blimp2pimp Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hello Everyone. I have never been a Vegan so this will be my first time. I will be starting this new WOL on Monday but thought I would stop in introduce myself and get some quick advice on my Meal Plans. I live in SoCal and love to be outdoors and playing golf which has been really hard now with all the weight I have put on and my unhealthy habits. Last year I traveled a lot and with that come unhealthy habits of eating and drinking way too much. I was literally killing myself and for what? I have had the problem of working out for a while then failing or having to go on travel but now have decided to quit with all the freaking excuses and take care of me. Believe me my life has been full of excuses why not to do this and that. I recently had my BF% done as was at 29% and I am currently on meds for cholesterol and weigh 261 not a good combo of anything. I have been reading eat to live as my first book on staying away from meat and dairy. My eyes were really opened to the dangers of eating like that. I was shocked to say the least. My short term goal is to loose 10% of this BF and to get off of meds for goodMy long term is to get down to 5% and then bulk up and to never be on meds again. I have always had a huge problem with doctors and the government pushing meds on people to treat the problem not the cause. I guess I was just another one of those suckers not no more. Anyway I will be doing some upside down training to stabilize and put more emphasis on smaller muscles before I hit it hard on my fat loss program. This program is no slouch by any means. I will post this a little later. 4 days a week of lifting with cardio and HIIT Here is my meal plans which will use a 3:1 zigzagging method. I did all the long math formulas to find my TDEE but decided to use a more general rule instead as it workout out perfectly. I am trying to stick to most of the Eat to Live methods however I added more calories and Oatmeal. I will also start a blog with this info daily as well and get into more detail Days 1-3 bodyweight x 102610 Calories Meal 1 0415Protein GNC Soy unflavoredOatmealbox of raisinsNatural Peanut ButterBarleans 3,6,9 Blend 0700Protein GNC Soy unflavoredOatmealbox of raisinsNatural Peanut ButterApple 0930Protein GNC Soy unflavoredPinto BeansAppleSalad which I don’t count in my calories? (lettuce all types, cucumber, carrots, tomatoes, celery) 1200Protein GNC Soy unflavoredPinto BeansAppleSalad 1500Protein GNC Soy unflavoredSalad 1800Protein GNC Soy unflavoredSaladBarleans 3,6,9 Blend I am also using carb tapering during the day as well Day 4 3132 Calories Meal 1 0415Protein GNC Soy unflavoredOatmealbox of raisinsNatural Peanut ButterBarleans 3,6,9 Blend 0700Protein GNC Soy unflavoredOatmealbox of raisinsNatural Peanut ButterApple 0930Protein GNC Soy unflavoredPinto BeansAppleSalad which I don’t count in my calories? (lettuce all types, cucumber, carrots, tomatoes, celery) 1200Protein GNC Soy unflavoredPinto BeansAppleSalad 1500Protein GNC Soy unflavoredSaladBanana 1800Protein GNC Soy unflavoredSaladBananaBarleans 3,6,9 Blend For now I am trying to stay as raw as I can. I will eat mostly the same things over and over just different ratios till I learn more about this WOL Sorry this is long winded. I hope to learn so much more from everyone and hope I can contribute to the wonderful group you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Welcome! Great to have you here! It took me about 20 seconds to figure out what WOL is but I think it is Way Of Life Great to have you here, thanks for the awesome intro. Have fun! All the best and welcome aboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Welcome!! It looks like you have everything planned out very well. I look forward to hearing about your progress. BEfore long, we'll just be calling you "pimp." Best of luck!!! By the way, I like your sig. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeVegan Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Welcome to the forums! -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the warm welcome. I also wanted to mention that I started Dr. Natura's colon and toxin cleansing programs that are about three months long as well. This might throw my measurements off a bit but I will be alot healthier once I get rid of waste, toxins and any other things that do not belong in my body. Edited February 21, 2008 by blimp2pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Welcome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Thanks for the warm welcome. I also wanted to mention that I started Dr. Natura's colon and toxin cleansing programs that are about three months long as well. This might throw my measurements off a bit but I will be alot healthier once I get rid of waste, toxins and any other things that do not belong in my body. I've always wondered if those toxin cleansing programs really provide any benefit. What are your thoughts, Pimp? I may just start a thread about this... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmNY Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Congratulations on making the commitment to your health. Especially with weight and cholesterol a concern, I would highly recommend Dr Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live." As a vegan for a few year, I thought I would pass on reading it but, recently picked it up. It's already inspiring me to eat healthier. Invaluable information. Best of luck and welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 [quote name=I've always wondered if those toxin cleansing programs really provide any benefit. What are your thoughts' date=' Pimp? I may just start a thread about this... [/quote] Mike- I am not really sure about all cleansing programs. I saw some that were a 7 day and thought that would just be too much time spent on the john. I did the research on this one as it was the number one selling detox around. I read all the testimonials as gross as some of them were. I decided this would be more casual and it has been working. It is a three month program. Start a thread I would be interested to see what everyone has to say about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 Congratulations on making the commitment to your health. Especially with weight and cholesterol a concern, I would highly recommend Dr Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live." As a vegan for a few year, I thought I would pass on reading it but, recently picked it up. It's already inspiring me to eat healthier. Invaluable information. Best of luck and welcome! David I am looking forward to this. I have been reading this book as well it is very good and my program is based on this. Except for a few things that I do not agree on. One being a low calorie diet especially as my goals are to loose fat not muscle. My goal after that will be to bulk up which certainly cannot be done at a low calorie rate. Second I added oatmeal and soy protein everyday to keep my intake up. I did comtemplate doing his 6 week plan for some extreme weight loss but I would not want to do it with what I know about crash diets and muscle loss. In that extreme diet there is no way one could keep muscle its impossible to loose that much weight without water loss and muscle so I decided to follow 80% percent of it and get a little slower fat loss while I am learning this new way of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodhiDave85 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hey, Im lovin the name! Your plan looks great, but your diet looks boring. If it works to you, props, its a good diet to begin with. I'd highly reccomend a little more variety in fruits and veggies. Hope to see you around the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Welcome to the forum Personally a boring diet helped me lose weight the most. If you buy fun foods they you want to eat more of them. If you eat simple...then maybe you won't be so tempted for seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodhiDave85 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) Welcome to the forum Personally a boring diet helped me lose weight the most. If you buy fun foods they you want to eat more of them. If you eat simple...then maybe you won't be so tempted for seconds. Oh, i completely agree I have a SUPER BORING diet compared to most people. All im saying is a little kale or chard, maybe some melons, grapes, mangoes..wouldnt hurt anybody. Edited February 22, 2008 by BodhiDave85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 Interesting and I think i will add some grapes (I love grapes) later they just did not fit into my ratios right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I am now thinking of abanding my meal plan all together and following eat to live 100%. This goes against everything I know or thought I knew. Actually I dont know jack sh** because I have never stuck to a plan long enough to say I know that. I have read a sh** load but I dont know anything. HMMMMM. Here is the jiist of the Eat to Live planBreakfastLunchDinner Eat 1 pound of raw and 1 pound of cooked veg per day - Not too hard1 oz nuts onlyFruitsLegumes Except for the nuts the rest are unlimited. My main focus is to get rid of the fat ASAP. So lots of cardio I would do The three meals a day still has me though. I am still reading the book almost done. maybe this would ease me gently into eating this way but at the same time I could loose a butt load of weight. It is a 6 week program. It sure as hell beats what I eat now. Nothing but crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean and Green Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Welcome, Sorry it took so long to say hello but I when I saw 'pimp' on the intro I thought it was one of those people that flame here and there but then I looked at the whole name and said to myself WOW what a great name, it really ROCKS! So here i am to say congrats on your aggressive and noteworthy steps to a healthy and active lifestyle. Your body is probably thanking you so much right now. Anyway, I agree with both Bohdi and Potter in regards to your diet. A boring diet can be mundane but it depends on the person. A very rigid strict person will find it provides the discipline they need to make it happen. It keeps everything uniform. For a person who desires variety, it can make them feel unsatisfied and want to binge out. It seems like you are the type who likes discipline and uniformity, nothing wrong with that. It has worked for me in the past and I harbor a very similar attitude, especially during crucial times. I say, stick with it for awhile and let up a month later and allow a change here and there just to keep yourself satisfied and interested in what you eat. But that all depends on you. As far as the herbal cleanse, I believe it was belleadonna, another member who recommended the same one far as I have heard here. It is sparking my interest but i've never tried them. For me, I love my good old enema bag and colonics as well. But to each his own. For some, these methods are invasive and for others they are irreplaceable. I'm sure you'll find success with the herbal one if you go that route. See you in the forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 Thanks for the welcome everyone and sorry if my user name offended anyone that was not my intent but more of how I want to overally be. A lean mean machine like I was in the Marine Corps back in 96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean and Green Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 no no no please don't feel that way. Your name is awesome. It's just over the past 5 days, there was some genius in the intro sections posting all sorts of porn to spam the forum so I just misinterpreted it. When I actually read the name, it didn't even take more than a second to realize how cool it was. It is not in the slightest bit offensive, don't even stress it. With that past experience i'm sure you'll have no problem getting on track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 NP I just did not want anyone else reading this to be offended by that so I threw that out there. I was reading the post about the Vegan club in Portland and did not want to come off as a pig.LOL In my menus I will be consuming about 350 400 grams of soy protein a day. I know this has probably been discussed but is this way too much soy? I am trying to find something to up my protein without adding carbs and fat Any suggestions something I can pick up at a local health store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lean and Green Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Wow alot of protein, I love it. Some feel it is too much, I personally do well on high protein when I train really hard. If i'm complacent it doesn't feel good but on an active lifestyle go for it. You could switch it up. Go for some Hemp Protein, Pea Protein, Spirulina and Chlorella, Seaweed. I never saw the pea protein in the health food store, personally though but hemp should be no problem. But in the amounts you are consuming, I would highly recommend you get bulk online otherwise you are going to be paying way too much and will have dozens of containers to use. Manitoba Harvest makes a 25 Gallon drum of Hemp Protein that sells online for around $200. It's worth it. Just type it into your search engine. Pea protein isn't really what I go for but I believe it's great stuff and people here say they get it in bulk from Trueprotein.com Algaes and seaweeds are not the easiest to stomach in bulk but if you want to condition your body to acclimate itself to them, I feel they are the best stuff possible to consume as far as supplementation. I'd just take a little at a time and get it at your local store and if you decide for bulk, pm me and i'll give you my source, it's reputable and fair but you need to get 50lbs min. seaweeds in bulk are from seaveg.com dulse tasyes the best. Seagrass is the worst. Every other one is in the middle. Kelp can be a bit too salty to stomach, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmNY Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Congratulations on making the commitment to your health. Especially with weight and cholesterol a concern, I would highly recommend Dr Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live." As a vegan for a few year, I thought I would pass on reading it but, recently picked it up. It's already inspiring me to eat healthier. Invaluable information. Best of luck and welcome! David I am looking forward to this. I have been reading this book as well it is very good and my program is based on this. Except for a few things that I do not agree on. One being a low calorie diet especially as my goals are to loose fat not muscle. My goal after that will be to bulk up which certainly cannot be done at a low calorie rate. Second I added oatmeal and soy protein everyday to keep my intake up. I did comtemplate doing his 6 week plan for some extreme weight loss but I would not want to do it with what I know about crash diets and muscle loss. In that extreme diet there is no way one could keep muscle its impossible to loose that much weight without water loss and muscle so I decided to follow 80% percent of it and get a little slower fat loss while I am learning this new way of life. Very cool. I'm in the same boat. Before Eat to Live, I started lowering calories to lose fat. In a short amount of time, we started measuring muscle loss so, back up with the calories but, still eating clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimp2pimp Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 Very cool. I'm in the same boat. Before Eat to Live, I started lowering calories to lose fat. In a short amount of time, we started measuring muscle loss so, back up with the calories but, still eating clean. David are you following the Eat to Live plan now or just eating clean with an uptake of calories. I want to follow the Eat to Live plan but I will have to change it a bit to keep calories up and also I will be eating 6 meals a day instead of the three that are suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Blimp2pimp wrote: "Mike- I am not really sure about all cleansing programs. I saw some that were a 7 day and thought that would just be too much time spent on the john. I did the research on this one as it was the number one selling detox around. I read all the testimonials as gross as some of them were. I decided this would be more casual and it has been working. It is a three month program. Start a thread I would be interested to see what everyone has to say about it" I started a thread about this in Health and Nutrition if you want to get in on it... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Hello & Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Welcome! I am following the Eat to Live plan mostly. I supplement with a small amount of pea protein. I would recommend going fairly heavy on the beans and green veggies for a protein boost. Also, I agree on the hemp protein. I buy it in the form of hemp flour from: http://www.herbalhut.comIt is cheaper that way per gram of protein, but there is a lot of fiber in it, which may take some getting used to. Also, I like to use some TVP and nutritional yeast to up my protein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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