vegdad Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Since going vegetarian and I'd say about 90% vegan I've done very well except for potato chips My weakness, especially on a Friday night. Just needed to complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyQ Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Chips & dip. An all time fave. And if there is no dip, no worry. Plain chips are great, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym hater Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 They are a great snack, and not as unhealthy as many people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Potato chips are fine, and you can make your own dip. A nice onion dip from powdered onion soup and veganaise or tofutti sour supreme is good. I think the veganaise is good at least, been years since i tried such a concoction . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegdad Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share Posted July 15, 2006 They are a great snack, and not as unhealthy as many people think.They're not that bad for you? I am one of those people. Please enlighten me so I can stop hating them and start loving them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 They are a great snack, and not as unhealthy as many people think. Sounds like a rationalization for eating them. I do like an occasional bag (yes, I can eat a whole bag, which is why I usually avoid them!) of fat-reduced potato chips (not the 'fat free ones' or the ones with Olestra', but a brand that has just potatoes and peanut oil as the ingredients. They really don't have much nutritional value, though, and fried foods in general are calorie dense and nutrient poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym hater Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 The quality of chips has improved in the past years. Chips used to had a lot of rancy fatty acids in them, which where linked to cancer. Recently they examined the chips again, and there turned out to be no significant amount of those rancid fatty acids in the chips anymore. Also the biggest part of the fatty acids in chips is unsaturated, and even some poly unsaturated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 You could try to do aversion therapy where each time you eat a chip, you DDT yourself onto a glass table. That way you will connect the feeling of being DDT'd onto a glass table with eating chips, so you will avoid it in future. That's what I did, and I never had any problems apart from all the glass in my eyes and skull fractures. But I certainly don't eat chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Since reading this thread, I've had a craving for potato chips!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 When I went on my health food craze a year after being vegan I gave up chips unless I baked them myself...but theres also taro chips(especially the ones with sweet potato, purple potatos mixed in) which I wouldn't eat now but I think they're fine if your not as anal as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 You could try to do aversion therapy where each time you eat a chip, you DDT yourself onto a glass table. That way you will connect the feeling of being DDT'd onto a glass table with eating chips, so you will avoid it in future. That's what I did, and I never had any problems apart from all the glass in my eyes and skull fractures. But I certainly don't eat chips. I love our Ninja! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyQ Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 The Dill Pickle Chip Dip in How It All Vegan is fantastic with potato chips! It is tofu based. I suggest making it without the maple syrup. The Lay's Baked chips are not too bad, especially if you are going to dip but I prefer to have chips as a treat so when I do eat them I go for the locally made full fat chips. They may be full fat, but they have way fewer ingredients than the baked Lay's.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raVen_ Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Sorry Guys, but potato chips are one of the worst foods for you! It's not just the fat and salt; it's the acrylamides which form from frying in oil and even baking, unfortunately. And starches are the worst! The best way to eat cooked foods is to boil or steam; microwaving is acceptable, but not the best either. Acrylamides form at 248-degrees; water boils at 212, so is safe. Sorry! I would save them for super rare occasions or ditch 'em. Also, be aware that barbecuing is also bad. Again, save it for special occasion, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelbct Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Sorry Guys, but potato chips are one of the worst foods for you! It's not just the fat and salt; it's the acrylamides which form from frying in oil and even baking, unfortunately. And starches are the worst! How about baked corn chips? So wait, if even baking potatoes forms toxins, does that mean baked potatoes are out too? Or is it just something about potatoes and oil, and if so, is this all oil, or just high saturated and transfat oil? Thanks,Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 So wait, if even baking potatoes forms toxins, does that mean baked potatoes are out too? Or is it just something about potatoes and oil, and if so, is this all oil, or just high saturated and transfat oil?As far as i know, there are two main factors that promote the forming of toxins: 1.) the temperature - the higher the temperature, the more toxic the food; 2.) the absence of oxygen (as happens when you fry something: the fat blocks the oxygen from the food). Acrylamids form when fat and starches are heated together (or when starches are heated to very high temperatures) baked potatoes have low acrylamids, because they are not fried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raVen_ Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Sorry Guys, but potato chips are one of the worst foods for you! It's not just the fat and salt; it's the acrylamides which form from frying in oil and even baking, unfortunately. And starches are the worst! How about baked corn chips? So wait, if even baking potatoes forms toxins, does that mean baked potatoes are out too? Or is it just something about potatoes and oil, and if so, is this all oil, or just high saturated and transfat oil? Thanks,Joel Yes, corn chips and baked potatoes with and without oils . Steaming and boiling are safest. If you want a baked-potato texture, you could microwave covered till almost soft, then uncover and cook for a minute or so to sort of dry it out; though, microwaving isn't out of the woods yet, in terms of safety. Just don't cook them till really soft; keep them firm so they don't fall apart or get mushy. I don't boil often for this reason; I prefer steaming because they come out firmer and with flavor. The higher the temperature, the worse it is. In Dr.Fuhrman's, "Disease Proof" Blog - scroll to the seventh entry "Eating to Age Rapidly and Die Prematurely" (the archives are a goldmine), he mentions acrylamides in this entry. As well, Dr. Fuhrman, who wrote "Eat to Live," advises against all processed foods which have been baked because of low nutrient density and acrylamides, such as cereals; peanut butter, roasted nuts/seeds, popcorn in oil, coffee, and some teas which are roasted are out too. Dr.McDougall on Acrylamides. So, yea, keep it for special occasions, if you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 peanut butter? The label on my peanut butter only has one ingredient and that's peanuts. Is there something I don't know about my creamy yummy scrumptious peanut butter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym hater Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 So, yea, keep it for special occasions, if you can Every day is a special occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raVen_ Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 ... Is there something I don't know about my creamy yummy scrumptious peanut butter? Yes, it's roasted. Raw peanuts are horrible, and not safe to eat, as I understand it (the ones used for peanut butter). All peanut butter is roasted. I'm not sure, but I think Spanish peanuts can be eaten raw; but not sure how "raw" they are, meaning they may be steamed or something in the process. I've eaten them with no problem. But they do not taste like peanutbutter peanuts. gymhater, just be careful! First gym hating, now this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daywalker Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Yes, it's roasted. Raw peanuts are horrible, and not safe to eat, as I understand it (the ones used for peanut butter). I LOVE raw peanuts, and have never heard that they're not safe to eat?They're much better than roasted, but very hard to get I always ordered them online, in my raw food days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie kray Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 what about Sun Chips? are thay any better than regular potato chips? whole grain goodness right? ....umm... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raVen_ Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Yes, it's roasted. Raw peanuts are horrible, and not safe to eat, as I understand it (the ones used for peanut butter). I LOVE raw peanuts, and have never heard that they're not safe to eat?They're much better than roasted, but very hard to get I always ordered them online, in my raw food days. Yes, I was referring to the ones used in peanut butter (taste horrible raw). As I mentioned, the Spanish peanuts I've eaten raw are okay. Of course none of them taste anywhere near as good as the roasted. I have seen the raw peanuts sold by rawfood companies -- Jungle Peanuts, I believe, they are called -- haven't tried 'em; but I'm not sure I want to! As far as not safe, it's the aflatoxins caused by a fungus; but, apparently, the latest is that it is such a rare occurrence that the peanuts sold in stores, raw (though they almost all recommend roasting) are safe for eating -- even the ones I referred to for peanut butter! So, go ahead and eat them raw, if you want Not if they're baked, ronnie kray . These foods are just not optimal foods for health. If your diet is otherwise clean -- of course it is, right? -- then an occasional dalliance into the forbidden world of baked/fried won't kill ya. However, it is best to avoid these; I certainly do! I want to be as healthy as I can be Btw, those kray brothers were a nasty twosome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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