sirdle Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I have recently discovered the squat. I love this exercise. But I think I might not be doing it right. I stand with my legs a little wider than shoulder width, toes pointed out at about a 30° angle. The bar rests across my upper back. I keep my back as straight as possible while squatting. I lower until my thighs are parallel with the floor, then rise. This keeps my knees above my toes. It looks similar to this http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBSquat.html except my feet are a little wider apart (for balance) and my toes rotated a little more to the outside. My problem is that my quads are not the limiting factor in how much I can lift. I feel that if I increase the weight too fast, I will injur my obliques or erector spniae or upper back. Also, when my thighs are near parallel, I can feel something shift on the outside of my left knee. It feels like a tendon or ligament moving across the bone. It doesn't hurt, but it is disconcerting. Are these signs that I don't have the form down correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I dont know about the movement at the knee, but don't worry about increasing the weight. So long as you ensure that you do not lose the arch in your lower back, the risk of injury is low.Otherwise your form sounds good Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronco Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I stand with my legs a little wider than shoulder width, toes pointed out at about a 30° angle. The bar rests across my upper back. I keep my back as straight as possible while squatting. I lower until my thighs are parallel with the floor, then rise. This keeps my knees above my toes. It looks similar to this http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBSquat.html except my feet are a little wider apart (for balance) and my toes rotated a little more to the outside.That sounds like correct form to me, but Im by no means an expert and judging from a written description is not easy. I personally believe in squattin deeper than parallel, but different people have different opinions on this. Make sure you are squatting to at least parallel though, this is not allways easy to judge by oneself and paralell is usually a bit deeper than one thinks .Also, very important is to before you start the decent breath in to the stomach and tighten the abs as much as possible. This doesnt mean you should try to hold in you stomach, rather the opposite. My problem is that my quads are not the limiting factor in how much I can lift. I feel that if I increase the weight too fast, I will injur my obliques or erector spniae or upper back.I believe this is very normal for people new to squatting. Just increase the weight slowly. Also, when my thighs are near parallel, I can feel something shift on the outside of my left knee. It feels like a tendon or ligament moving across the bone. It doesn't hurt, but it is disconcerting.No idea what this is Im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Do your squats in front of a mirror, and be sure that your knees are not buckling in. This can happen on the way up or the way down, and is a common form error that is often not addressed, but can put lateral stress on the knee joint (quite risky for injury, because the knees don't normally bend in that direction). As Jonathan mentioned, don't lose the natural arch in your lower back (lordotic curve). Brace your core before lowering to keep the lower back iin the right position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdle Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Thanks everyone, So tightening my abs will help keep my core braced and my back arched (not rounded forward) and this will reduce the risk of back injury? Kathryn --- I tried moving my feet closer together and that feels better. So I think there may have been some lateral stress on my knees even though they looked okay in the mirror. With my knees closer together, I can feel the lift in my quads much more. I can't dip as far, though, because of hip inflexibility. So I'll add some stretches for those muscles (iliopsoas?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannalift Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 don't squat like that. you are putting too much pressure on your knees and they will eventually give out. if you are going to squat like that, go all the way down butt to heels. if you are squatting to parallel, as you should be, you want to unlock your hips, push your butt back and let your knees come out. its best to have at least a moderately wide stance. here is some info on proper squat form. http://www.dieselcrew.com/articles/cleaningupthesquat.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I have recently discovered the squat. I love this exercise. But I think I might not be doing it right. I stand with my legs a little wider than shoulder width, toes pointed out at about a 30° angle. The bar rests across my upper back. I keep my back as straight as possible while squatting. I lower until my thighs are parallel with the floor, then rise. This keeps my knees above my toes. It looks similar to this http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBSquat.html except my feet are a little wider apart (for balance) and my toes rotated a little more to the outside. My problem is that my quads are not the limiting factor in how much I can lift. I feel that if I increase the weight too fast, I will injur my obliques or erector spniae or upper back. Also, when my thighs are near parallel, I can feel something shift on the outside of my left knee. It feels like a tendon or ligament moving across the bone. It doesn't hurt, but it is disconcerting. Are these signs that I don't have the form down correctly? Deep squats you want to go as deep as you can go without falling forward... Example is for me to squat I squat inbetween my legs with my toes pointing outward and I go down deep... Calves to Hams... or Butt to Ankles... either term works good enough lol... I wouldn't stop at parellel or above that puts way to much stress on the knees... and If someone says going deep will blow off your knees... thats total BS... 355 for a 20 repper on smith machine squats goind Butt to Ankles each and every rep which is 2-4 inches below parellel... and I have no KNEE PROBLEMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannalift Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Deep squats you want to go as deep as you can go without falling forward... Example is for me to squat I squat inbetween my legs with my toes pointing outward and I go down deep... Calves to Hams... or Butt to Ankles... either term works good enough lol... I wouldn't stop at parellel or above that puts way to much stress on the knees... and If someone says going deep will blow off your knees... thats total BS... 355 for a 20 repper on smith machine squats goind Butt to Ankles each and every rep which is 2-4 inches below parellel... and I have no KNEE PROBLEMS! if you squat to parallel correctly then the stress will be transferred to the hamstrings and not the knees. also, lets keep the discussion focused on barbell squats. smith machine squats are not even close to resembling a real barbell squat (parallel or full). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensless Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 If you aren't going to compete in powerlifting, the deeper squats are likely a better idea for you. Use whatever width stance is most comfortable for you. Regards, Sensless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirdle Posted April 5, 2006 Author Share Posted April 5, 2006 Thanks for your comments, everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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