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I didn't like that new Narnia at all. I liked the old BBC version much better.

I thought they actually downplayed the religious stuff too much. That damm liberal media again!

 

Jay? Is that you?

 

 

You didn't like it "at all"?

Well. Not much. Liam Neeson is one of my favorite actors but I thought he was miscast pretty bad. I guess the BBC beavers were extremely annoying and in this version they weren't so bad.

I guess they got around to having a war before I really cared at all about who won.

 

TBH when it comes to religion and personal issues they are slightly liberal generally and I thought that Narnia was an example of that. I didn't get the feel of Jesus arising from the dead at all in this movie version. In general Aslan didn't come across as this great moral guide but ultimately not someone to be messed with (like what God is supposed to be to the "god fearing" christian). In removing those religious connotations I thought they neutured his character. And he's pretty important to the movie. Also the acting of the Witch was not as good as in the BBC version. She was cool looking. Just couldn't play a mean witch very well.

 

Wow, you know, you're actually right...very perceptive of you . I have to agree; BUT , I'm not sure the book is all that explicit either, when read by a child. I think your analysis is from the perspective of an adult, who, not only knows what to expect; but also has the knowledge of what the morals of the story are, meaning, Lewis's religiosity. Was it written so children know that Aslan was specifically Jesus -- to specifically teach them the New Testament -- or just the supernatural hero? Obviously, it is to teach right and wrong, good and bad and instill a moral compass (though, warring children is disturbing); and the specifics of a religious angle more for the parents, teachers, adults, no?

At least part of Lewis's goal was to make children "ready" or whatever for christianity. Just to get them into the idea of this "guy" or "thing" that was all powerful, etc. It wasn't specifically written with Lewis clearly saying, 'Hey kids! This guy is playing Jesus.'

 

I like the idea of trying to do something of use with fantasy fiction beyond just short term entertainment. I don't think it really works though (at teaching people stuff). For example I really don't think there are any more christians in the world thanks to Narnia.

 

Since I first read this as a child, I think my expectations were/are different from what I may have expected, if I were seeing it for the first time now. I watched this as if I were a child Seriously. I wanted the fantasy, the talking animals, adventure, etc. I wanted to be taken back to the love I had for the story I had in my mind.

 

I find it fascinating that you would have liked it to be more religious, Jay . You hate having religion up in your face, so that surprises me. I'd like to know why you would want more.

Hmm. I suppose I would have been annoyed if christianity was just oozing off the screen.... Still it would have been a better movie I think.

 

I hated the BBC versions, by the way! UGH! They are horrible!

Aww. Except for those beavers it's not so bad.

 

...For Kung Fu, my favorite is Kung Fu Hustle. I can't be serious about my Kung Fu, so that one is really silly but still lots of long fight scenes with the CGI and all that.

 

I didn't like it, really. I think the tv series is more interesting to watch

You serious? Kung Fu Hustle with the guy who played the guitar as a weapon? And the woman that killed people by screaming? I was thinking to buy it so I could watch it over every now and then. I thought it was pretty funny.

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You didn't like it "at all"?

Well. Not much. Liam Neeson is one of my favorite actors but I thought he was miscast pretty bad. I guess the BBC beavers were extremely annoying and in this version they weren't so bad.

I guess they got around to having a war before I really cared at all about who won.

 

I like him too (ever seen "Dark Man"? Oldie; I liked it.)

I also noticed the voice I didn't like it either -- bad choice.

He was okay in Batman Begins. I wonder if he comes back in the next one, "Dark Knight"? I read that Heath Ledger (from Brokeback Mountain) will be playing Joker At least Bale comes back

 

 

 

You serious? Kung Fu Hustle with the guy who played the guitar as a weapon? And the woman that killed people by screaming? I was thinking to buy it so I could watch it over every now and then. I thought it was pretty funny.

 

I guess we all have those films we love to see over and over .

 

 

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Saw a Kinski film I hadn't before heard -- "Crawlspace" -- ONLY if you like bad (meaning really bad as in not even a good bad -- B movies ). Kinski is always watchable, and that IS the point, but I still wanted more from him.

 

"V for Vendetta" was a disappointment. In that genre, the past few years has produced lousy movies; best one, in my opinion, is still "Equilibrium".

 

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Saw, "INSIDE MAN, which is NOT my kind of movie; I don't like those kind of movies. A friend brought it by, and I wasn't anxious to see it; so it sat on my tv for over a week. Finally, I realized it had an awesome cast, and was directed by Spike Lee; so I watched it. Really good. Thumbs up!

I loved the directing (some really great shots, too), which is really what made it (the story) work, and the acting alone made it worth it.

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Yeah I really like Darkman. And Neeson in Les Miserables and Rob Roy.

 

....You mean Klas(sp) Kinski right? I once bought some b-movie just because he was in it. I haven't seen Crawlspace though.

 

I liked Vendetta but then it gets a lot just for having managed to get made, you know? I'd expect it to not get funded for being "too controversial" or whatever.

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Yeah I really like Darkman. And Neeson in Les Miserables and Rob Roy.

 

....You mean Klas(sp) Kinski right? I once bought some b-movie just because he was in it. I haven't seen Crawlspace though.

 

I liked Vendetta but then it gets a lot just for having managed to get made, you know? I'd expect it to not get funded for being "too controversial" or whatever.

 

Never did see "Miserables" or "Roy." I got the impression "Roy" was not his best; but, if you say it's worth a watch, I'll pick it up.

 

True about "V"; It's just that I was left wanting more and/or feeling it could have been done better. (Seems to be the case for me so often with movies this decade.)

 

Saw C.S.A., The Confederate States of America . I'd recommend it, especially for people who care about such issues as racism. Another Spike Lee production, and you can see it's Spike-ish; but he is presenter rather than director/writer.

I really liked how much truth in the satire is present day, rather than what you would think would be "if" the South won -- it's almost as if they did anyway. Funny, ironic, and sad Good film.

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Never did see "Miserables" or "Roy." I got the impression "Roy" was not his best; but, if you say it's worth a watch, I'll pick it up.

I liked it enough to buy it. I can only watch it when my wife isn't home though as she hates how women are treated in it. It was a lot better than Braveheart which came out at the same time. I like it a lot. Darkman, Les, Rob all have great bad guys and Liam plays pretty much the same character in each.

 

Liam is one of my favorite actors. I like tough guys who still come across as intelligent. Ron Perlman is also good although looks like a baboon so doesn't get the roles Liam does. (Perlman also has a lot more acting range.)

 

I really liked Perlman in this The Last Supper http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113613/

Geez, he's been in a ton of things.

 

True about "V"; It's just that I was left wanting more and/or feeling it could have been done better. (Seems to be the case for me so often with movies this decade.)

I don't know. In the comic book story the guy was an anarchist I guess? Anarchism doesn't impress me much. Seems to be the feelgood portion of the left which doesn't understand history and is doomed to repeat it. And the writer of the story is hypocritical in that he's done the same thing to some other writer (Gaiman?) that he complains about with respect to the company that bought the rights to V, From Hell and League of Gentlemen.

 

Saw C.S.A., The Confederate States of America . I'd recommend it, especially for people who care about such issues as racism. Another Spike Lee production, and you can see it's Spike-ish; but he is presenter rather than director/writer.

I really liked how much truth in the satire is present day, rather than what you would think would be "if" the South won -- it's almost as if they did anyway. Funny, ironic, and sad Good film.

Sounds really good. I think people take for granted that we'll just eventually reach universal equality by magic or something. Blacks could still be slaves right now if the South had won. The 40 hour week/unions, etc only exist because so many people died fighting for them. Etc, etc.

 

I just ordered CSA on netflix and put it at the top of the list. Really interested to see how they think things would be.

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Never did see "Miserables" or "Roy." I got the impression "Roy" was not his best; but, if you say it's worth a watch, I'll pick it up.

I liked it enough to buy it. I can only watch it when my wife isn't home though as she hates how women are treated in it. It was a lot better than Braveheart which came out at the same time. I like it a lot. Darkman, Les, Rob all have great bad guys and Liam plays pretty much the same character in each.

 

Liam is one of my favorite actors. I like tough guys who still come across as intelligent. Ron Perlman is also good although looks like a baboon so doesn't get the roles Liam does. (Perlman also has a lot more acting range.)

 

I really liked Perlman in this The Last Supper http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113613/

Geez, he's been in a ton of things.

 

I'll pick up Roy, then! Thanks for the warning; think it'll peeve me?

 

Oh, that Last Supper looks funny . I'll get that too.

 

Ever seen Yes Men? Funny! And almost unbelievable.

 

Hmmm...tough guy, but intelligent...gotta think about that one. I like Bogart I'd say Steve McQueen is a good smart tough guy.

James Bond was to me, always a stupid trying-to-be-intelligent character -- at least the "pretty"ones. The first Bonds were more intelligent; when Moore took it, it just got camp. And talk about sexist : The new guy seems to be getting a lot of criticism before the movie has even played; I like the way he looks. He looks more like a real character rather than cartoonish. I believe this latest is a remake of the very first Bond; so it will be a new beginning sorta thing. He reminds of Steve McQueen, actually . I won't see it though -- Bond sucks!

 

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I just ordered CSA on netflix and put it at the top of the list. Really interested to see how they think things would be.

 

It's in documentary style -- mockumentary, then, I guess ; it's not a movie-movie.

 

Odid, I recommended Equilibrium too! Good movie

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Recently, I saw Tsotsi - I'd give it a Thumbs Up; good movie.

And I saw The Smiths, Under Review (2006), which I really liked. Better than other Smiths docs.

 

Here are some others I've remembered seeing:

 

A great actor, Gael Garcia Bernal, has several movies I really enjoyed:

The Motorcycle Diaries - Thumbs Up

Dot the I - Thumbs Up - lots of unpredictable twists

Amores Perros - Thumbs Up

Bad Education - I'd give it a 6-7 so...thumb to the side, edging up ?

 

*Anyone seen his movie, Crimes of Father Amaro? I haven't; the subject matter didn't interest me at the time, but I wonder what you thought of it.

 

War Zone, directed by Tim Roth -- another favorite actor of mine. Thumbs Up...sorta...it's just that it is such a disturbing piece (incest) that it's difficult to consider it an enjoyable movie experience!

Another very disturbing film, Mysterious Skin -- heartbreaking.

 

Mystic River - Thumbs Up

...which reminded me of Sean Penn movies...

Dead Man Walking - Thumbs Up

Carlito's Way - a 5, I guess...Thumbs Side

Taps - sorta cheesy, but I always liked it

Anyone remember Bad Boys? classic!

 

Basquait - The film wasn't very good; but the cast was awesome, especially since anything with Benicio Del Toro is worth watching

Pinero, with Benjamin Bratt, who I do NOT like; but he was pretty good here.

 

 

The Usual Suspects - Thumbs Up

To Kill A Mockingbird - Thumbs Up, classic

Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck) - Thumbs Up, classic

Inherit The Wind (with Spencer Tracy) - Thumbs Up, classic (true story, court trial about evolution.)

 

Cronicas, with John Leguizamo, who was good in this.

 

DeNiro films I loved:

 

Raging Bull - best of his movies; probably the greatest film of all time!

 

Deer Hunter

Taxi Driver

This Boy's Life

King of Comedy

Mean Streets

Godfather

Good Fellas

Once Upon A Time In America

New York, New York

Casino

 

So-so Deniro:

 

Analyze This

Untouchables

Cape Fear

Wag the Dog

Heat (a part II is projected, I think)

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I'll pick up Roy, then! Thanks for the warning; think it'll peeve me?

I think it's understood that the bad way a few women are treated in the movie is not really appropiate and so I don't think you'll mind. My wife just hates any movie that has a rape in it.

 

Oh, that Last Supper looks funny . I'll get that too.

 

Ever seen Yes Men? Funny! And almost unbelievable.

I ordered it a while ago and have read about the stuff they do.

 

Hmmm...tough guy, but intelligent...gotta think about that one. I like Bogart I'd say Steve McQueen is a good smart tough guy.

James Bond was to me, always a stupid trying-to-be-intelligent character -- at least the "pretty"ones. The first Bonds were more intelligent; when Moore took it, it just got camp. And talk about sexist : The new guy seems to be getting a lot of criticism before the movie has even played; I like the way he looks. He looks more like a real character rather than cartoonish. I believe this latest is a remake of the very first Bond; so it will be a new beginning sorta thing. He reminds of Steve McQueen, actually . I won't see it though -- Bond sucks!

Sean Connery is sort of intelligent. And he came in second to Arnold in a bodybuilding contest long ago, so that sort of kind of constitutes tough.

 

I haven't most of those movies you listed.

 

Except these three:

The Usual Suspects - Thumbs Up

To Kill A Mockingbird - Thumbs Up, classic

Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck) - Thumbs Up, classic

 

Cronicas, with John Leguizamo, who was good in this.

He's a really good actor that has been in some good stuff I can't remember the names of....

 

DeNiro films I loved:

 

Raging Bull - best of his movies; probably the greatest film of all time!

 

Deer Hunter

Taxi Driver

This Boy's Life

King of Comedy

Mean Streets

Godfather

Good Fellas

Once Upon A Time In America

New York, New York

Casino

I don't like mafia movies much. I loved Once Upon a Time In America though. It's more like I don't want to like mafia movies. The glorify violence it seems.

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I'll pick up Roy, then! Thanks for the warning; think it'll peeve me?

I think it's understood that the bad way a few women are treated in the movie is not really appropiate and so I don't think you'll mind. My wife just hates any movie that has a rape in it.

 

Oh, sheez...yea, I despise rape scenes... Most are unnecessarily explicit, and, sadly, I would go as far as contending, provocatively directed -- similar to the glorification of violence, it is perverse in its production.

The one that really gets to me is the scene in The Accused. It's not even very explicit...

It's such a great movie; but my emotions go off the map when I watch it! I get so angry, and yet, I literally cry each time I see it, and want to cry whenever I remember it. Important film for women, though.

 

 

Cronicas, with John Leguizamo, who was good in this...

 

He's a really good actor that has been in some good stuff I can't remember the names of....

 

Yea, he's always good! Does a lot of small parts -- definitely underutilized and underrated; I'd like to see him in more lead roles such as in Cronicas.

 

I don't like mafia movies much. I loved Once Upon a Time In America though. It's more like I don't want to like mafia movies. The glorify violence it seems.

 

So you do like them, just wish you didn't? That's actually how I feel as well. I feel conflicted sometimes about it. I don't "like" violence; but I do like some movies which contain violence...

 

What I like about the mafia movies (the better ones, such as Godfather), is the family dynamics Seriously, though, I like the familial relationships exploration and issues of loyalty. I find that very interesting, since, to me, misplaced -- or rather, loyalty to a fault -- is a dynamic which has personally played in my own life. I find it very damaging. It exists in all relationships, though. Significant other relationships with this is also very sad. It leads to control issues, manipulation, isolation...

 

Anyway... no one goes off topic quite like I do

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So you do like them, just wish you didn't? That's actually how I feel as well. I feel conflicted sometimes about it. I don't "like" violence; but I do like some movies which contain violence...

 

What I like about the mafia movies (the better ones, such as Godfather), is the family dynamics Seriously, though, I like the familial relationships exploration and issues of loyalty. I find that very interesting, since, to me, misplaced -- or rather, loyalty to a fault -- is a dynamic which has personally played in my own life. I find it very damaging. It exists in all relationships, though. Significant other relationships with this is also very sad. It leads to control issues, manipulation, isolation...

 

Anyway... no one goes off topic quite like I do

I admit there's a lot to be captivated by in mafia movies and I like plenty of movies De Niro has been in but yeah, I just don't want to like that stuff. For example I've never seen The Sopranos. But I've seen the Godfather, Scarface, etc. And they are entertaining movies.

 

Why is it important for women to see The Accused? I looked at it on Netflix but didn't add it because I really don't like that sort of thing either. Did add the John L one though. I've got movies until about the end of november in my queue now I think.

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Saw C.S.A., The Confederate States of America . I'd recommend it, especially for people who care about such issues as racism. Another Spike Lee production, and you can see it's Spike-ish; but he is presenter rather than director/writer.

I really liked how much truth in the satire is present day, rather than what you would think would be "if" the South won -- it's almost as if they did anyway. Funny, ironic, and sad Good film.

It's interesting but i was dissappointed because I thought they diluted a potentially extremely powerful movie with way too much humor. I realize the quote at the beginning (Shaw-If you tell the truth, you better make then laugh otherwise they'll kill you.) Is apparently why they had so much humor but I totally disagree with it. Some things just aren't funny. And i thought they really wimped out by making it sort of "light hearted" with all the humor. Lincoln in black face for example. The slave with a british accent. Etc. Even the commercials, which I realize they were pointing out were real actual products, just diluted a potentially extremely powerful message.

 

Still, it was worth watching. Some good stuff. I'd just like a movie like that done in a way that really really made people not take for granted the gains that have been made. Show people just how bad things could easily still be today. And keep the tone sobering/serious. Leave the funny stuff to Chappelle, etc.

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Well, I didn't expect you to love it . How many movies have I liked that you actually liked also?

 

I agree with your points; but I still thought it was good. My main disappointment was the documentary-style format. I thought a good movie would have been much more effective and thought provoking...It would have definitely supplied more opportunities for expounding on the problems of today and the connection to this particular part of history.

Maybe this will inspire someone to write a movie about it.

 

Some things just aren't funny. And i thought they really wimped out by making it sort of "light hearted" with all the humor.

 

Why so serious? Only joys in life are sex and eating, remember?

 

Saw the original "Clerks"again, and looking forward to the second.

 

What else have you seen, Jay?

 

"The Accused" is important because it makes very clear that rape is wrong even in what many people like to think are cloudy circumstances. "She didn't say, 'No.'" Or, "She wanted it," "She liked it," etc. The manner in which she is raped and the circumstances leading up to it are what make it important for people to understand that there IS no reason or excuse for/to rape. It is a violent act, no matter how it transpires.

Jodie Foster was great in it too. It is really uncomfortable to watch (for me, anyway) and I'm sure it was uncomfortable for her to perform it. It is, though, essential to the movie. They did not glamorize it -- it's all very ugly and not stimulating as many rape scenes are filmed to be.

 

E.T.A. - Last week I saw Brick, and I must say it is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I absolutely hated it (...so you may love it Jay ) I thought it was stupid, frankly. The review given on IMB in the link describes it well, only it is a positive review. I *love* Film Noir, and have wanted to see its comeback for years; only this is an insult, in my opinion, if this is supposed to be a new-style or fusion Noir. I really liked the lead, Joseph Gordon-Levitt in "Mysterious Skin," but this was just not his role.

Hated it!

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Relatively speaking we have pretty similar movie tastes. We're both just really critical in general. Yeah I still liked CSA.

 

(99% for most people the only joys are eating and sex....) I just thought this particular thing should be serious or only very black humor. But I don't know.... it came across very silly at times with Lincoln for example. There's nothing silly about it....

 

I've been watching the Milagro Beanfield War which is good. Five people you meet in Heaven: My wife loved it, i wasn't impressed at all. It's A Wonderful Life: Im not so sure i ever watched the whole thing before. There was an SnL skit where at the end everyone beat up Potter. I thought they would do the same in the original. They didn't. Jimmy Stewart is a great actor. Nothing like him around anymore. Anyway it's a great movie.

 

Few others things..... Not coming to mind right now. Pretty busy now with work and school....

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Relatively speaking we have pretty similar movie tastes. We're both just really critical in general. Yeah I still liked CSA.

 

Moi?! Critical???

 

...(99% for most people the only joys are eating and sex....)

Thank you, Dr. Kinsey

 

 

...I've been watching the Milagro Beanfield War which is good.

 

Argh, another film I've always wanted to see Redford, right?

 

Five people you meet in Heaven: My wife loved it, i wasn't impressed at all.

 

Never heard of it.

 

It's A Wonderful Life: Im not so sure i ever watched the whole thing before. There was an SnL skit where at the end everyone beat up Potter. I thought they would do the same in the original. They didn't. Jimmy Stewart is a great actor. Nothing like him around anymore. Anyway it's a great movie.

 

Ah, yea. Awesome. Capra wasn't even hailed at the time it came out. It took a while for it to become a classic.

 

I think I linked this to Potter (VeganPotter) in a thread where I told him he needs to go back to Pottersville or something like that It's a silly little take (two pages).

 

Never saw that SNL skit sounds like I should, though.

 

 

Few others things..... Not coming to mind right now. Pretty busy now with work and school....

 

Wow, school days, aye? Don't know if I could handle it Best of luck, my Friend

My thoughts for the best are with you; you deserve it.

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Relatively speaking we have pretty similar movie tastes. We're both just really critical in general. Yeah I still liked CSA.

 

Moi?! Critical???

Well maybe I'm more critical.... than just about anyone who bothers to do sports at least and post on sporty boards.... Seems that most such people just want to enjoy the moment/find the positive at all times. I don't fit in and it's right and expected that I'm excluded and ignored in such settings.

 

...I've been watching the Milagro Beanfield War which is good.

 

Argh, another film I've always wanted to see Redford, right?

I guess he directs. He's not in the actual movie. It's pretty good. Doesn't get too serious. Lighthearted sort of movie.

 

Five people you meet in Heaven: My wife loved it, i wasn't impressed at all.

 

Never heard of it.

Not missing anything IMO. Stars Jon Voight though. How did his daughter get those big lips? He doesn't have big lips.( His daughter is the one dating Brad Pitt or whatever.) He doesn't have anything to do with her I hear.

 

Does it seem to you that actresses are very cookie cutterish? I can name all kinds of actors I like but nothing comes to mind with regard to women. I wonder if thats a fault within me or within hollywood.

 

It's A Wonderful Life: Im not so sure i ever watched the whole thing before. There was an SnL skit where at the end everyone beat up Potter. I thought they would do the same in the original. They didn't. Jimmy Stewart is a great actor. Nothing like him around anymore. Anyway it's a great movie.

 

Ah, yea. Awesome. Capra wasn't even hailed at the time it came out. It took a while for it to become a classic.

 

I think I linked this to Potter (VeganPotter) in a thread where I told him he needs to go back to Pottersville or something like that It's a silly little take (two pages).

 

Never saw that SNL skit sounds like I should, though.

Yeah in Potterville I really wondered about some of the things that were supposed to be bad. Jazz music seems like a good thing to me. Nothing wrong with a thriving night life or boxing IMO. A pawnshop maybe isn't so good. I noticed there was a Do No Walk On The Grass sign that I thought was a nice touch. I always hated such signs.

 

The SnL skit had the original Batman guy... Keaton or maybe it was Dana Carvery? They find out Potter had the money and beat the crap out of him.

 

Few others things..... Not coming to mind right now. Pretty busy now with work and school....

 

Wow, school days, aye? Don't know if I could handle it Best of luck, my Friend

Oh why not? I've done 7 years of college. Over 200 credit hours with good grades. Why not a few more years? Actually I have a sociology professor who goes on about how capitalism is a failure and must be eradicated, etc. Great stuff. So it's pretty fun.

 

First job I've had where I know I'm really helping people. I think that matters more to me than I realized. I think what I've been stuck in instead all these years has been driving me nuts. Really other than this job (transporting patients/cleaning hospital rooms) the most useful job I've ever had was making pizzas. That despite all my education and willingness to work hard. It's no wonder I've been getting just a tad bit angry...... That and so much else of course. I try really hard to downplay my own personal situation as relatively insignificant. So many have it so worse..... Or do they? Ignorance is bliss.... When I was helping make 2000 cars everyday at Toyota I knew it was pretty crappy. What did the others think? Did they think at all? They all hated their jobs and only kept going for their children.... But was it just being incredibly overworked and treated like shit that bothered them....?

 

And so I'm making 13K/yr as not much more than a janitor and my sister, etc are nagging the hell out of me to go after some war profiteer job at 65K/yr and they think I'm nuts for not wanting it. Some 60 hr/wk make toys for the military thing that requires a security clearance. I'd probably get escorted out with no explanation at some point after TALON http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying/24009prs20060201.html

notifies them that I shouldn't be allowed a clearance what with being on the far left and all.

 

Excuse my rant.

 

My thoughts for the best are with you; you deserve it.

Thanks.

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...Moi?! Critical??? ...

 

Well maybe I'm more critical.... than just about anyone who bothers to do sports at least and post on sporty boards.... Seems that most such people just want to enjoy the moment/find the positive at all times. I don't fit in and it's right and expected that I'm excluded and ignored in such settings.

 

I was being facetious; I am critical

 

I believe you if you say you're critical; but I also think you are honest and blunt so that often comes off as critical in a negative way, I think.

 

 

... Stars Jon Voight though. How did his daughter get those big lips? He doesn't have big lips.( His daughter is the one dating Brad Pitt or whatever.) He doesn't have anything to do with her I hear.

 

Yea, I think her mother may have the lips. She's looking more like him as she ages, though. I really liked her when I saw her act the first time in Gia. And she was okay in a couple other things, but she really gets on my nerves now.

They have some sort of family feud going.

Speaking of Voight, did you like, Midnight Cowboy?

 

...Does it seem to you that actresses are very cookie cutterish? I can name all kinds of actors I like but nothing comes to mind with regard to women. I wonder if thats a fault within me or within hollywood.

 

Well, it's mostly Hollywood, I think. If you mean current female actors, then, yes, I agree. Most of the better ones are older women who are no longer valued, and all the best I can name off the top of my head are old and either no longer working or deceased.

 

Jodie Foster is probably the best currently working actress. I love Susan Sarandon. I like Kirsten Dunst, when she does a real acting role. I like Jennifer Tilly. Diane Keaton is a good actress, too.

 

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Oh why not? I've done 7 years of college. Over 200 credit hours with good grades. Why not a few more years? Actually I have a sociology professor who goes on about how capitalism is a failure and must be eradicated, etc. Great stuff. So it's pretty fun.

 

Sounds like a cool teacher.

Well, I could, I guess, if it were something I really wanted to do.

 

...First job I've had where I know I'm really helping people. I think that matters more to me than I realized. I think what I've been stuck in instead all these years has been driving me nuts. Really other than this job (transporting patients/cleaning hospital rooms) the most useful job I've ever had was making pizzas. That despite all my education and willingness to work hard. It's no wonder I've been getting just a tad bit angry...... That and so much else of course. I try really hard to downplay my own personal situation as relatively insignificant. So many have it so worse..... Or do they? Ignorance is bliss.... When I was helping make 2000 cars everyday at Toyota I knew it was pretty crappy. What did the others think? Did they think at all? They all hated their jobs and only kept going for their children.... But was it just being incredibly overworked and treated like shit that bothered them....?

I think a lot of people live this way. They just do what they have to do to survive, go through the motions and just function...it's best, in my opinion, to do what one really wants whether or not it makes the most money. Sadly, the cost of a decent living is way too high and with no healthcare...

 

...And so I'm making 13K/yr as not much more than a janitor and my sister, etc are nagging the hell out of me to go after some war profiteer job...

 

Didn't I suggest something like that to you?

No, actually, I think it was something in translation...

 

... at 65K/yr and they think I'm nuts for not wanting it. Some 60 hr/wk make toys for the military thing that requires a security clearance. I'd probably get escorted out with no explanation at some point after TALON http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying/24009prs20060201.html

notifies them that I shouldn't be allowed a clearance what with being on the far left and all.

 

Excuse my rant.

 

I understand why you don't want to do it, and you are right not to. Not selling your soul for a few dollars more is something to be applauded.

 

Speaking of "a few dollars more" I just saw The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -- *Classic* It was on tv, and I hadn't seen it in years. That's one to get you in a good mood

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I was being facetious; I am critical

Yes, I know you are.

 

I believe you if you say you're critical; but I also think you are honest and blunt so that often comes off as critical in a negative way, I think.

I'm a truth seeker practicing the golden rule and I don't know.. It seems everyone else is doing something very different.

 

Yea, I think her mother may have the lips. She's looking more like him as she ages, though. I really liked her when I saw her act the first time in Gia. And she was okay in a couple other things, but she really gets on my nerves now.

They have some sort of family feud going.

The lips bother me. I know botux is big and I just really dislike artificially inflated bodyparts..... Saw a movie couple days ago... The Whicker Man. The original is supposed to be a cult classis. The new version wasn't any good. The leading lady also had very ugly botux lips I thought. Not that that's really important.... but it annoys me.....

 

Speaking of Voight, did you like, Midnight Cowboy?

You know, I've definitely heard of it. But I don't think I've ever seen that one. I'll have to see it.

 

Well, it's mostly Hollywood, I think. If you mean current female actors, then, yes, I agree. Most of the better ones are older women who are no longer valued, and all the best I can name off the top of my head are old and either no longer working or deceased.

 

Jodie Foster is probably the best currently working actress. I love Susan Sarandon. I like Kirsten Dunst, when she does a real acting role. I like Jennifer Tilly. Diane Keaton is a good actress, too.

Yes, that's what I was thinking it was.

 

I understand why you don't want to do it, and you are right not to. Not selling your soul for a few dollars more is something to be applauded.

It's a lot more than a few dollars of course.... It's 5 times more salary. If my wife loses her job I'll have no real choice but to do it, (if even offered it of course.)

 

Speaking of "a few dollars more" I just saw The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -- *Classic* It was on tv, and I hadn't seen it in years. That's one to get you in a good mood

Yes, I like a lot of Eastwood's movie. The Unforgiven. Josey Wales(sp), etc.

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Clint has a new WWII movie coming out; not particularly interested in seeing it, though. I'll end up renting the dvd, though.

 

I saw David Mamet's play translated to film, Edmond. Interesting film and not easily forgettable. Mostly, that is due to William H. Macy, who I love. He's the only reason I watched it, really; since I had not heard of this film or play at all. He gave a great performance, whatever one thinks of the film; so it's recommended on that, if one loves to watch great acting. And an interesting script.

I really didn't like the performance of Julia Stiles who is always so flat. She's like a stone, even when emoting. I don't know; I just don't like her, I guess. I would have loved to see someone stronger in her role.

 

Looking forward to the controversial, Death of a President -- anyone see it? It starts in a couple days here.

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I think Julia Style's voice is just so monotone(not completely but too much for an actress). Its hard to be expressive when you have a voice like that...the only person I've seen succeed at being a "good" actor/actress with a narrow vocal range is LeeLee Sobieski and she's not great...just pretty good

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I'm meaning to see Death of a President. Haven't yet though.

 

Anyone see Time of the Gypsies? late 80's movie not on DVD.

 

Borat? (Borat kind of reminded me of Time of the Gypsies.)

 

Haven't seen Borat or Time of the Gypsies. Did you see it recently? How, if not on dvd?

 

I tried to watch DaVinci Code. Good Lord, that's a piece of crap. I can't believe Ron Howard directed it. I couldn't even sit through it, it was boring as all hell. And, as I suspected, Tom Hanks sucks in this role. Visually, it was so dark; and nothing special as far as the look of it. I just hated it, hated it.

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Haven't seen Borat or Time of the Gypsies. Did you see it recently? How, if not on dvd?

Time of the Gypsies was at the library back in Los Alamos, NM.

 

I tried to watch DaVinci Code. Good Lord, that's a piece of crap. I can't believe Ron Howard directed it. I couldn't even sit through it, it was boring as all hell. And, as I suspected, Tom Hanks sucks in this role. Visually, it was so dark; and nothing special as far as the look of it. I just hated it, hated it.

Did you read the book? Pretty hard book to turn into a movie I thought. Still didn't really do a good job. Yeah, it wasn't very good. Not quite sure though what would have made it better. But it's been a while now.

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Anyone know the name of a stop motion clay animation movie that had these witches in it that you could only tell they were witches because they cried nonstop? (At least I think they were witches, maybe they were called banshees.)

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Anyone know the name of a stop motion clay animation movie that had these witches in it that you could only tell they were witches because they cried nonstop? (At least I think they were witches, maybe they were called banshees.)

 

Ha! No, I don't; but first thing that came to mind was a Macbeth-kinda-thingy?

Is this something you've seen before and are trying to find again? Or have you just forgotten the name of something you want to see? If you've seen it, do you have any other clues?

 

Did you read the book? Pretty hard book to turn into a movie I thought. Still didn't really do a good job. Yeah, it wasn't very good. Not quite sure though what would have made it better. But it's been a while now.

 

Yes, I read it. It was much better, like most books; but I still had issues with it.

 

It is difficult to think of how it could have been better, you're right. I just think this is the kind of thing best left unmade. Not sure why it didn't work as a movie either especially since it was pretty much done according to the book; unless that's why?

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Ha! No, I don't; but first thing that came to mind was a Macbeth-kinda-thingy?

Is this something you've seen before and are trying to find again? Or have you just forgotten the name of something you want to see? If you've seen it, do you have any other clues?

It's a movie I saw as a kid and have wanted to find on and off again ever since. Other clues..... there was a factory.... and a tree..... and maybe an island? Not very good clues..... Very similar to the stop motion holiday movies like Jack Frost.... and all those old christmas movies with Burl Ives I think...

 

Yes, I read it. It was much better, like most books; but I still had issues with it.

 

It is difficult to think of how it could have been better, you're right. I just think this is the kind of thing best left unmade. Not sure why it didn't work as a movie either especially since it was pretty much done according to the book; unless that's why?

I sort of dislike when they purposely go out of their way to make the movie different than the book. So I appreciate that it was so similar to the book.... but obviously it didn't work. Probably different music could have gone a long way in the movie. It tells you what you're supposed to be feeling even if the actual action doesn't really support such feelings. Usually just one really good re-ocurring song I think can go a long way. Maybe some song that sounded mysterious or something. I don't know, it's been too long. The movie was very anti-climatic and I think for someone who hadn't read the book it probably would have been a chore just to keep up with all the history/clues, etc.

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