kckas Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hi, I was wondering if it's possible to body build and train for a marathon at the same time? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 My hunch is that it's going to be difficult to gain mass and train for a marathon simultaneously. I'm interested to hear what others have to say because I would like to possibly train for a marathon 7 months from now and minimize any muscle loss that may occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Eat alot springs to mind. You're going to need to consume many calories if you want to increase your cardio and build muscle at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Totally possible. I use crossfit endurance and i am trainer. I'll help you out if your interested and have questions.. Your going to have to keep most of your run training anaerobic. http://www.crossfitendurance.com Best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckas Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Totally possible. I use crossfit endurance and i am trainer. I'll help you out if your interested and have questions.. Your going to have to keep most of your run training anaerobic. http://www.crossfitendurance.com Best wishes. I just looked at the website. I'm a bit confused though. Is it classes that teach you how to do crossfit? So you have to take x amount of classes in order to get the concept down? Or are there special machines at the facility that aren't normally in gyms? Ideally I'd like to train on my own at the gym I'm already a member of. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Totally possible. I use crossfit endurance and i am trainer. I'll help you out if your interested and have questions.. Your going to have to keep most of your run training anaerobic. http://www.crossfitendurance.com Best wishes. Mary I'm curious - does CF endurance advocate NO long runs while training for a full marathon? Just anaerobic sprints? Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 you can do crossfit anywhere so yes you can do it at your own gym. It is just a little harder there than at a cf gym but many people do it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 CFE doesn't do tradional periodic training where you gradually increase your mileage. So in that sense there is no long slow distance. Your not going to go out and run 23 miles a few weeks before your marathon like most training has you do. However it isn't all anaerobic sprints either. It is a mix of crossfit (both strength and metabolic conditioning wods - like you normally see in my training log) as well as running 3 - 4 times a week of sprints, time trials (for both distance and time), tempo runs, hill repeats. Your never going to go under 85% effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 CFE doesn't do tradional periodic training where you gradually increase your mileage. So in that sense there is no long slow distance. Your not going to go out and run 23 miles a few weeks before your marathon like most training has you do. However it isn't all anaerobic sprints either. It is a mix of crossfit (both strength and metabolic conditioning wods - like you normally see in my training log) as well as running 3 - 4 times a week of sprints, time trials (for both distance and time), tempo runs, hill repeats. Your never going to go under 85% effort. Thanks. I should look into it. I kind of want to ramp up my running again, but I'm hesitant to lose any strength gains I've made over the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckas Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks. I should look into it. I kind of want to ramp up my running again, but I'm hesitant to lose any strength gains I've made over the winter. Same here. MaryStella are there any crossfit books you can recommend? I'd like to get a better idea of what crossfit entails. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Personally I think it is great program. I use it so if you go through my log you will see what kind of training I am doing (although it has been modified a bit post surgery) I do triathlons as well as races in running, biking and swimming and yet I consider myself reasonably strong. Im deadlifting 230 and have decent weights numbers in other areas as well. everything you need to know about crossfit is on their website so www.crossfit.com and www.crossfitendurance.com. look under the FAQ and start here sections. Then ask me any questions you may have. They post a workout everyday on both sites. Most likely in the beginning you will have to scale the workout to your ability level. There are books out there about olympic lifting etc by people who do crssfit but they are not specific to crossfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Mary do you think there would be a benefit to doing CFE training for running but sticking to my 3x/week Stronglifts lifting program? What I'm thinking is keep my 3x/week lifting schedule and run 3x/week on non-lifting days, using CFE workouts. I'm not really interested in CF for strength training, as my current gym at work is not set up with the equipment I would need (even if I modified the WODs) and I'm not looking to join a different gym right now (the main benefit of my current one is it's free). (sorry for kind of hijacking your thread kckas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I think you should try it as see how it goes for you. Obviously my experience is with myself and others doing both cf and cfe but I don't think it would hurt to try it out. Strength movements are pretty universal. I am not sure what stronglifts protocols are. Basically I recommend you be pushing as much weight as you can for your lifts. (which i already think you are from what i see in the log) why i am saying this is i don't know if they do deloading portions or not in their programming. Feel free to tell me more about stronglifts and i would be will to work out a running schedule/workouts for you around it. it would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Cool! Will PM you either later today or this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckas Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 I signed up for a 5k and a half marathon. I figure this way it's not as taxing on my body and I'll be able to retain more muscle mass. Thank you for all your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 sounds great! let us know how you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Trendy Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 you need to run long to be competitive in marathon. i dont see how ZERO long runs will ever benefit you when it comes to distance races. if you want to finish a marathon, almost anyone who is strong willed can do it, you have enough time to walk 75% and still finish a marathon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarz Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 It's possible, it depends by what you mean by body-building. Obviously a freak-style physique would be very hard work indeed to get round 26.2 miles, whilst it would be more achievable for a body-builder with a more lean, natural musculature. You will still retain decent muscle so long as you continue to lift weights. Also, what do you mean by running a marathon? If it's just to get round in whatever time, as a one-off to say you've completed a marathon? Or do you intend to train hard, race seriously and competively, and in as fast a time as possible? The latter requires more commitment and miles and would have a greater impact on your bodybuilding results. The two can compliment each other (you won't be a skinny runner or a chunky bodybuilder) but you won't be a great a runner as you could be by lifting weights and you won't be as good a bodybuilder if you run.... I've been distance running for 17 years and weight lifting for 14 years and get half-decent results at both: http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Tarz77/027.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Tarz77/76624_455580087061_621512061_6006770_3905614_n1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryStella Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 that's some nice proof right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarz Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Thanks Mary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaSiren Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 that's some nice proof right there! amen sister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarz Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Thanks Seasiren too! P.S: I won the race, here's my collecting my prize (no trophy, just vouchers): http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Tarz77/100_1381.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckas Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Just a quick update... I'm about 2.5 weeks out from my half marathon and I can happily say that I've definitely gained muscle mass as well as thinned out during my training. I'm only lifting twice a week but I lift as heavy as I can and I'm still increasing my weight in some exercises. I'm also currently running about 30 miles a week. ETA: And I hope to finish my half in ~2 hours. I've only been seriously running since March so I think this is a good time to aim for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckas Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 I finished my first half marathon! My time was just under two hours. I've already signed up for the same race next year and I've signed up for another half which is less then two months away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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