veggieprincess Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 You've said a few times that you've cut soy out of your diet. What is your personal reasoning behind that. I know there's been alot in the news lately about men and soy consumption. Was this the reason? Just curious. It must be tough, because soy based products are abundant in a Vegan diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 He did it because he started to get into a lot of other foods, and after eating 300+ grams of soy protein a day, got scared he might develop a food allergy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Good answer Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Good answer Robert. I answered with "He" not "I". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggieprincess Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 He also said that he was at his peak physically when he had the soy in his diet. I wonder if he's on the fence as to whether to add some back in or not, now that he's motivated to get back to his bodybuilding physique. What do you think Odidnetne.... aka Pseudo Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Who knows, he's on the road all the time now, must be hard to stick to a diet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Robert needs to just go on the eat everything in sight diet. Its easy to stick to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I'm on that diet too. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 The main reason I cut back on soy (I haven't completely cut it out) is because I ate soy foods for 6-8 meals a day for 10 years. I more soy than almost anyone on the planet, especially back in the 2000-2003 years when I was eating 300 grams of protein per day (mostly from soy) often including 5-7 Clif Bars a day and many packages of processed tofu and soy foods. I just felt like that was all I was eating and I was often bloated and gassy and all these other things I thought were related to soy. I cut way back on it to the point where I could go days or even weeks without even having any soy at all. A major change from consuming it 6 times a day. Basically I didn't want to develop an allergy to it since soy is a common allergen and I learned from Brendan Brazier that there were a lot more healthier options out there. Then I discovered green vegetables and certain grains I'd never heard of or had before. I don't avoid soy as if it were dairy, I just don't go out of my way to get it very often. I've added new foods to my diet and I think it is a better balance. I made my best gains when I was eating all that soy, but it was also a time in my life when I was the most dedicated to training and eating and living a bodybuilding lifestyle. I have lived that lifestyle for years, so I think there were other factors than just the high soy content that led to strength gains and muscle gains. I don't have major issues with soy, I just think some foods might be better, leave less of an environmental footprint on the planet, and provide more variety to a diet that is already heavily laden in soy. With my reduced intake of soy, I noticed that I still get bloated and gassy, so it wasn't totally related to soy after all. That is pretty much my relationship with soy now. Not six times a day, but also not never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
health freak Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 yeah, i agree. my doctor also told me that soy is an allergen and i should not eat it all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I don't think organic soy grow for things like soymilk and tofu leave much of a footprint on the planet (unless it's just fields and fields like we grow corn), I think it's the stuff they use for cheap feed, the fields and fields and fields laden with pesticides and everything else. I have never eaten as much soy as Robert, but there was a point where I was probably drinking a quart of soymilk everyday, but once I started to branch out and stop drinking that much soy, I was forced to find a larger variety of foods, which is a move I don't regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanAndrew Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I usually go on big tofu kicks(i'm on one right now) and then I get sick of it and go on to other things. I like to keep my diet shifting(not very drastically) to make sure I don't get bored with what I'm eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't see much reason in avoiding soy unless you have a bad history with it. I don't eat soy like I use to since I'm trying to avoid protein but I know I'd be completely fine if I was still eating tons of it. I really miss eating soy like I used to and eating tons of soy an everything else is pretty much the only thing I look forward in terms of retiring from racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't see much reason in avoiding soy unless you have a bad history with it. I don't eat soy like I use to since I'm trying to avoid protein but I know I'd be completely fine if I was still eating tons of it. I really miss eating soy like I used to and eating tons of soy an everything else is pretty much the only thing I look forward in terms of retiring from racing. I think a reason he chose to avoid it more is because he was eating a lot of fake meats, and wanted to find more variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 He just said why he avoids it up a few posts. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 He just said why he avoids it up a few posts. lol Yeah, but remember how many times at V.V he specifically stated that he used to go nuts on the really processed stuff, ie Soy hot dogs, boca burgers, clif bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xveganjoshx Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't eat soy like I use to since I'm trying to avoid protein.Wow potter we live in different universes!!! You are too funny. I know that is consistent with your goals but I really just get a kick out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't eat soy like I use to since I'm trying to avoid protein.Wow potter we live in different universes!!! You are too funny. I know that is consistent with your goals but I really just get a kick out of it. I think you ate enough burritos in Portland to show us without words that you had far different goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xveganjoshx Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't eat soy like I use to since I'm trying to avoid protein.Wow potter we live in different universes!!! You are too funny. I know that is consistent with your goals but I really just get a kick out of it. I think you ate enough burritos in Portland to show us without words that you had far different goals. LOL. Actually I haven't eaten that many burritos lately. Mostly rice, pasta, potatoes, oats, soy foods, and buckwheat and pea proteins. But enough about me, back to the thread at hand. I eat soy like it's going out of style, and I wouldn't have it any other way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I eat soy like it's going out of style, and I wouldn't have it any other way! Be careful your pecs will turn to breasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 He needs those...being a princess and all. In a year he's gonna be xveganprincessx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Well I found out that I am allergic to soy and wheat. I knew I had a problem with wheat because of the hives and only suspected the soy. It is in practically everything packaged. I wasn't big on soy products but when I ate a soy protein bar I really felt bad. Rapid pulse, hives etc.... I don't like beans that much so I am looking for some foods that are high in protein that I like. I think I like beans better when they aren't cooked so much. I eat mostly raw foods though...like greens and fresh veggies. Do you think nuts and seeds provide enough protein? Love them on my salad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Soybeans (dry) 10 grams protein/ounce Peanuts 7 grams protein/ounce I'd say they give enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Soybeans (dry) 10 grams protein/ounce Peanuts 7 grams protein/ounce I'd say they give enough well I did mention that I can not eat soy. I dont care for peaunts but I do eat almonds and all kinds of seeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I was making a comparison.. 7 out of 10 isn't off by much, though I think other nuts have slightly lower protein ratios. you could try sprouting beans if you dont like to cook them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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