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So the decision has been made. Actually it means that the raw food section has been deleted, and i am not happy about it. I liked the raw section, I only read that one. I dont read other raw forums, because it was my favourite, same with Storietime, vbbf helped me to go vegan and then raw. Now, it has been deleted because one guy (who only posted on the raw section to tell how bad is it, all the time). I am not angry of anybody, but I think it was better that way.

oh, always the same conclusion. eat cooked food if you want, i dont care chaser, only the rich could afford to eat meat every day. There were no meat industries, my grandparents ate what they had..., or look into history books, fruit was always the cheapest food(in season, of course local, and in warm climate) bye the way, i am not a raw foodist, they eat honey and powders and even meat or eggs, i am RAW VEGAN.

The main article is bullshit. I guy try to explain his faliure in doing something. Its simple. Not even logical. It is not true that cooking makes food easier to digest. It is only true when you want to eat something that is not for human eating in its natural form. For example, if you cook your apple it wont digest better. But if you cook your rice it will. But wait, would you eat rice raw? Walking in a ricefield and eating some rice because you are hungry? of course no, you would not even consider it as a food. Only farming, cooking, seasoning makes these foods eatable. Another point that we have been cooking our food much longer than we think, not 10 000 years but more... It is enough to ask my grandma that they did not have fridges, and microwawe ovens, and gas-ovens and stuff, so even fifty years ago my grandparents eat much more raw food, because that was easy to get and cheap. And the agriculture is not older than 10 000 years old, see: The origins of Agriculture. you can be unhealthy even as a raw foodist, you can do it wrong, you can do it good, its simple. people like to explain things for themself and for others making it easyer to accept the faliures. Usually we only admit that raw food is what we supposed to eat when we forced to. Because we are sick or something then we turn to raw foods and let our body to heal itself. Raw foods are not magic foods it is another bullshit, foods not heal, our body does, simple by giving the food it is designed will allow it to heal us.

yeah thats for me, I am well over 80%, no nuts no seeds, just fresh ripe fruits and some leafy greens. Thats all, simple. Mono meals, full of energy, I look better than ever before. It means to me more than anything, I would not change this diet for anything. I am in the fourth month of 100%raw now, feeling greeeeeat.

But the amount could differ though it is not pure zinc in the food, it is biologically connected. By the process it may change. Our body maybe better in using the zinc in living food, than it is revealed after processing it in a tube or some stuff. if you want a better answer you should ask somebody else its all guessing and spekulation by logic sense. (sorry for my bad english, I am tired.. going sleeep.)

Well, it is usual raw foodism It is just my opinion, I am not arguing or something. Just think about when you heat thinks the nutrients get damaged or lost, enzymes, vitamins, stuff... And we cant even know what is in the living food beacause for those nutrient test they have to cook the food and process it and stuff to see what is in it. peace

I do not eat any seeds or nuts at all. Those reccomendations are made for the people on SAD(Standard American Diet). Its completely useless for people like us, vegans or raw vegans. Our system does not have to face with so much chemicals and stuff, we can use nutrients better. posting.php?mode=reply&f=35&t=15284#

hy I am on 811, I have not thought about zinc so far, I think there is enough in the fruit I eat. Of course I do not eat 60 bananas a day but 30 is no problem, usually I have 20 at a normal day. I used to supplement before I went raw or vegan... but now I think it would put unneccessary stress on my body to eat pills, and it would not be used at all. I think the nutrients in the whole foods are much easier to digest and use, just the right ammount our body needs. I still have zinc pills(50mg) on my shelf but I havent touched it for months. I should have got rid of it alredy. thats for me I am eager to hear others opinion on this subject as well

ohhh i should have seen them... doug and fred are my favourites

It must be a great event. The only problem is that it is tooo far away I would love to go But Hawaii and Hungary are not neighbours...

I would like to watch them, but my internet is tooooo slow for this. I could only watch the first day's vids when i was at my bro's place... -I hope I can watch them later... bye the way, can I? (I wacthed the first two one day later) -What was D. Graham talking about? or were there any interesting stuff(from the others as well) thanks

Great posts guys. These arguments can be very useful, and I really appreciate them (till they are reasonable and not only about offending each other) After all its still the same everybody can decide himself what is the best for him. We can help each other, give advices, motivate, encourage others and it is worth more than anything else in this world

Very well said RawLiving.

Isetfire, If you had read it carefully you would have seen that I also mentioned that apes eat other things besides fruits and veggies, but not all apes though... I only said that their diet is the closest to ours. So please write only when you have something new to say. By the way, how much experience do you have in raw food diet? Because you act like someone who know better than peolpe doing it for decades. Actually have you ever tried it? Or you just give advices without knowing anything about it? and mislead people maybe? (in my opinion)

I never said that it is bad. It is just a simple fact.