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Awesome pictures, you look really strong indeed. Keep right on!

Just to offer an alternative - I would say I only get sore when I change program or do something a bit different. During a phase where I'm doing the same exercises and upping the weights I rarely get sore. As long as I'm getting stronger I don't think it matters. I don't rate soreness as a barometer of progress. That's what most sources say. If you change the way you workout, you'll get sore muscles. But it's not necessary for progress in general.

Haha. Made me grin .

At least there's something funny concerning oil: http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/29/americans-turn-to-prayer-at-the-pump/

Thanks for your detailed post, tuc. Good to know, I can conscientiously love the pain. What I don't like is that my triceps is already OK while my biceps is still sore. Though I had the feeling that I worked hard on my tri.

Hey Ping, You probably know already but if you don't have a look on www.veganbodybuilding.de , still expensive but I really like the Organic food bars. Nice log! Hi VeganDude, thanks for your link and the feedback . I knew the site already, indeed. I still think that these bars are relatively expensive. But I'll try them soon.

Thanks, good to know. What I've read until now was that the sore muscles have tiny cracks (?) and until this injury is healed, there's no growing. Plus, it would grow without the injuries, so avoiding them would be better. Is that wrong or am I just mistaking you ?

Sore muscles is a great sign! It means you pushed yourself and your muscles are recovering. I live for the burn! Enjoy it! Well, isn't it that as long as they're sore, they need energy for healing instead of growing?

I contacted a German vegan bodybuilding products online shop about reselling Vega products. Hopefully there'll be a deal. Can't wait to try them.

Tune: Good morning! 1050 Breakfast w tea 1315 An apple, a pear and a banana. 1620 Fruit bar 1720 Brown rice with chickpeas and an Uncle Ben's sweet-and-sour sauce and spices. I have a Malt beer with it. 2210 Two buns with yeast-spread and margarine. 2230 Selfmade Weight Gainer

Googled "vegan bodybuilding" and landed. I've to say though that I didn't register or read the forum for a long time, I usually clicked on some articles, found them to be waay to long and left. Time and time again. I second your view on Robert's (and thus the forum members') overwhelmingly positive aura. It lured me in. That's so mean. I have never come across such place in Germany. I'd spend my whole freetime there.

Breath-taking. Adorable. They seem to love the food .

Sooo cute, thank you and all the best for your family ! Thanks .

Göttingen, located in the southern part of Lower-Saxony. Your picture is so sweet, is that your child? Thank you 3 for your welcomes, too.

Tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYiKdJoSsb8 Good morning! 0900 Breakfast w tea 1400 An apple and a pear Really bad day food-wise, wasn't able to eat (logistically) until 1400 1520 Two whitebread veggie-burgers with a few slices cucumber (?) on them. 300g cooked (yeah, I know) brussels sprouts (nutmegged) A little trashy but loaded with protein 1745 A few Walnuts 1915 Smoothie (pineapple, banana, orange) Not selfmade. 1945 Two buns (?) with chili-yeast-spread-thing and margarine on them. Some cucumber-slices with them. 2100 Orange Juice based Soy Protein Shake with added Maltodextrin (Homemade Weight Gainer, so to speak) Dunno what to eat. 2145 Some chips. 2150 And Walnuts. 2240 Malt beer. I'm so sleepy today, can't figure out why . Sore muscles maybe not a positive sign, but it feels so great to know you were training.

Great work, Potter . Is OrganicAthlete a vegan group or just organics, as the name suggests?

Germany has all kinds of great food purity laws. Here in the U.S. and Canada, manufacturers can put all kinds of stuff in your food. There are some weird products here, too, though. I often have the feeling that the manufacturers just have some animal pieces left and throw them in without advantage in taste nor in consistence. If I find out, to come back to the topic, I'm often just totally disappointed because the product could have been made vegan without anyone noticing it.

Nice journal, interesting stuff . Hope you share more of your training / food routine soon. Ah, and beautiful pictures.

Is that really as bad in Canada? In Germany putting milk in normal bread is not a usual routine, as far as I know. I could be too naive though . But the ingredients list of most breads sold in supermarkets support my view.

Great to read that of you two! Keep on pumping. " title="Applause" />

Stunning. Really, really motivating to see your great progress! Can't wait for the next set of pictures .

Tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv5BoTioJrM Good morning! It's training day, **** yeah! But first, I'll have a nice breakfast with tea . I can only quote Rob "Have an outstanding day!" 1120 Breakfast w tea 1315 Training 1530 Multivitamin/Mineral + Regeneration Shake (Soy Protein + Maltodextrin + Dextrose + Soymilk Choco) Now comes the best time of the day - POST-Workout, feel your body, be pumped with happiness, have a chillout, drink your shake I did legs, neck, shoulders, biceps, triceps. I will not give you any weights yet, since I actually lower them at the moment, because I strive to optimize my accuracy, I think that's the most important thing I can do to succeed with my comeback . 1640 Some fruits: 2 Bananas, 1 pear and 1 kiwi fruit Wow, I feel so weak now. Found out that a spider invaded my room. 1800 Nutmegged mashed potatoes and broccoli with some rape-oil 1945 25g cheap bar (~90kcal, ~2g Protein) - sadly high-protein bars are either expensive or not vegan in Germany 2000 Malt beer, not really complex carbohydrates (~250kcal AFAIK), but it tastes good and does its job 2010 Adding some walnuts to the malt beer session 2110 Cornflakes, oatmeal and choco soymilk I'd really love if someone could comment on yesterday's food. I love to optimize.

Thank you two and... uhm, good night.

Yeah, glad to have you here, too . Though I'd cry if I saw 70kg one the screen.

No need to fear because you question. I think these are two completly different things (as you think, too, probably). Zeitgeist gave me a new view to some things (I'm not saying this is the truth). It's made great, I don't know if it's true though .