GinsuFrenzy Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 It is proven that coffee is rich in antioxidants, and has preventive properties against Parkinon's and similar diseases. I think a good measure of whether coffee is good for you can be summed up with a simple question. Do your non-coffee drinking friends look like poster children for health? Mine sure don't. I love my morning Americano's and organic roasts and I ain't going to let hypocrites sucking down cokes and root beers all day try to convince me otherwise Black coffee in moderation has had numerous reports by doctors and health specialists as helping brain function, speeding up metabolism, and contradicting depression. As has pure dark chocolate. When you add gobs of sugar to things, that's when everything gets fucked. That is why all the black coffee drinkers in my family are thin and young looking, and all the mocha/heavy cream and soda drinkers are either fat or have zits all over their face and nasty armpit secretions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Yum...americanos are grrreat. I agree but I see coffee as something like red wine. Lots of antioxidants and one cup a day is good, two not so good, and three is probably not a good idea...not that I do this since I rarely drink coffee but I think it wouldn't hurt so much if I did drink a bit every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdarthveganx Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 coffee is really gross to me/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) It is proven that coffee is rich in antioxidants, and has preventive properties against Parkinon's and similar diseases. First of all: A study cannot prove anything. Scientifically this is impossible.These kinds of studies are usually done with persons follwing a SAD which lacks almost everything. And for these persons preventive effects maybe true, although I doubt even this. Nevertheless: A healthy vegan diet with a lot of raw food eaten is very rich in antioxidants and protective effects against many deseases and of course contains fewer indegrients causing negative effects. Because of that I seriously doubt that studies would show any correlations coffee/health for vegans with a healthy diet. I think a good measure of whether coffee is good for you can be summed up with a simple question. Do your non-coffee drinking friends look like poster children for health? Mine sure don't. If meant as a joke: If you really think this: Black coffee in moderation has had numerous reports by doctors and health specialists as helping brain function, speeding up metabolism, and contradicting depression. As has pure dark chocolate. When you add gobs of sugar to things, that's when everything gets fucked. It is not just the sugar.When you have a look at the book metioned above you may understand that you pay a high price for that "enhanced brain function": Coffee causes a state of alert inside the body and the brain. Of course some functions are enhanced others like creativity are kind of blocked because some thousand years ago alert meant a fight or running to save your life. As far as I know these situations are very rare in normal workers life. But I really do not want to repeat more of what others wrote much better than I ever could. Edited February 17, 2007 by flanders77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Maybe not but I think its good to get as many different anti oxidant rich foods as possible and not from 5 staple foods. Its probably good to mix things up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelhobson Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I think its good to get as many different anti oxidant rich foods as possible and not from 5 staple foods. Five staple foods? I get my anti-oxidants from coffee, chocolate, brown ale and red wine. What's the fifth anti-oxidant staple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I think its good to get as many different anti oxidant rich foods as possible and not from 5 staple foods. Five staple foods? I get my anti-oxidants from coffee, chocolate, brown ale and red wine. What's the fifth anti-oxidant staple? @potter: If you eat 5 staple foods only be sure to add Michaels to your diet... Almost all fruits and vegetables are rich in antioxydants and have no negative side effects like coffee. I really do not see any need to head for coffee for antioxydants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelhobson Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I think its good to get as many different anti oxidant rich foods as possible and not from 5 staple foods. Five staple foods? I get my anti-oxidants from coffee, chocolate, brown ale and red wine. What's the fifth anti-oxidant staple? @potter: If you eat 5 staple foods only be sure to add Michaels to your diet... Almost all fruits and vegetables are rich in antioxydants and have no negative side effects like coffee. I really do not see any need to head for coffee for antioxydants. Seriously Flanders, you and I actually agree on this point. All of the above have some good anti-oxidants, but nothing you can't get elsewhere and without any possible negative effects from the caffeine and alcohol. If you need coffee for your anti-oxidants then you have some serious dietary problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The thing is there are so many different antioxidants out there and sure there are many you don't need but I think foods have antioxidants that are plant specific and coffee may have some of those since it has so many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelhobson Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The thing is there are so many different antioxidants out there and sure there are many you don't need but I think foods have antioxidants that are plant specific and coffee may have some of those since it has so many Well no worries here. I'm making good use of coffee anti-oxidants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinsuFrenzy Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 It is proven that coffee is rich in antioxidants, and has preventive properties against Parkinon's and similar diseases. First of all: A study cannot prove anything. Scientifically this is impossible.These kinds of studies are usually done with persons follwing a SAD which lacks almost everything. And for these persons preventive effects maybe true, although I doubt even this. Nevertheless: A healthy vegan diet with a lot of raw food eaten is very rich in antioxidants and protective effects against many deseases and of course contains fewer indegrients causing negative effects. Because of that I seriously doubt that studies would show any correlations coffee/health for vegans with a healthy diet. I think a good measure of whether coffee is good for you can be summed up with a simple question. Do your non-coffee drinking friends look like poster children for health? Mine sure don't. If meant as a joke: If you really think this: Black coffee in moderation has had numerous reports by doctors and health specialists as helping brain function, speeding up metabolism, and contradicting depression. As has pure dark chocolate. When you add gobs of sugar to things, that's when everything gets fucked. It is not just the sugar.When you have a look at the book metioned above you may understand that you pay a high price for that "enhanced brain function": Coffee causes a state of alert inside the body and the brain. Of course some functions are enhanced others like creativity are kind of blocked because some thousand years ago alert meant a fight or running to save your life. As far as I know these situations are very rare in normal workers life. But I really do not want to repeat more of what others wrote much better than I ever could. Oh well, like homeboy above mentioned.. one negative story vs. one positive usually about comes down to an even line. Everybody needs a little something to get them by. I have a particular friend who picks on me all the time for needing caffeine to start the day. Coffee is what gets me up and puts a smile on my face. For him, it's fast food such as burritos and cheeseburgers and tons of sugary soft drinks. I just find it funny how some people knock the almighty coffee bean for health-related reasons yet they dump all kinds of processed and insulin spiking foods into their bodies. Bottom line, I think there are many more things to worry about before the occasional cup of joe. Better yet, here's an interesting topic. How many of you drink tap/sink water? This includes water at restaurants too. Talk about a poisonous beverage that literally scars the lining of the arteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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