jacklebodybuilder Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) http://vegan-bodybuilding-venture.tumblr.com/ Hey, i have been a gym rat for quite some time now as a ovo vegeterian, but i have recently read Roberts book and have begun vegan bodybuilding. I have put together a diet myself using a food budget of 25 pounds a week. I would like some feedback please. I will be keeping a log of my workouts, and any alterations to my diet. My current weight is 163 pounds and approx 20% bodyfat. i aim to gain 5 pounds a month up until new years when i will reassess my goals. here is my first attempt at a bulk nutrition programme: 100g oats, 200g alpro soy yogurt, 200ml vegan milk, agave, water 400ml 4xwholemeal slices, 100g peanut butter, 400ml water, fruit wholemeal tortillas, 160g refreied beans, half avocado, 400ml water 75g humus, tortilla chips, fruit, 400ml water or protein shake (hemp) protein shake (tsp wheat grass, 10g broccoli powder, 30g pea+ rice, 5g glutamine) 50g lentils, 100g quinoa, 100g broccoli, hemp oil, nutritional yeast, hemp protein, fruit, 400ml water pre-workout: one cup strong organic coffee FATS 116.6 CARBS 500.1 PROTEIN 200 KCAL 3334 remember to drink lots of water, because your insides are a swampy bog and a water shortage would affect the local frog population Edited September 18, 2014 by jacklebodybuilder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 for preworkout I am also having pineapple juice mixed with wheat grass and grape seed extract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esqinchi Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 That's a ton of food man, I think you'll put on some pounds (kilos?) easily if you are putting up equally big numbers. Are you sure your fats are that low given the refried beans, grape seed extract, avocado, and peanut butter? 100g of unsalted peanut butter, per calorieking.com has 50.4g fat (and 588 calories). Wouldn't fat intake be your main issue to watch over while bulking, as opposed to total caloric intake? Best of luck to you man in getting huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.O. Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 You started a training log, awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 That's a ton of food man, I think you'll put on some pounds (kilos?) easily if you are putting up equally big numbers. Are you sure your fats are that low given the refried beans, grape seed extract, avocado, and peanut butter? 100g of unsalted peanut butter, per calorieking.com has 50.4g fat (and 588 calories). Wouldn't fat intake be your main issue to watch over while bulking, as opposed to total caloric intake? Best of luck to you man in getting huge. im only using 250mg of grapeseed extract so i dont think there will be much fat in it, and my refried beans only have 0.4 g of fate per 100gs. When looking through Robert's book and suggested nutrition programs, he says to have a high intake of fats as 'the consumption of essential fat helps burn and speed up metabolism making fat burning more effecient'. He admits he's not a nutritionist though, so is this wrong? For next week i've altred my meal plan as im getting pretty sick of refreid beans and humus. And i've made it to slightly reduce carbs and fat, and also increase my vegetable and nutrient intake. 100g oats, 200g alpro soy yogurt, 200ml vegan milk, agave, juice (wheat grass, pineapple, grape seed extract) 4xwholemeal slices, 100g peanut butter, 400ml water (or protien shake) 210g tofu, 420g stir fry vegetables 100g raw lentil & Bean sprouts, 400ml water trek protein bar, protein shake (tsp wheat grass, 10g broccoli powder, 30g pea+ rice, 5g glutamine) 50g lentils, 100g quinoa, 100g broccoli, nutritional yeast, hemp protein, kale and broccoli juice (i use the left over stems) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 just completed a HIIT session. it was as follows: slow ten minute jog for warm then some quick stretching then i did this x6 80m sprint (as fast as i could manage)80m slow jog back30 seconds skipping rope I plan on increasing this to x10 by adding 2 extra of everything a week, then i might start adding some hills. what kind of HIIT training has anyone else used, and is this a decent session? would you make any alterations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esqinchi Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well I wrote a response, and again the site crashed when I hit send... Anyhow, short version: 1. Diet - Robert knows what he's talking about. Listen to him.2. HIIT is awesome. I do it all the time (recently almost exclusively from the Insanity DVDs).3. The above session is pretty good man, but I would add more variety of moves, so you can train more muscle groups than just legs; but yeah, jump rope is full body. Maybe pick 9 different exercises you can do for time, do them in giant sets (3 in a row) for a minute each, and rest for a minute between each set? Have you done the Insanity dvds? They are fun, ass kicking, and possibly a little too hard on the body - but you can go at your own pace, and pause when necessary. I might be a little older than you, and I think they are a bit hard on my knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cool thank you, definetly going to add some burpees and abs exercises. Also i looked for the insanity dvd, and wow its expensive might save up and give it a try in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esqinchi Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cool thank you, definetly going to add some burpees and abs exercises. Also i looked for the insanity dvd, and wow its expensive might save up and give it a try in the future. You can find full vids from the dvds here: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjgzMTMzMjcy.html Well, that's one of them, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have lost a pound after two weeks of following this??? Are my scales broken ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Back and Bicep Workout: pre workout: 500ml death wish organic coffee and a shake with maca and spirulina Bent over rows: warm up set, 10x45kg, 10x45kg, 10x45kg Close grip lat pull downs: warm up set, 10x49kg, 10x49kg, 10x49kg (drop set) seated row: 10x20kg, 10x20kg, 10x20kg (drop set) seated bicep curl: 10x12kg, 10x12kg, 10x12kg (drop set) post workout: cliff bar, pea+ rice protein shake and 5g glutamine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 New meal plan, adding an extra two meals on rest days and three extra on days I train. as I lost weight under previous meal plan. meal 1- 200gsoy yogurt, 100goats, 200mlsoy milk, 200mlpineapple juice, multivitamin meal 2- cliff bar, maca(only on training days), water meal 3- 4 slices of wholemeal toast, 100g peanut butter, hemp protein shake meal 4- pea and brown rice protein, 5g glutamine (TRAINING DAYS ONLY) meal 5- 200g stir fry vegetables, 50g white rice, 100g tofu, water meal 6- 200g stir fry vegetables, 50g white rice, 100g tofu, hemp protein shake meal 7 - 200g broccoli, 100g quinoa, hemp or coconut oil, juice(kale, broccoli, apple, ginger, lettuce) meal 8- 100g bean and lentil sprouts going to see how I manage this and how my body reacts in another two weeks and might double white rice I intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esqinchi Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Dude, if you lose weight on that meal plan up there I'll be amazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Made a wholefoods weight gain shake last night, felt like I'd swallowed a brick after about an hour. 1 whole can of beans, tablespoon peanut butter, soy proteins scoop, flax seeds, tsp hemp oil and a narna all blended together. Fuel for my chest workout yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_rossco Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Cool thank you, definetly going to add some burpees and abs exercises. Also i looked for the insanity dvd, and wow its expensive might save up and give it a try in the future. You can find full vids from the dvds here: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjgzMTMzMjcy.html Well, that's one of them, at least. Chris you fucking legend!! Gonna do some of those next week I reckon Yo jack, it's cool to see your journal bro, where are you from?You should try throwing in some deadlifts and squats into your training, huge mass gainers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 From south east london (:. Yeah I do lots of squats and dead lifts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_rossco Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Ah that's cool! Not too far from me eh! Good stuff bro, imo they're the most important exercises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceLee19401973 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 white rice? can you not get brown rice to fit in your budget its said to be more nutritious.keep up the good work though! im still researching nutrition/workout plans to fit my needs and circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.O. Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Nice to see newbies like Bruce Lee in here and contributing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceLee19401973 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 also forgot to add to save more time with things like rice and other grains for quick meals cook up a whole bag and then freeze zap in microwave for 5 minutes from frozen. also beans as well can be cooked in big batches and frozen. beats cooking it for 45 minutes everytime you want rice lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) so, i've been out for a while. The nutrition i was previously eating resulted in really bad digestion and sickness. My diet was extremely dense in protein, a lot of soy, fats and processed carbs. My body started reacting extreely adversly to the amounts of soy i was eating. Heres an example of what i was eating: breakfast- 100g oats, soy yogurt, soy protein powder scoopsnack- 4 slices wholewheatbread and 100g peanut butterlunch- two tortillas and a can of refreid beans and a big chunck of tofusnack- protein shake, glutamine, and two cliff barsdinner- loads of quInoa, brocolii and pea protein shake And man did i feel sick, and i was starting to get fat! Wish i'd listened to what some of you had said. Then to top it of i injured my kneck (partly due to moving house and sleeping in a unfamiliar bed), and started a new full time job, at which point i lost all motivation and didn't train for a month. A month forward and i was depressed and feeling like i was lacking any purpose in my life. I really hated my job working in a womans wear retail department. So i decided to retrain as a sports coach, which is what im studying now (: I've been reading a lot books about nutrition, for example 'the thrive diet by Brendan Brazier' and 'whole by dr collin campbel' to get a better grip on what and how i should be eating. with the knowledge from these books i decided would make a second attempt at putting on some muscle mass, this time using a whole foods diet, and a upper lowerbody split routine incorperating more calesthenics, and some HIIT. Frank Medrano has been a big inspiration for me as of late. When i started this new diet after a couple of weeks i was experiencing really bad acne, it was as if my skin was purging. Now my skin is clear and smooth and i feel fantastic. Another blip i came across with my diet was really poor sleep qaulity, which was bad considering thats when your body regenerates and strengthens. I was only getting 5 or 6 hours a night. Then I started to supplement with methylcobalamin, and wow i'm sleeping like a baby. I try to follow bredan braziers principles of eating one salald and a wholefoods smoothie everyday. Here's a typical day of eating now: Meal 1-green fruit protein smoothie4g creapure Meal 2-bowl of oats with organic soy milkvitamin or preworkout drink Meal 3-large green saladrice protein drink Meal 4-whole foods energy barpea protein and spirulina drink Meal 5-two buckwheat and rice crackerstablespoon of peanut buttergreen kale smoothie Meal 6-two sweet potatoes100g lentil curryspinach (if i get exra hungry ill usually just make another smoothie) I try to mix up my dinners everyweek, sometimes ill have-organic tofu in miso soup (my body is okay with smaller amouts of soy)-mashed organic potatos, veggies and seitan saussages-homemade spicy black bean burgers and loads of spinach After using this meal plan i feel much better, and my bodyfat is going down nicely- i am starting to see a six pack. Here's an example of my training programme: 1. Monday: Upper Body A Workout2. Tuesday: Lower Body A Workout3. Wednesday: off4. Thursday: Upper Body B Workout5. Friday: Lower Body B Workout6. Saturday: off7. Sunday: off (i have a track near me, so ill sometimes do some sets of 100m sprints on a off day or do some light jogging) UPPER BODY A1. Bench Press3 sets of 6-8 reps.2-3 minutes rest between sets.2. Rows3 sets of 6-8 reps.2-3 minutes rest between sets.3. Incline Dumbbell flys3 sets of 8-10 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.4. Lat Pull-Downs3 sets of 8-10 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.5. Lateral Raises2 sets of 10-12 reps.1 minute rest between sets.6. Triceps Press-Downs2 sets of 10-12 reps.1 minute rest between sets.7. Dumbbell Curls2 sets of 10-12 reps.1 minute rest between sets. LOWER BODY A Squats3 sets of 6-8 reps.2-3 minutes rest between sets.lunges3 sets of 8-10 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Calf Raises4 sets of 10-15reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Abs circuit UPPER BODY BPull-Ups3 sets of 6-8 reps.2-3 minutes rest between sets.Barbell Shoulder Press3 sets of 6-8 reps.2-3 minutes rest between sets.Bent over Row3 sets of 8-10 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Dips3 sets of 8-10 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Push ups2 sets of 10-15 reps.1 minute rest between sets.Barbell Curls2 sets of 10-12 reps.1 minute rest between sets.Dumbbell overhead extensions2 sets of 10-12 reps.1 minute rest between sets. LOWER BODY BRomanian Deadlifts3 sets of 6-8 reps.2-3 minutes rest between sets.Leg Press3 sets of 10-12 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Seated Leg Curls3 sets of 8-10 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Standing Calf Raises4 sets of 6-8 reps.1-2 minutes rest between sets.Abs (cable crunch, decline sit ups)3 sets of 8-15 reps.1 minute rest between sets. Edited March 24, 2015 by jacklebodybuilder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yesterdays workout1.squats 50kg x 8 for 4 sets100 reps with no weight (killer) 2.lunges15kgx 15 for 4 sets 3. standing calf raises50kgx 30 for 4 setsno weight for 100 reps 4. i did a ab circuit. leg raises, cruches, weighted sit ups, planks. did 4 rounds tryig to do each exercise to failure. By the fourth round im not doing many reps per exercise Todays workout 1. pull ups, 3 sets. (struggling to get any decent reps, it was 5,4,3. i will persist) 2. barbell shoulder press25kg x 8 for 2 sets 20kg x 8 for 2 sets 3. bent over barbell row50kg x 6 for 4 sets 4. bent over dumbel row23kgx 8 for 4 sets 5. tricep dips for 4 sets (again struggled to get decent reps with these, was 8,6,4,5) 6. hammer curls14kg x 6 for two sets12kg x 6 for two sets 7. incline push up, overhead extension super setsi used 20kg for the over head extensions and did push ups to failure for 4 sets. Post workout i had a wholefoods smoothie with pea ad rice protein, half a can of black beans, banana, berries and beetroot juice. My back is definetly my strongest body part, strangely find it is the fastest part to adapt and grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 today i got up nice and early for spin class. It's always nice to exercise in a group. we were doing HIIT. Felt like my legs were pumped with batery acid, but strangely really fun (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacklebodybuilder Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Just made a blander full fo smoothie and its tastes really good. Needed something to fill me with nutrients, carbs and protein before my upper body workout. Here’s what i put in it (its massive) big handful of spinach 3 speckled banans tablespoon maca 200g frozen raspberries tablespoon peanut defatted flour 2 scoops chocolate instant oats half a scop chocolate pea protein half a scoop sprouted rice protein 3g creapure teaspoon spirulina600ml water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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