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Hello Everyone.

 

I have never been a Vegan so this will be my first time.

 

I will be starting this new WOL on Monday but thought I would stop in introduce myself and get some quick advice on my Meal Plans.

 

I live in SoCal and love to be outdoors and playing golf which has been really hard now with all the weight I have put on and my unhealthy habits.

 

Last year I traveled a lot and with that come unhealthy habits of eating and drinking way too much. I was literally killing myself and for what?

 

I have had the problem of working out for a while then failing or having to go on travel but now have decided to quit with all the freaking excuses and take care of me. Believe me my life has been full of excuses why not to do this and that.

 

I recently had my BF% done as was at 29% and I am currently on meds for cholesterol and weigh 261 not a good combo of anything. I have been reading eat to live as my first book on staying away from meat and dairy. My eyes were really opened to the dangers of eating like that. I was shocked to say the least.

 

My short term goal is to loose 10% of this BF and to get off of meds for good

My long term is to get down to 5% and then bulk up and to never be on meds again. I have always had a huge problem with doctors and the government pushing meds on people to treat the problem not the cause. I guess I was just another one of those suckers not no more.

 

Anyway I will be doing some upside down training to stabilize and put more emphasis on smaller muscles before I hit it hard on my fat loss program. This program is no slouch by any means. I will post this a little later. 4 days a week of lifting with cardio and HIIT

 

Here is my meal plans which will use a 3:1 zigzagging method.

 

I did all the long math formulas to find my TDEE but decided to use a more general rule instead as it workout out perfectly. I am trying to stick to most of the Eat to Live methods however I added more calories and Oatmeal. I will also start a blog with this info daily as well and get into more detail

 

Days 1-3 bodyweight x 10

2610 Calories

 

Meal 1

 

0415

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Oatmeal

box of raisins

Natural Peanut Butter

Barleans 3,6,9 Blend

 

0700

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Oatmeal

box of raisins

Natural Peanut Butter

Apple

 

0930

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Pinto Beans

Apple

Salad which I don’t count in my calories? (lettuce all types, cucumber, carrots, tomatoes, celery)

 

1200

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Pinto Beans

Apple

Salad

 

1500

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Salad

 

1800

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Salad

Barleans 3,6,9 Blend

 

I am also using carb tapering during the day as well

 

Day 4

 

3132 Calories

 

Meal 1

 

0415

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Oatmeal

box of raisins

Natural Peanut Butter

Barleans 3,6,9 Blend

 

0700

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Oatmeal

box of raisins

Natural Peanut Butter

Apple

 

0930

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Pinto Beans

Apple

Salad which I don’t count in my calories? (lettuce all types, cucumber, carrots, tomatoes, celery)

 

1200

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Pinto Beans

Apple

Salad

 

1500

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Salad

Banana

 

1800

Protein GNC Soy unflavored

Salad

Banana

Barleans 3,6,9 Blend

 

For now I am trying to stay as raw as I can. I will eat mostly the same things over and over just different ratios till I learn more about this WOL

 

Sorry this is long winded. I hope to learn so much more from everyone and hope I can contribute to the wonderful group you have

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Thanks for the warm welcome.

 

I also wanted to mention that I started Dr. Natura's colon and toxin cleansing programs that are about three months long as well. This might throw my measurements off a bit but I will be alot healthier once I get rid of waste, toxins and any other things that do not belong in my body.

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Thanks for the warm welcome.

 

I also wanted to mention that I started Dr. Natura's colon and toxin cleansing programs that are about three months long as well. This might throw my measurements off a bit but I will be alot healthier once I get rid of waste, toxins and any other things that do not belong in my body.

 

I've always wondered if those toxin cleansing programs really provide any benefit. What are your thoughts, Pimp? I may just start a thread about this...

 

Mike

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Congratulations on making the commitment to your health. Especially with weight and cholesterol a concern, I would highly recommend Dr Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live." As a vegan for a few year, I thought I would pass on reading it but, recently picked it up. It's already inspiring me to eat healthier. Invaluable information.

 

Best of luck and welcome!

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I've always wondered if those toxin cleansing programs really provide any benefit. What are your thoughts' date=' Pimp? I may just start a thread about this...

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Mike- I am not really sure about all cleansing programs. I saw some that were a 7 day and thought that would just be too much time spent on the john.

 

I did the research on this one as it was the number one selling detox around. I read all the testimonials as gross as some of them were. I decided this would be more casual and it has been working. It is a three month program.

 

Start a thread I would be interested to see what everyone has to say about it

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Congratulations on making the commitment to your health. Especially with weight and cholesterol a concern, I would highly recommend Dr Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live." As a vegan for a few year, I thought I would pass on reading it but, recently picked it up. It's already inspiring me to eat healthier. Invaluable information.

 

Best of luck and welcome!

 

David

 

I am looking forward to this. I have been reading this book as well it is very good and my program is based on this. Except for a few things that I do not agree on.

 

One being a low calorie diet especially as my goals are to loose fat not muscle. My goal after that will be to bulk up which certainly cannot be done at a low calorie rate.

 

Second I added oatmeal and soy protein everyday to keep my intake up.

 

I did comtemplate doing his 6 week plan for some extreme weight loss but I would not want to do it with what I know about crash diets and muscle loss.

 

In that extreme diet there is no way one could keep muscle its impossible to loose that much weight without water loss and muscle so I decided to follow 80% percent of it and get a little slower fat loss while I am learning this new way of life.

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Welcome to the forum Personally a boring diet helped me lose weight the most. If you buy fun foods they you want to eat more of them. If you eat simple...then maybe you won't be so tempted for seconds.

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Welcome to the forum Personally a boring diet helped me lose weight the most. If you buy fun foods they you want to eat more of them. If you eat simple...then maybe you won't be so tempted for seconds.

 

Oh, i completely agree I have a SUPER BORING diet compared to most people. All im saying is a little kale or chard, maybe some melons, grapes, mangoes..wouldnt hurt anybody.

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I am now thinking of abanding my meal plan all together and following eat to live 100%. This goes against everything I know or thought I knew. Actually I dont know jack sh** because I have never stuck to a plan long enough to say I know that. I have read a sh** load but I dont know anything. HMMMMM.

 

Here is the jiist of the Eat to Live plan

Breakfast

Lunch

Dinner

 

Eat 1 pound of raw and 1 pound of cooked veg per day - Not too hard

1 oz nuts only

Fruits

Legumes

 

Except for the nuts the rest are unlimited.

 

My main focus is to get rid of the fat ASAP. So lots of cardio I would do

 

The three meals a day still has me though.

 

I am still reading the book almost done.

 

maybe this would ease me gently into eating this way but at the same time I could loose a butt load of weight. It is a 6 week program. It sure as hell beats what I eat now. Nothing but crap

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Welcome,

 

Sorry it took so long to say hello but I when I saw 'pimp' on the intro I thought it was one of those people that flame here and there but then I looked at the whole name and said to myself WOW what a great name, it really ROCKS!

 

So here i am to say congrats on your aggressive and noteworthy steps to a healthy and active lifestyle. Your body is probably thanking you so much right now.

 

Anyway, I agree with both Bohdi and Potter in regards to your diet. A boring diet can be mundane but it depends on the person. A very rigid strict person will find it provides the discipline they need to make it happen. It keeps everything uniform. For a person who desires variety, it can make them feel unsatisfied and want to binge out.

 

It seems like you are the type who likes discipline and uniformity, nothing wrong with that. It has worked for me in the past and I harbor a very similar attitude, especially during crucial times. I say, stick with it for awhile and let up a month later and allow a change here and there just to keep yourself satisfied and interested in what you eat. But that all depends on you.

 

As far as the herbal cleanse, I believe it was belleadonna, another member who recommended the same one far as I have heard here. It is sparking my interest but i've never tried them.

 

For me, I love my good old enema bag and colonics as well. But to each his own. For some, these methods are invasive and for others they are irreplaceable. I'm sure you'll find success with the herbal one if you go that route.

 

See you in the forums!

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no no no please don't feel that way. Your name is awesome. It's just over the past 5 days, there was some genius in the intro sections posting all sorts of porn to spam the forum so I just misinterpreted it.

 

When I actually read the name, it didn't even take more than a second to realize how cool it was.

 

It is not in the slightest bit offensive, don't even stress it.

 

With that past experience i'm sure you'll have no problem getting on track!

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NP I just did not want anyone else reading this to be offended by that so I threw that out there. I was reading the post about the Vegan club in Portland and did not want to come off as a pig.LOL

 

In my menus I will be consuming about 350 400 grams of soy protein a day.

 

I know this has probably been discussed but is this way too much soy?

 

I am trying to find something to up my protein without adding carbs and fat

 

Any suggestions something I can pick up at a local health store?

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Wow alot of protein, I love it. Some feel it is too much, I personally do well on high protein when I train really hard. If i'm complacent it doesn't feel good but on an active lifestyle go for it.

 

You could switch it up.

 

Go for some Hemp Protein, Pea Protein, Spirulina and Chlorella, Seaweed.

 

I never saw the pea protein in the health food store, personally though but hemp should be no problem.

 

But in the amounts you are consuming, I would highly recommend you get bulk online otherwise you are going to be paying way too much and will have dozens of containers to use.

 

Manitoba Harvest makes a 25 Gallon drum of Hemp Protein that sells online for around $200. It's worth it. Just type it into your search engine.

 

Pea protein isn't really what I go for but I believe it's great stuff and people here say they get it in bulk from Trueprotein.com

 

Algaes and seaweeds are not the easiest to stomach in bulk but if you want to condition your body to acclimate itself to them, I feel they are the best stuff possible to consume as far as supplementation. I'd just take a little at a time and get it at your local store and if you decide for bulk, pm me and i'll give you my source, it's reputable and fair but you need to get 50lbs min.

 

seaweeds in bulk are from seaveg.com dulse tasyes the best. Seagrass is the worst. Every other one is in the middle. Kelp can be a bit too salty to stomach, though.

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Congratulations on making the commitment to your health. Especially with weight and cholesterol a concern, I would highly recommend Dr Fuhrman's book "Eat To Live." As a vegan for a few year, I thought I would pass on reading it but, recently picked it up. It's already inspiring me to eat healthier. Invaluable information.

 

Best of luck and welcome!

 

David

 

I am looking forward to this. I have been reading this book as well it is very good and my program is based on this. Except for a few things that I do not agree on.

 

One being a low calorie diet especially as my goals are to loose fat not muscle. My goal after that will be to bulk up which certainly cannot be done at a low calorie rate.

 

Second I added oatmeal and soy protein everyday to keep my intake up.

 

I did comtemplate doing his 6 week plan for some extreme weight loss but I would not want to do it with what I know about crash diets and muscle loss.

 

In that extreme diet there is no way one could keep muscle its impossible to loose that much weight without water loss and muscle so I decided to follow 80% percent of it and get a little slower fat loss while I am learning this new way of life.

 

Very cool. I'm in the same boat. Before Eat to Live, I started lowering calories to lose fat. In a short amount of time, we started measuring muscle loss so, back up with the calories but, still eating clean.

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Very cool. I'm in the same boat. Before Eat to Live, I started lowering calories to lose fat. In a short amount of time, we started measuring muscle loss so, back up with the calories but, still eating clean.

 

David are you following the Eat to Live plan now or just eating clean with an uptake of calories. I want to follow the Eat to Live plan but I will have to change it a bit to keep calories up and also I will be eating 6 meals a day instead of the three that are suggested.

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Blimp2pimp wrote:

 

"Mike- I am not really sure about all cleansing programs. I saw some that were a 7 day and thought that would just be too much time spent on the john.

 

I did the research on this one as it was the number one selling detox around. I read all the testimonials as gross as some of them were. I decided this would be more casual and it has been working. It is a three month program.

 

Start a thread I would be interested to see what everyone has to say about it"

 

I started a thread about this in Health and Nutrition if you want to get in on it...

 

Mike

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Welcome! I am following the Eat to Live plan mostly. I supplement with a small amount of pea protein. I would recommend going fairly heavy on the beans and green veggies for a protein boost. Also, I agree on the hemp protein. I buy it in the form of hemp flour from: http://www.herbalhut.com

It is cheaper that way per gram of protein, but there is a lot of fiber in it, which may take some getting used to. Also, I like to use some TVP and nutritional yeast to up my protein.

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