Brett Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dn/multi.html thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Messplay Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I enjoyed them when I used 'em. Now I'm using NOW's ADAM multivitamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I think they are probably OK to take just for a little assurance that you are getting all the vitamins that you need. Take with food, so the body's enzymes breaks it down with the food nutrients and can absorb the nutrients where needed. The only thing that I would be careful with is the iron. I eat so many iron-rich foods that I don't need to take in extra iron (even if I am a female). I took one with iron one time, and my stools became black and nasty (scared me!). So just check out your stools when taking it perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Yeah...if I take anything with over 20% iron in it I feel like total crap. I never thought about having too much iron and I wanted to see how it would make me feel on my bike to take a bit extra and it was a bad idea(these had 150% of your BS daily value). Anyway I felt terrible and even worse the next day. So bad that I was forced to cut my training ride in less than half...so I tried taking half a pill and I only felt 10% better...I'm never taking iron pills again and the multis I buy from now on will have low or no iron...and honestly I don't think I really eat that much iron rich food...I have my share of greens but it doesn't seem like it would be enough in terms of iron but it does the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 I think they are probably OK to take just for a little assurance that you are getting all the vitamins that you need. Take with food, so the body's enzymes breaks it down with the food nutrients and can absorb the nutrients where needed. The only thing that I would be careful with is the iron. I eat so many iron-rich foods that I don't need to take in extra iron (even if I am a female). I took one with iron one time, and my stools became black and nasty (scared me!). So just check out your stools when taking it perhaps. I'm a pretty lazy vegan though. Do you think I'll be fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighead Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I think they are probably OK to take just for a little assurance that you are getting all the vitamins that you need. Take with food, so the body's enzymes breaks it down with the food nutrients and can absorb the nutrients where needed. The only thing that I would be careful with is the iron. I eat so many iron-rich foods that I don't need to take in extra iron (even if I am a female). I took one with iron one time, and my stools became black and nasty (scared me!). So just check out your stools when taking it perhaps. I'm a pretty lazy vegan though. Do you think I'll be fine?ummm...... too lazy to check your stool?? j/k you might try VegLife's vegan one multi. i think it's iron-free. http://veganessentials.com/catalog/multi-veg-vitamin-and-mineral-complex-by-veglife.htm if you scroll down that page, there are lots of different vegan multis there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 IYO, what is a lazy vegan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 IYO, what is a lazy vegan? Lazy in the sense that my diet is really weak. I only eat two main half ass meals a day with little snacks here and there. I'm probably getting nowhere near the amount of vitamins and nutrients my body needs to maintain a healthy diet. I'm going to post another thread on this soon because I'm trying to make new friends who can help me organize myself a little more as far as buying things on a low budget and eating better. That's why it seems like I should just go with the vitamins with the iron. I'm probably iron deficient. I have no knowledge of vitamins though. I'm not sure which ones would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggymeggy Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Re: Guys and Iron - Be careful if you're a guy and you supplement iron at all. The body doesn't have a mechanism to get rid of excess iron the way it does other nutrients. Women lose iron through menstruation, but in guys it can accumulate and be harmful. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I say save the money on vitamins and spend it on more fruit and veggies. Veggymeggy - love your sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessifly Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I agree with Trev. Getting your nutrients from food is highly superior to pill supplementation. More Harm than Good? Also if you take a once daily multivitamin, it may claim to have a sufficient or high percentage of each nutrient, but some are fat soluable (excess is stored in the liver) and some are water soluable (not stored, excess is dissolved and eliminated). If you take the vitamin in the morning, the water soluable nutrients are eliminated early in the day and without a proper diet or more supplementation throughout the day your body is left without those nutrients for most of the day. As an example of a fat soluable vitamin, vitamin A can be very harmful if you store too much, and you can get too much easily from excess vitamin supplements, but you really can't get too much vitamin a from food because when it comes from food like vegetables it starts as beta-carotene that is converted to vitamin A by your body, the unneeded amount is discarded by the body not stored like Vitamin A from pills is. Although this means breaking a little free of the "lazy vegan" thing, it would be worth it to focus more on a healthy diet rather than supplementing the deficiencies (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggymeggy Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I agree with Trev. Getting your nutrients from food is highly superior to pill supplementation. More Harm than Good? Also if you take a once daily multivitamin, it may claim to have a sufficient or high percentage of each nutrient, but some are fat soluable (excess is stored in the liver) and some are water soluable (not stored, excess is dissolved and eliminated). If you take the vitamin in the morning, the water soluable nutrients are eliminated early in the day and without a proper diet or more supplementation throughout the day your body is left without those nutrients for most of the day. As an example of a fat soluable vitamin, vitamin A can be very harmful if you store too much, and you can get too much easily from excess vitamin supplements, but you really can't get too much vitamin a from food because when it comes from food like vegetables it starts as beta-carotene that is converted to vitamin A by your body, the unneeded amount is discarded by the body not stored like Vitamin A from pills is. Although this means breaking a little free of the "lazy vegan" thing, it would be worth it to focus more on a healthy diet rather than supplementing the deficiencies (imo) It is VERY important to get a vitamin that is USP certified or independent lab certified, as explained by the article linked above. Sadly, the ones that aren't certified aren't always what they say they are, and sometimes are dangerous - something I think is a travesty. About vitamin A, the vitamin label will tell you the percentage of 'preformed' vit A and beta carotene. Most are about 50% beta carotene. As long as you are not doubling up on vitamins, and definitely as a vegan since you don't get it from the diet, vit A toxicity shouldn't be an issue. Even in meat eaters it's not common. The population where it appears most often actually is your native Alaskans, that eat only meat pretty much year round, and eat the whole animal - including the liver, where A is stored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessifly Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 the vitamin label will tell you the percentage of 'preformed' vit A and beta carotene. Most are about 50% beta carotene. The information I got was from a conversation with a pharmacist I work with, she was warning me about taking multivitamins and getting too much vitamin A (she didn't say toxicity but just that it is dangerous for the heart and hard on the bones to get too much).. That's interesting about the 50% beta-carotene. I never really looked into the source of the vitamin, but with that I would think that a vegan vitamin would have to be 100% beta-carotene? It appears that the preformed is all animal sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggymeggy Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I never really looked into the source of the vitamin, but with that I would think that a vegan vitamin would have to be 100% beta-carotene? It appears that the preformed is all animal sources?i *think* it can be synthesized, but to be honest I'm not sure. The vitamin I take is 100% beta carotene. Beta carotene is only converted to A at a 1/6 efficiency rate, (which is why vit A is also listed as RAE - retinol activity equivalents) so usually it's a mix...my husband take a men's formula that is only 13% beta carotene, and that is actually the reason I'm going to switch him to something else - he doesn't need that much preformed A. "Toxicity" refers to the point at which negative effects are seen....including what you've described. Too much vit A is indeed bad, it's just that most people don't really need to worry about it. Just don't take lots of vitamin A (not beta carotene) and don't eat lots of liver. Take home message: look carefully at your vitamin labels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 To me...assuming you could absorb everything...I'd rather vitamin companies lie about what percentage of what is in their pills...who needs 1500% or more of anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggymeggy Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 To me...assuming you could absorb everything...I'd rather vitamin companies lie about what percentage of what is in their pills...who needs 1500% or more of anything The problem is actually that things like lead show up.... And yeah, the mega-doses at one time make for some expensive pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Yeah, I think I'm just going to work on my diet. No need for pills. I finally just made a new vegan friend who cooks a lot and she is going to help me out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moai Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I used to take NOW ADAM vcaps. It is probably one of the best choices. But I am now taking only methylcobalamin weekly and daily D2. I get about 2-3 kg of f+v daily so I really don't need all that extra stuff from a multi. The good thing about NOW ADAM is that it comes in a capsule. You can open the capsule and use only a fraction of it if you want to be safer. Just 1/10 of it will give you more than enough B12 for a day. Or if that is impossible to gauge, you can take 1/2 of 1 every three days or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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