Some people, myself included, simply do not respond to high-carb, low to moderate protein fat loss diets. It just doesn't work, so some like myself seek low-carb plans that actually do what they're supposed to. I can either see near-zero change after 3 months of eating high carb with some caloric reduction and cardio added in, or I can cut the carbs drastically, do minimal cardio work and lose 10-14 lbs., so the choice is clear and easy for those whose body types are extremely resistant to fat loss with high carbohydrate intake. We're all different, so while I do envy those who can lose fat on a higher carbohydrate diet, I know it doesn't work for me. 20+ attempts over 15 years and all failures (until I figured out it was the carbs that screw me up), it's easy to see why I won't go that route again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vege Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 It's possible but not recommended. Go fruitarian for faster results;)I agree. I lost all my fat (15 kg) on high carbohydrate diets, first on macrobiotic (lots of grains) and then on 80/10/10 (only fruit). Besides, I feel great on high carb diet. And if I eat more fat, then I gain fat, and that is in last couple of months And I feel like shit, lazy and sleepyTo me keto diet looks pretty dangerous, too much work for kidney and liver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaB Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Keto diets done in the short-term can definitely work well for some people. I know that the vegan community has a big grudge against the "eat tons of meat and no carbs" -style keto diet stuff, but done vegan and for short periods of time, it's not likely to be any worry of anything unhealthy. Of course, I don't recommend anyone to do a drastically low carb diet for more than perhaps 1-2 months at a time without a break, unlike some in the past who used to try to live low-carb for years on end and paid the price with their health by failing to ever consider getting adequate nutrition in any way, shape or form. Some people, myself included, simply do not respond to high-carb, low to moderate protein fat loss diets. It just doesn't work, so some like myself seek low-carb plans that actually do what they're supposed to. I can either see near-zero change after 3 months of eating high carb with some caloric reduction and cardio added in, or I can cut the carbs drastically, do minimal cardio work and lose 10-14 lbs., so the choice is clear and easy for those whose body types are extremely resistant to fat loss with high carbohydrate intake. We're all different, so while I do envy those who can lose fat on a higher carbohydrate diet, I know it doesn't work for me. 20+ attempts over 15 years and all failures (until I figured out it was the carbs that screw me up), it's easy to see why I won't go that route again I think my body doesn't handle carbs well either. How do you eat realatively low carb as a vegan? Do you do a lot of fake meats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeganEssentials Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 You're correct, Lisa - lots of fake meat products that are higher in fat to keep things balanced for reduced carbohydrate intake. Viana products are great for it for my usual plan - around 550 calories per package, 40-50g protein and around 20-25g fat, almost all unsaturated with only around 8-12g carbs per pack. When consuming around 2600-2800 cal./day, two packs of their products over the course of the day really keep things in balance for a low-carb vegan diet and keep me feeling full between the shakes and veggies that I'll eat as well! Nobody who has zero pre-existing conditions to consider has blown their kidneys out doing a keto diet for a reasonable amount of time (as some tend to infer is actually a possibility), and a moderate carb diet approach such as what I do on occasion with around 75-100g/day of carbs certainly isn't putting anyone in massive danger, no matter what the naysayers will want to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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