belleadonna Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Well, I am trying it again. Yesterday I went 100% raw. I am taking it one day at a time. I have tried this before and only lasted 10 days. I will try and keep you up to date on my progress. Later- I have to go to work. See ya!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanders77 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 All the best for your try! If you need support: don't hesitate to ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks Flanders!! I just started a blog in the blog section if you want to read it. All suggestions, comments are welcome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean and Green Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Same here, it's a long road but one worth taking. <-- fellow raw foodist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Great. Hope we all can make this journey together!!How long have you two been raw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean and Green Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 been all raw since bday (my gift to myself); dec 21, 06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Wow, that's awesome lean and green. What a great birthday gift. Hope I can stay raw for as long as you have and longer!!Off to make some green lemonade and then to work. See ya later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andesuma Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I would recommend transitioning.You lose your appetite for cooked foods, you don't stress yourbody out as much with one BIG transition, you don't feel deprived. And don't be too hard on yourself for slipping up, etc. Going 100% completely is tough, (unless you're getting daily colonics forwell over a month or more to clear out the debri..) You're also setting yourself up for deficiencies, (if you haven't researched enough, whichcan take years..) Not to mention putting your body under ENORMOUSstress. (even more so, if you keep going back and forth) I recommend looking into works by Dr.Fred Bisci and Frederic Patanaude.also.. read, read, read, learn, know.. experience Just some advice.. from a fellow rawie, for over 4 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 Andesuma,I am already a week into this. Unfortunately, I have an addictive type of personalilty and if I tried to transition with cooked food, I would not stay raw. I have been vegan before and partially raw. I used to eat 85% raw. So my detox has been close to none except for some tiredness. I am trying to eat a good variety to get all of my nutrients. I am reading raw books. I have quite a few. I am taking Herbal Fiberblend to clean out my colon. I have used it before with success. I only use it every other day or so because it can be kind of rough using it everyday. So I also use Psyllium Husk on the other days. Thanks for the advice. I am listening to my body. I am keeping a blog if you want to follow it too. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 So, you are averaging only 1400 calories a day and you attribute tiredness to detox? Just curious on your outlook about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well I'm just not hungry for more right now. I have always suffered from fatigue even when I ate alot of calories. I feel much more energized today. I believe that most of my fatigue is from coming off of caffeine. As I wrote in my blog, I was doing 2 energy drinks a day and 5 mugs of coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well I'm just not hungry for more right now. I have always suffered from fatigue even when I ate alot of calories. I feel much more energized today. I believe that most of my fatigue is from coming off of caffeine. As I wrote in my blog, I was doing 2 energy drinks a day and 5 mugs of coffee. Oh, cool. I had no problems with energy when I was raw...Cutting the caffeine addiction is tough. Stay strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 I'm hanging strong bud!! Thanks. I was a real caffeine junkie. At least this time I only suffered one debilitating headache from withdrawal. The rest has been fatigue. I feel strong when I lift though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andesuma Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Andesuma,I am already a week into this. Unfortunately, I have an addictive type of personalilty and if I tried to transition with cooked food, I would not stay raw. I have been vegan before and partially raw. I used to eat 85% raw. So my detox has been close to none except for some tiredness. I am trying to eat a good variety to get all of my nutrients. I am reading raw books. I have quite a few. I am taking Herbal Fiberblend to clean out my colon. I have used it before with success. I only use it every other day or so because it can be kind of rough using it everyday. So I also use Psyllium Husk on the other days. Thanks for the advice. I am listening to my body. I am keeping a blog if you want to follow it too. Thanks again. Well it definitely sounds like you are very prepared! My admiration in thatrespect. (I only had two raw vegan books when I was making the transition..) The information can be overwhelming.And I am STILL learning new things to this day, and I've beenconsistently raw for several YEARS. That is good you are listening to your body and doing what youfeel is best. However if anything was truly a "success" you wouldn'tbe doing this again..I already thought you might have an addictive personality, thatis so great that you know that, and are in tune with yourself enoughto know that! May I simply suggest re-reading what I already posted. Because you don't know if you'll still be "addicted" to cooked if you'venever even tried to do a full transition. Also, herbal cleanses/fiberblends are a completely different world,compared to colon hydrotherapy. Also, I want to add that I am still going deeper within myself, and experiencing detox, even after a LIFETIME of beingvegetarian, vegan for 14 yrs., and raw now for 4. ... Good Luck to you dear! You have my support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 May I simply suggest re-reading what I already posted. Because you don't know if you'll still be "addicted" to cooked if you've never even tried to do a full transition. Also, herbal cleanses/fiberblends are a completely different world, compared to colon hydrotherapy. Andesuma, not sure what you mean by the first sentence. Also, I am not in a position to do colon hydrotherapy. First of all, I live in the sticks and second of all is the expense. We are living on a retirement income. I am not really finding myself hungry for cooked foods and it is even starting to smell bad everytime my husband cooks something or I cook something for him. I am sure that cravings will come but I need to learn how to say NO to some things. I have been addicted to alcohol, drugs, and caffeine in my life. God has helped me to kick those things and I am looking to Him to help me with this too. Thanks for the encouragement and imput. I appreciate it. It's good to know that I have people on my side. I am reading Doug Graham's 80/10/10 right now. Good book. I like his thoughts on how some raw fooders are basically substituting raw high fat treats for the junk they ate as cooked fooders. I wondered about that as I peruse the raw food boards. My word, the use of oils, chocolate, coconut, and nuts is overwhelming. I am trying to keep it simple. One thing on my side is that I have always loved fruits and veggies. Even as a kid I would prefer to sit down to a bowl of peaches than a sweet dessert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogh_me Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I am reading Doug Graham's 80/10/10 right now. Good book. I like his thoughts on how some raw fooders are basically substituting raw high fat treats for the junk they ate as cooked fooders. I wondered about that as I peruse the raw food boards. My word, the use of oils, chocolate, coconut, and nuts is overwhelming. I am trying to keep it simple. One thing on my side is that I have always loved fruits and veggies. Even as a kid I would prefer to sit down to a bowl of peaches than a sweet dessert. Some people do a lot better not eating much sweet fruit and rather opting for a higher fat diet, so you are going to see some rawies eating significant amounts of oil, olive, avocados and nuts. There are books on this perspective as well if you would like to read them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 I do just great on sweet fruits, thanks. I also eat/juice/blend alot of greens. I don't like a high fat diet. I have enough fat on me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean and Green Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 You know, it's truly funny how the body changes. About a year ago, Fat was my bestest friend. The more I ate, it seemed, the leaner I would stay. Nuts, seeds, oils, avos, coconuts, etc etc.... Carbs, complex or simple, Grains and fruits would stick to me for some oddwhat reason. Nowadays it is quite the contrary for me. For some reason, whatever fat I consume, goes against my energy levels and keeps the weight on. Good for bulking up muscle, I suppose but bad for me right now because I want to lean out and lose weight. Yet when I consume more grains and fruits, the energy levels are steady, I burn more efficiently and I maintain a lower bodyweight. I don't get it........... It's a pain in the butt adjusting because I am used to a diet primarily very high in fats and now I have to change it up or I won't shed any weight. It's a shame because I love fats, o well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floopy Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I would recommend transitioning.You lose your appetite for cooked foods, you don't stress yourbody out as much with one BIG transition, you don't feel deprived. And don't be too hard on yourself for slipping up, etc. Going 100% completely is tough, (unless you're getting daily colonics forwell over a month or more to clear out the debri..) You're also setting yourself up for deficiencies, (if you haven't researched enough, whichcan take years..) Not to mention putting your body under ENORMOUSstress. (even more so, if you keep going back and forth) I recommend looking into works by Dr.Fred Bisci and Frederic Patanaude.also.. read, read, read, learn, know.. experience Just some advice.. from a fellow rawie, for over 4 years now ^^^ That really good advice.I was raw for about 6months.Its felt good at first but after 4months or so my body started going hay wire.Dislocated Knee,got really really skinny,lost of strength,low energy.Not to discourage you but everyones body is different,and it works for some and it doesn't for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 I know that everyone's body is different. That is why I am seeking what is best for my own. I try not to read too much stuff because there is too much conflicting info out there. I am on a course now and I am going forward. I am gaining strength and the weight is coming off slowly. The first week was probably water weight coming off. I am not sure what a dislocated knee has to do with being raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganKost Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 This is my 24th day being all raw...and I've had a dislocated knee since around day 8. I feel excellent so far...I hope that I don't start to experience any adverse side-effects like some people do. I feel that my diet is nutritious enough to support me. And as belleadonna said, there is a LOT of conflicting info out there. Almost impossible to figure out what to do, so it's all a personal journey of finding out what works best and what doesn't. I'm trying to gain weight, but when I add a lot of fats to my diet my stomach doesn't seem to like it too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floopy Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 This is my 24th day being all raw...and I've had a dislocated knee since around day 8. I feel excellent so far...I hope that I don't start to experience any adverse side-effects like some people do. I feel that my diet is nutritious enough to support me. And as belleadonna said, there is a LOT of conflicting info out there. Almost impossible to figure out what to do, so it's all a personal journey of finding out what works best and what doesn't. I'm trying to gain weight, but when I add a lot of fats to my diet my stomach doesn't seem to like it too much!I tried gaining weight also,i ate tons of avacadoes,pumpkin seeds,almonds,walnuts,it still didn't work I was around 125lbs before going raw.Then after being raw i was 110lbs which is kinda weird for someone being 5'9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MShoulerUK Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I am reading Doug Graham's 80/10/10 right now. Good book. I like his thoughts on how some raw fooders are basically substituting raw high fat treats for the junk they ate as cooked fooders. I wondered about that as I peruse the raw food boards. My word, the use of oils, chocolate, coconut, and nuts is overwhelming. I am trying to keep it simple. One thing on my side is that I have always loved fruits and veggies. Even as a kid I would prefer to sit down to a bowl of peaches than a sweet dessert. Some people do a lot better not eating much sweet fruit and rather opting for a higher fat diet, so you are going to see some rawies eating significant amounts of oil, olive, avocados and nuts. There are books on this perspective as well if you would like to read them too. I'd be interested, always interested on the high fat vs low fat debate. Some people on raw food diet get into serious problems eating too much fat, and other people seem to eat loads without a problem. My 2nd day Raw today, and I hope to bulk up after the detox. Been trying to go Raw for a while now but the detox sucks big time and keep eating cooked food to stop the crazy detox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganKost Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Yeah, I've been adding a lot of pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, avacados, coconut oil, almond butter and peanut butter to my diet. Since it's so early in my raw journey I can't really see if I'm gaining any weight. I only lost about 5 pounds throughout the whole transition so far, which seems relatively low. So I'm assuming I'm getting enough calories. I'm 6'2 and only 145 pounds, and I can't eat much. So it's difficult for me to gain weight period. Even when eating cooked food. It would be nice if there was some concrete guidelines for a raw diet, but it really is completely subjective. I hope you can keep it up belleadonna, and MSshoulerUK, you'll be happy you pushed through the detox once it's finally over . This is my second time trying all raw, and I haven't experienced much detox symptoms yet. But the first time I tried I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian and the detox symptoms going to raw from that were pretty terrible. So much so I didn't proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Those of you trying to gain weight should really read Doug Grahams book. He gets athletes to gain weight on a 10% fat diet. High fat is really not good for us whether we are eating raw or eating SAD. Good luck to everyone going raw and seeking to stay raw. It's a journey and we all need to encourage one another. Good health first!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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