workout music

[kollision]

Sweet Animal, thanks for the tip. That's a lot of records. You sound like a friend that I know who collects vinyls, but they are all 80s. Stuff like The Cure and others. He has over 1000 vinyls (just asked him, he's right here). Seen it too, but dunno how many it actually is since they are in so many crates and some in his attic.

 

Is there a specific name for the "throat thing" that Exhumed does? I knew a guy who did it so perfect (he gave me the cd when I inquired on Gore Metal). Sounds cool, I like it. I can't understand a thing they are saying (apparently he did) but it's cool.

 

The reason I asked about Sex Pistols is because my friend (the one with the vinyls) told me about them awhile back. The song was on and he was telling me what it was all about. So was all their music against the queen though? I know that song was, but not sure about the rest. Were they even Brits or US people speaking against anything democracy (as with most of the western world)?

 

BTW, have you heard of a record store called Amoeba? Has got to be one of the biggest record stores out there. I got a few records from there, and seems like they are really branching out. It's in the US (don't know if they are anywhere else). Where are you from?

[Richard]

Richard: It depends on how involved you are with the subject. To use a cullinary analogy, an omnivore eating some soy products may categorize a lot of things as 'soy meat substitute". But a vegan who eats a lot of that stuff may refer to said items as individual categories. They may dislike processed soy mock meats, but love Tempeh or raw tofu blocks. I breath, eat and s%$t metal, so I tend to be very specific. But if for your purposes these four categories suffice, then more power to ya. But when you discuss these issues with other people, make sure you guys are on the same page. The bands you mentioned as modern punk are really pop-punk. These are boy bands wrapped up in punk aesthetic for marketing.

 

regardless of that, people don't agree about what the genres mean, even the people who listen to what they think is that genre. Like I said, the hardcore thing, if all the definitions I have heard are to be trusted, then it isn't even a genre given that there's such a variety of stuff with basically no relation to each other. On the other hand, if everyone I've talked to has a different definition but only one of them is right, then again, what is the point given that most people have no idea? In this case, you can only really use the words with people who agree with the definition, which isn't very often

[kylie]

Rocky Ball-Blower

 

ahh! lol don't knock the Rock...

I was gettin into your music on that link you got, cool stuff btw, when my computer froze up on me and I had to break out the baseball bat and show it who was boss...for reals now I'm really mad.

 

i've been stuck on Faith No More lately for gettin in the workout mood, Angel Dust and Album of the Year, but it normally varies greatly depending on the day/mood.

[kylie]

I actually have a list of what is on my gym Mp3 player:

 

Fountains of Wayne

The Arcade Fire

Bright Eyes

Clem Snide

The Avalanches

DJ Shadow

Broken Social Scene

Elliot Smith

Mogwai

Godspeed You Black Emporer

The Postal Service

The Weakerthans

Death Cab for Cutie

The Flaming Lips

Mylo

Coldplay

Nick Drake

Pedro The Lion

Sigur Ros

The Sugarcubes

Ben Folds

Weezer

 

pretty good list...listenening to a little Death Cab lately...Pedro the Lion for working out? I haven't listened to The Flaming Lips in a while, thanks for reminding me...you got me on a couple of the others though, I'll have to look into some of em. check out this band http://www.killtheband.com/

[Animal]

 

Is there a specific name for the "throat thing" that Exhumed does? I knew a guy who did it so perfect (he gave me the cd when I inquired on Gore Metal). Sounds cool, I like it. I can't understand a thing they are saying (apparently he did) but it's cool.

 

People who are partial to this kind of vocals refer to them as death grunts or death metal vocals. People who mock the genre refer to them as 'cookie monster vocals'. Personally, I love that stuff, provided that the vokillist has a unique take on the idiom. Some really great ones are Barney from Napalm Death (veg dude and totally demonic sounding, but he enunciates his grunts properly. Plus that cockney brit accent works very well with the angry grunts), and Donald Tardy from Obituary (he sounds like he is vomiting his innards when he sings, very identifiable approach. He has some ecology related sons too).

 

 

The reason I asked about Sex Pistols is because my friend (the one with the vinyls) told me about them awhile back. The song was on and he was telling me what it was all about. So was all their music against the queen though? I know that song was, but not sure about the rest. Were they even Brits or US people speaking against anything democracy (as with most of the western world)?

 

They actually were working class Brits. They were anti-monarchy, which is different from anti-democracy. They touted a lot of anarchist type lyrics, but they werent very informed, it was more like a rebellion for the sake of it. Some kind of wild poverty line nihilism. Unlike some later punk bands that actually were literate and had radical political views. There was only one anti-queen song. Other songs were things like "Anarchy in the UK", "No Future", and such. They had a very interesting history. Their USA tour was a total disaster, since they went south instead of north where their fans were. There is footage of them playing in a country bar, where the bassist told the crowd that cowboys are all homosexuals (he used the derogatory term for that). Next thing you know there was a riot and people came to the stage with chains and clubs. The bassist smashed his bass guitar on somebody's head and things got real ugly real fast The documentary about them is quite entertaining.

 

 

BTW, have you heard of a record store called Amoeba? Has got to be one of the biggest record stores out there. I got a few records from there, and seems like they are really branching out. It's in the US (don't know if they are anywhere else). Where are you from?

 

Never heard of Amoeba. I used to buy a lot of vinyl, but ever since I bought that damned iPod, I sold out and started collecting MP3s. Vinyl is not very portable, sadly.

 

I'm from Toronto, Canada. But I order stuff from those whacky neighbours across the border all the time.

[kollision]

 

They actually were working class Brits. They were anti-monarchy, which is different from anti-democracy. They touted a lot of anarchist type lyrics, but they werent very informed, it was more like a rebellion for the sake of it. Some kind of wild poverty line nihilism. Unlike some later punk bands that actually were literate and had radical political views. There was only one anti-queen song. Other songs were things like "Anarchy in the UK", "No Future", and such. They had a very interesting history. Their USA tour was a total disaster, since they went south instead of north where their fans were. There is footage of them playing in a country bar, where the bassist told the crowd that cowboys are all homosexuals (he used the derogatory term for that). Next thing you know there was a riot and people came to the stage with chains and clubs. The bassist smashed his bass guitar on somebody's head and things got real ugly real fast Smile The documentary about them is quite entertaining.

 

Seems like the type of people that do things just to get feedback?

 

BTW, did they get beaten up?

 

People who are partial to this kind of vocals refer to them as death grunts or death metal vocals. People who mock the genre refer to them as 'cookie monster vocals'. Personally, I love that stuff, provided that the vokillist has a unique take on the idiom. Some really great ones are Barney from Napalm Death (veg dude and totally demonic sounding, but he enunciates his grunts properly. Plus that cockney brit accent works very well with the angry grunts), and Donald Tardy from Obituary (he sounds like he is vomiting his innards when he sings, very identifiable approach. He has some ecology related sons too).

 

Ah thanks for the name! Sounds great.

 

Can you actually understand what they are saying? Can you do it? If so, how did you train for it? It's hard!

 

Never heard of Amoeba. I used to buy a lot of vinyl, but ever since I bought that damned iPod, I sold out and started collecting MP3s. Vinyl is not very portable, sadly.

 

I'm from Toronto, Canada. But I order stuff from those whacky neighbours across the border all the time

 

Vinyl is portable, just transfer them to MP3 format BTW, what type of players do you have?

 

Amoeba is a huge store. If you ever come out here, you definitely need to go there. The one in Hollywood is huge!

 

http://www.amoebamusic.com

[wannalift]

hey animal, you really know your stuff pretty well. my old roomate is the current cattle decapitation drummer. my current roomate runs willowtip records. have you ever listened to circle of dead children? i was the original bass player on the first 2 albums. had to quit so i could focus more on lifting

[kollision]

Give your friend a big HELL O from me. Vegan band. Human mutalation? YAY!

[Animal]

kollision: I'm not sure how that Pistols incident ended. I think they were escorted out of the back door to their bus.

About death metal vox... there is a reason why most of those records come with lyric sheets Once you read it it makes perfect sense when you actually hear the words grunted. I did some vocals and guitars for various side projects in the past. The technique depends on the style. I do mostly raspy thoraty vocals, but many 'singers' I worked with used their diaphragm to get a lower more gut level grunt.

About records... too much effort to transfer them to MP3s. I used to do it, but its too time consuming. I ripped them to wav files through the sound card line in, and ten chopped them into separate tracks, cleaned them up, added MP3 tag data, etc. Too much time spent for a mere mortal. Now I find it easier to look for online torrents of records I already own on vinyl. I use most common audio codecs, including wav, MP3, AAC, and ogg vorbis.

 

wannalist: That's excellent. The new drummer, Michael Laughlin, was the missing link. The old one, Dave Astor was an incredibly fast blaster, but as the band got more complex musically he was a bit too limited. The new guy does some intersting moves and choice fills on Humanure. It really makes the whole album much more organic and interesting. Tell your friend all my Cattle Decap fan friends love his work there.

I've heard one Circle of Dead Children song on a sampler CD from some metal mag. I remember enjoying it, it had some nice blasting modern grind going. I will check out more of that band, definitely.

[wannalift]

animal,

yeah, mike's an extremely fast drummer. good guy as well.

mike's old band "creation is crucifixion" is definitely worth checking out as well. way ahead of their time. you would enjoy their lyrical content as well since it is primarily about techno-theory.

[Holle]

I listen all kind of METAL!

 

[finbarrio]

Man, Animal you sure know yer $h*t.

Ever read "Our Band Could Be Your Life"? I just finished it and I'm curious what other oldskool punk/hc fans think about it.

 

For lifting and boxing/tkd workouts, I always listen to Korn's "Follow the Leader". Been listening to it for years - it's my "Rocky" soundtrack.

 

For mtbiking I always have my mp3 player going, which has anything from a DMB Johnny Cash cover to Starsailor to Mudvayne. For some reason, whenever I'm heading into a tough rock garden or a steep hill, something like Pantera or Deftones will come on to help me rip through it.

[Animal]

Man, Animal you sure know yer $h*t.

Ever read "Our Band Could Be Your Life"? I just finished it and I'm curious what other oldskool punk/hc fans think about it.

 

I've never heard of this book before. I'm checking the reviews now, it looks interesting. My sister recently read "I, shithead", The Joey Shithead (singer, D.O.A.) autobiography. She said it was entertaining. A lot of oldschoolers are coming up with books lately to document the eighties HC movement. It was a great scene.

 

I was listening to some early Earth Crisis while lifting weights yesterday. Besides the angry pounding midpaced rhythms the lyrics really get me pumped up:

 

"Mass-murder, demonic cruelty. Absolute fascism.

To end the enslavement and slaughter, the antidote is veganism.

Don't let your outrage for injustice end where your selfishness begins."

 

Hey, if any musicians from Toronto or the general region are reading this thread, or if you know anyone suitable who is from around here, especially drummers, drop me a line. I'd love to put together an all vegan project. I play lead and rhythm guitars and do background growling vocals. Its hard to find vegan musicians.

[theomen]

Usually the Martian Puppits

[Guest]

A toss up between Moroccan Trance Music and Indonesian Gamelan. I sort of alternate between the two.

 

Although I set a PR on Deadlifts yesterday listening to Anindo Chaterji's "Dreams on Drums," a solo tabla album.

 

I try to set a little different mood when lifting than most people. To me, it's not about brutal, destructive power, but rather about lucid dreaming.

 

Relaxation=Power

[christianpma]

animal: good to see hardcore kids on this forum

 

our band could be your life has some great profiles and stories on bands like flag, minor threat, the minutemen, and more. you should check it out!

if youre interested in learning more about hardcore, also check out AMERICAN HARDCORE, its a great book documenting a lot of awesome bands.

 

lately, my mp3 player has been broken, so ive been listeing to this stuff in my head ( ):

 

HARDCORE:

 

JUDGE

CROMAGS

BAD BRAINS

YOUTH OF TODAY

SHELTER

INFEST

THE FIRST STEP

UNDERDOG

INSIDE OUT

TEAR IT UP

BATTERY (HAHA, ANTI-GYM CORE FOR THE GYM?! WHO KNEW)

MINOR THREAT

DEAD STOP

DEAD NATION

SHARK ATTACK

FLOORPUNCH

GORILLA BISCUITS

VIOLENT MINDS

KRAKDOWN

ABSOLUTION

108

KID DYNAMITE

PAINT IT BLACK

LIFETIME

(LAST THREE BANDS BECAUSE DAN YEMIN IS SO FUCKING RIPPED)

 

HIP HOP:

 

DEAD PREZ

SLICK RICK

IMMORTAL TECH

GZA

 

totally crucial. im not so down with all this metal crap, but i can dig purified in blood from norway. they are vegan and edge and builders. and nice guys. music is my girlfriend and theres no way i can persist on the rowing machine through the full work out without breathing in time to yot's YOUTH CREW. physically strong, morally straight, positive youth, youth of TODAY.

 

for more vegan / veggie core bands, check out:

youth of today, gorilla biscuits, cromags, shelter, 108, etc.

 

"full is all we want to feel

we eat to stay alive,

but instead its life we steal

i think wed like to change

but most of us are stuck

and thats why cats and dogs

have all the luck"

 

"our numbers are doubling in 88

and the people are starting to educate

themselves, their friends, their families

and well have a more conscious caring society"

[Animal]

animal: good to see hardcore kids on this forum

 

I love classic hardcore, but if you looked at my record collection you'd notice that I am first and foremost an oldschool metalhead. I love the complexity and heaviness metal can achieve. Hardcore appeals to me too because of the energy and the mentality. Most metal nowadays and most hardcore are influenced to varying degrees by both genres, directly and indirectly. Most of the younger metal kids who slag hardcore don't realize that the early extreme metal bands that influenced the bands they are listening to were influenced by both metal and punk. I like the political edge of hardcore and the velocities when its fused with death metal. Bands like Napalm Death and Extreme Noise Terror really get me adrenalized.

 

Actually, we should have one of those HC/Deathgrind fests here in Toronto next month. Disfear, Misery index, Mesrine and others. Blast beat mania.

 

if youre interested in learning more about hardcore, also check out AMERICAN HARDCORE, its a great book documenting a lot of awesome bands.

 

Excellent book. I forgot to mention it. For a metal guy still getting to know the genre, this is a great resource.

 

lately, my mp3 player has been broken, so ive been listeing to this stuff in my head ( ):

 

HARDCORE:

 

JUDGE

CROMAGS

BAD BRAINS

YOUTH OF TODAY

SHELTER

INFEST

THE FIRST STEP

UNDERDOG

INSIDE OUT

TEAR IT UP

BATTERY (HAHA, ANTI-GYM CORE FOR THE GYM?! WHO KNEW)

MINOR THREAT

DEAD STOP

DEAD NATION

SHARK ATTACK

FLOORPUNCH

GORILLA BISCUITS

VIOLENT MINDS

KRAKDOWN

ABSOLUTION

108

KID DYNAMITE

PAINT IT BLACK

LIFETIME

(LAST THREE BANDS BECAUSE DAN YEMIN IS SO FUCKING RIPPED)

 

HIP HOP:

 

DEAD PREZ

SLICK RICK

IMMORTAL TECH

GZA

 

I can't stomach hip hop, so I'll skip these. But your HC list has some solid choices, and a lot of bands I've never heard about. Do you like the Underdog vocalist's second band, Into Another?

[SAW]

House music, of course.

[endcruelty]

House music, of course.

 

niiiiice a house junky in the boards

 

but i usually listen to jungle beats usually some deep music will get me fired up as well like some kinda soundtrack to a movie ..... bourne identity and supremacy soundtracks or something

[SAW]

niiiiice a house junky in the boards

 

125 bpm is the beat of life.

[endcruelty]

im up at like 140

[Sean]

I'm wierd, depends on my mood. Some regulars:

Morrissey

Dead Prez

Game

7 Seconds

Bury Your Dead

Dead Kennedys

Throwdown

Youth Of Today

108

Templars

Matisyahu

Jedi Mind Tricks

[Matt]

Def Leppard, hands down. 80's glam rock does it all.

[Animal]

Def Leppard, hands down. 80's glam rock does it all.

 

I don't mind their first two LPs. Later albums became too poppy and commercial for me. The only two glam bands I like are Nitro and Sweet. The sweet mixed their glam with some deep purple like hard rock and had some scary falsetto vocal harmonies. Nitro wrote horrible music, but they could play like nobodies business. Their guitar player, Michael Batio Angelo, is a guitar monster. He used to play a 'quad' guitar, with four necks, and play two necks in synch each time. Freaky.

 

Best attempt at glam by an extreme metal band is the Cold Lake album by Celtic Frost. Its hilarious to see death metal legends trying to be sexy and foxy, but still sounding like a lizard grunting over a sledgehammer. Brilliant.

[VeganEssentials]

The music all depends on the mood and how my day has been going. I'm more of a pre-workout music guy than one who likes to listen to anything when I lift (I find that music breaks my concentration). On the way to the gym, it could be any of the following:

 

Clutch

Archers of Loaf

Descendants

Dinosaur Jr.

Z-Trip

Big Black

Bad Brains

Tuscadero

Jack Dangers

DJ Shadow

DJ P

Fugazi

Sugar

Pixies

MF Doom

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds

Cut Chemist

Versus

Sebadoh

Built to Spill

Belle & Sebastian

Pet Shop Boys

Slayer

DJ Spooky

Edan

Viktor Vaughn

...and tons of other stuff. All depends on the handful of CDs I grab on my way out and what sounds good on the way to lift!