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  1. cover says "with Bill Dobbins" and i'll bet you Billy did most of the writing.


    speculating on his drug use cannot be said to be "completely inaccurate" as no one really knows what or how much he took. according to one biographer he took dbol since 13. the point i guess i was trying to make is that following trainign advice for the genetically-enhanced is silly.

  2. I think Arnold's book was mostly ghostwritten, and from what I remember the nutrition advice wasn't that great. He did have a great physique but remember he was on grams of testosterone and dianabol, according to some sources he took it since the age of 13. impossible to build a body like that and still maintain health.


    i will post more good books tomorrow, too tired right now

  3. from what I understand of Crossfit, it is common to do olympic lifts for time, either against a clock, against other people or trying to beat your previous record. the olympic lifts are technical and NOT appropriate for conditioning purposes, as crossfit seems to use them. you want to do them when you're fresh and focused. so i would say if your crossfit location does this-- then it is unsafe

  4. Whoa whoa whoa there. A tanning bed instead of D2?! That doesn't sound like a good idea at all.


    D2 is the form the original rickets studies showed effective. While D3 has been shown more effective recently at keeping blood levels elevated, D2 hasn't been shown ineffective or dangerous.


    UV on the other hand is dangerous. Not to the point we have to hide under rocks all day, but D2 supplementation just seems more sensible than tanning beds.

    Notice I didn't say D2 is ineffective and dangerous, just that it's not natural (which seems like a philosophical contradiction given most people here eat a vegan diet at least partially for this reason) and less effective than D3.


    Regarding your point on UV being dangerous: I could link you to studies on sun exposure vs sun avoidance, discuss the relative merits of high serum 25(OH)D3 over UV avoidance, discuss sunscreen, specify the (rather small) amount of UV exposure necessary for D3 production, mention the opinions of various dermatologists, talk about optical isomers of D3 that boost mood and are produced from UV exposure but not supplementation--- but, suffice to say, the whole of human (and most species') evolution would argue against UV being "dangerous"... just sayin'.


    edit: I guess I would concede that UV is dangerous. I mean, theoretically, you can kill yourself by drinking water, so this does make water "dangerous" in that it has the possibility to create danger to one's health.

  5. Lobsteriffic- if you're good about taking the multi every day and it has at least 25 micrograms of b-12 in it (preferably as cyanocobalamin) you should be fine.

    Cyanocobalamin is not the preferred form. Cyanocobalamin does not affect homocysteine methylation. Since vegans have elevated homocysteine levels (you can google this for studies), methylcobalamin would be the better form, as well as other methylating nutrients like B6, folate, TMG and creatine. Read here: http://www.drinkyourvitamins.com/images/stories/dyv_pdf/hpomethylation_olaloa.pdf

    and here: http://www.drinkyourvitamins.com/homocysteine-the-key-to-heart-attack-stroke-cancer.html

    Although these links are from a commercial source (Ola Loa vitamins) they are written by Dr. Richard Kunin, a well-respected orthomolecular physician. here's another:


    Although I am LOATH to link to NaturalNews, this is a good interview.


    Hello all ...


    This one caught my eye as a vegan pharmacist ... so I had to chime in.


    Depending on what works for your day to day routines ... I have found a weekly B12 sub-lingual lozenge (2,000 mcg - 2,500 mcg) to be the most practical to keep my B12 levels within range - If I forget one week - so what ... I take it the next time around and get in 4 tabs/month.


    I always have my B12 level (blood work) checked during my annual physical and have been @ the top of the limits. Therefore, this is keeping my B12 stores satisfactory and I have noticed improvements in my other related labs as well - and I have decreased the amount I supplement as well ...


    I always suggest that all vegetarians, esp. vegans get annual blood work and then tailor their supplements accordingly ... otherwise you are wasting your money and/or driving blind. I recently found that my Vitamin D stores were critically low and have added a Vitamin D2 supplement 2,400 IU/day to resolve that issue ... esp with the risk of bone fractures as a body builder, IMPORTANT!


    Watch out for D3 ... this one is derived from animal sources! Most multivitamins utilize D3 - heads up!


    So overall ... ask your physician to run a folate, B12, Vitamin D, Tranferrin saturation, Iron and whatever else they deem appropriate ... and then tailor your supplements accordingly ... You may not need anything if your diet is consistent and your are within normal limits.

    This is good advice on the B12. A few sublingual tablets per month (1000mcg of methylcobalamin) elevated my B12 to very high levels as well.


    As far as the D2 goes, you should be aware it's an unnatural form of vitamin D. It's not normally found in the body and is not as effective as D3 in raising 25(OH)D levels. We know about how much D3 the skin produces, and we know about how much D3 that equates to in supplement form. We know D2 is not natural, not as effective-- about all it has going is that it's vegan. So my recommendation would be to use a tanning bed that specifically emits the UV wavelengths that produce vitamin D. here's a link to a google site search of Vitamin D Council:


  6. Hello all. Haven't been on in a while, but I need to solicit some advice. This might be a longish post, but if you can read it through and give me some feedback it would be much appreciated! I've been working out for over a year, made some good gains. In December of 2008, for a few reasons, I started drinking heavily (heavily being the key word) and lost a lot of strength/gained fat. I slowly got back into working out late February and have gotten back to maybe 80% of where I was. I'm 6'2" and 208 lbs. The problem is, I need to LOSE FAT. I'd estimate my bodyfat is no lower than 17% and maybe even higher. I want to keep building muscle but to do this while losing fat is difficult. But if possible I'd like to accomplish both as nearly as I can. Here are some options, as I see them:

    1) Go on a program geared toward fat loss, i.e. fasted morning cardio and maintenance weight training later in the day. Go on fat-loss diet. Use healthy fat burners like flax oil and yerba mate.

    2) Weight train intensively. Eat clean but enough to gain strength/size. moderate fat loss may be accomplished

    3) Try to do both 1 and 2: do fasted morning cardio, then weight train later in the day. eat clean. try to gain muscle/lose fat.


    Which one of the above would be best? Also, what are some good weight training programs? Obviously there are lots of opinions, but my friend is singin the praises of German Volume Training. seems like overkill to me, but who knows.


    The thing is, I'm not blessed with good fat setpoint genetics. Even when I exercise a lot/eat well, my bodyfat is still higher than I would like it. It frustrates me that some guys can drink dozens of beers and eat fast food, and still have a six pack.


    Any advice you can offer would be appreciated.

  7. Ginger is a 'common spice and wonder drug' according to one expert. It is also mentioned in The Thrive Diet as helping with post-exercise soreness and recovery. I had been taking New Chapter's Zyflamend product as a daily anti-inflammatory and antioxidant, and not really noticing too much in the way of results. Lately I have been consuming vast quantities of freshly grated ginger. The recipe for my dressing can be found here: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14846. Anyhoo, this seems to have made all the difference. I estimate that I am taking in anywhere from 1-2 tablespoons of fresh ginger per sitting, a couple times per day. I am less sore and have faster recovery.


    Thought I would report this so others can try it and share their results.

  8. For those of you that like Asian noodles as much as I do, here's a neat recipe. I do up a bunch and leave it in the fridge. I love it on soba noodle salad with some bok choy and green onions. Here's how to make it (don't have an exact recipe, so adjust to taste):


    o 1 part soy sauce

    o 1 part rice bran oil

    o 2 parts rice vinegar (or can use apple cider)

    o 1-2 tsp of mirin (Japanese sweetened cooking sake)

    o 1-2 tsp of hot sauce (I like sriracha)

    o Dash of shichimi togarashi

    o A ton of fresh grated ginger (the finer the better)


    Combine everything in a jar and shake well. Keeps well because everything is fairly stable. Refrigerate and use a spoon to serve so you get the grated ginger goodness.



  9. I really enjoy yerba mate. It seems to have different effects than coffee, even when the amount of caffeine is comparable. It makes me feel awesome. Something about the combination of moderate amounts of caffeine, chlorophyll and amino acids adds up to equal awesomeness. I'm sipping on some right now.


    Caffeine can be a dual-edged sword. It is a proven performance enhancer, but when overused it definitely does bring you down. So I cycle it-- a couple days off each week, and take a week break every few months. Also I use adrenal support like maca and schisandra to keep its deleterious effects to a minimum. But even so, I've never noticed any negative effects from yerba mate like I did with coffee and tea.

  10. ZMA is vegan if you get in in a veggie cap, and creatine is vegan as well. Animal Pak and Muscle Milk are not vegan. Not sure about the others. Nothing in the NOxplode formula jumps out as being not vegan, but you never know. I've taken it in the past and wasn't impressed enough to bother checking if I could take it now.


    Welcome to the forum.

  11. For me it depends on the location. At home, even in this California heat, I don't run the AC. I just walk around in my boxers. When going out, I always wear pants, even in summer, so if I'm at work it can get quite warm. Plus I'm drinking yerba mate all day, which raises my metabolic rate and generates heat. I wear some nice breathable khakis with a polo shirts or a light material longsleeve button-down. I had problems with freakish oversweating until recently, when I started drinking coconut water. That seemed to fix it.


    So my long-winded answer is 76.

  12. I'm not a physiology expert, but I know that people's metabolisms can vary greatly, whether due to diet or genetics. This shouldn't be used as an excuse, it's merely a fact.


    I know what you mean about grocery shopping. Here's a suggestion: figure out what you like to eat, that's healthy. Then write it down so when you go to the store you can buy a bunch of it. Remember, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail-- or somesuch.

  13. I'm looking to cut after my bulking, and I think I will probably supplement with 7-keto, coleus and yerba mate. Ephedrine makes me have bad tinnitus. 7-keto looks to be reasonably safe, and although there aren't a lot of human trials, it's not too expensive to try, especially when you get half off wholesale through employee buying. I will let you know how it goes.

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