joelk

This last cheat meal's for YOU VeganJoe

Enjoy mate!

It will be worth it

It's not really a diet where beans could be used, it would be an unhealthy diet even if is was vegan because it would mean cutting out too many food groups.

I think veganising it would be very easy though, swap the whey protein for gemma, swap the meats for for tofu or seitan.

Even though I have followed a diet very similar (just with a lot more fats) I'm going to try something similar to what Fallen Horse was elluding to by using some sort of whole grains, like the sprouted breads and legumes and lower the fats a little.

I think it would be easy to get very lean keeping some carbs in but in wholegrain form, unlike this diet that says to take some juice after training.

I'll write up what I'm intending to try when I get the chance and I'll write what I used to eat pre contest

Brian Dobson has worked with some great bodybuilders over the years and aside from the Preachy side of him, he seems really cool!

Preachy side and huntin' side.

That diet looks very similar to the Palumbo diet, probably a knock off by someone. I don't know why they would recommend simple sugars after training though, a ketogenic diet would generally involve low intensity cardio and short, intense weight training sessions, therefore reducing the need to use post workout sugars.

I think the diet would be easy to veganise, it would however need the person following it to eat a lot of tofu, seitan and processed vege burgers etc, to keep the carbohydrate content down.

I agree Dropsoul, a vegan cutting diet which is quick and easy to find when diets are searched for would be great

Thanks for posting the link

I'm a really big fan of the NitroFusion brand. It has 25g of protein (Pea, Brown Rice, & Artichoke), it's good to mix with water or almond milk, and it's soy free. I already tried the Vanilla flavor. I'm going for the Mocha next.

I swear by that protein, although I am looking forward to trying the SunWarrior Rice protein and getting my hands on some hemp powder (not easy to find in Australia).

Soyfreewarrior, I found mocha to be my least favourite, preferred van. choc. and berry personally

Does it count that I squatted ysterday with TWO kids (75lbs total) on my back? Does it?

With that degree of difficulty, I would add a bonus 50lb to your lift

Is this a current max for all lifts, or a lifetime max?

I used current max. lifts

Arnold was notorious for burning out many training partners because of his huge training volume.

While I admire his physique (particularly his upper body) it is crazy to think his training programs are going to yield the same results, unless someone is a genetic freak, on steroids, or has all day to lay around on the beach like Arnold did.

I think striking a balance between Arnold and Mentzer would be a better way to grow

Nice article, thanks for posting it.

I personally am a believer in creatine but because this is intended for teenagers, getting the basics of diet in consistently is the most important

That's cheap.

Tropical isn't too bad anyway

Can't wait to try it, cheques in the mail somewhere, heading towards the good old U.S of A

I wish they carreid Nitrofusion around here. Canadian shipping rates blow. Once you add $20US for shipping then do the conversion for the whole order, even $30 for 5lbs of Nitrofusion ends up costing close to $70. As much as I love Canada, they need to get their supplement act together, haha.

That isn't too bad actually, considering it is $85-$90 here in Australia for the 5lb

It's Gemma protein with some betain added in, unless the U.S. version is different (we get all the watered down Canadian stuff from LG, Muscletech etc.)

It doesn't taste too bad, thick like Gemma protein generally is.

There's saccharin in it though which I'm not a fan of, hence I stick to Nitrofusion.

Yep, MACA is pretty nasty.

Spirulina runs a very close second though, tied with ginseng, they both make me gag everytime I take them

Ah yes, I tried this yesterday with squats and 45 deg leg press. Definitely feeling it today. Ended up doing four sets of 5 squats, one set of 6 leg presses, then a few rest-pause sets or the leg presses.

Awesome sounding workout, I think we're onto something with the combination of the 5x5 and HIT stuff. Maybe we can do a veganbodybuilding e-book and use this program

did anyone see the picture of the firefighter who was sharing his water with a Koala?

Terrible. Simply terrible. I did like one of the pictures I saw on AOL News a few das back. did anyone see the picture of the firefighter who was sharing his water with a Koala?

Yeah, the koala is being cared for now by a wildlife rescue organisation, hopefully he will recover completely

Hmmm that does sound like a good idea. I've been trying to come up with a good way to follow my squats with the leg press to "top it off". Doing a 3x8 after a 5x5 just takes too long.

It is also quite draining doing the 3 sets. Doing one intense set will still stimulate growth (I'm starting to sound like Mike Mentzer now)

There are still fires that haven't been contained and there has been a lot of backburning which has left the city very smoggy. For a lot of the affected areas it's all about rebuilding now, which will take a long time. Plus there are still bodies unaccounted for.

I am the opposite to Gaia, I have gone as high as 65% fats, with trace amounts of carbohydrates. It is not the easiest diet to follow though and certainly not the healthiest, as I have to cut out a lot of protein sources and having such high levels of fat, although mono and polyunsaturated plant sources, is still a lot of fat.

For my next comp I'm going to go lower, around the 30% level and increase my carbohydrate levels in the form of green vegetables and some other nutrient dense carbohydrate sources, i.e. quinoa. My guess is I should still be able to get in the same shape but it will be a little healthier and add some more variety.

Yeah he's in custody now, facing 35 years jail. He will have a hard time if his identity is ever revealed as there are people baying for his blood

Still interested mate, I'll get back to you very soon about it

I just hope not too many people will follow him by going to buy almost 2 dozen of eggs each day. And throw half of it in the garbage.

 

As long as there are dieticians like the one interviewed in the article saying things like "that is similar to my diet, except I only eat 10 eggs a day" and "that is like the diet I used when bodybuilding" people will follow blindly and do the same

Thanks heaps mate, I'll get onto them and see where I can pitch in. It's upsetting that a lot of the livestock is not really getting much care.

I appreciate the links.

It is a terrible situation and the fact that it only happened about 30 mins from where I live makes it quite scary.

The cooler weather and less wind has calmed the situation slightly but the end is still not near.

I've donated some cash and vegan pet food to try and help a little but it's difficult to know what else to do, especially to help the animals

I'm the same as Phil and Johan, there's not much difference in my workout and non workout calorie count, I guess just my post workout creatine/carb drink at the moment