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    Anybody got vegan cats?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    But then again if people are feeding their cats a vegan diet and they are healthy and living longer than usual......whos to know eh?

     

    Btw Richard - I know its off topic but I has been watching your youtube channel today for the first time... I freaking love it! I don't even listen to heavy metal and I think it rocks!!!!

     

    'Saturated' ftw (lol)

    Anybody got vegan cats?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Cats are carnivores. Full stop imho.

     

    Are all of their teeth long, sharp and pointed for tearing flesh? Check

    Do their jaws move up and down only for tearing and biting? Check

    Is their saliva acidic for the digestion of animal protein? Check

    Is a cat's stomach a simple round sack that secretes ten times more hydrochloric acid than that of a non carnivore? Check

    Is a cat's intestines three times the length of it's trunk designed for rapid expulsion of animal proteins which quickly rot? Check

    Is a cat's liver designed to eliminate 10 to 15 times more uric acid than the liver of a non carnivore? Check

    Carnivores do not sweat through the skin and have no pores. Is this the case for a cat? Check

    Carnivore's urine is acidic, is this the case for a cat? Check

    Carnivore's tongues are rough, is this the case for cats? Check

    Do they have hands designed for plucking fruit out of a tree or do they have clawed paws for tearing the guts out the carcass of a dead animal?

     

    Also, doing 'studies' to see if they can live healthily on a vegan diet would be putting cats at risk in the tests and is a bit backwards imho.

     

    Just my two cents.

    How does everyone feel about fish?

    in Health & Nutrition Programs

    Posted

    Best thing for now Cathalie say: "I eat a mostly vegan diet"

     

    Why does eating fish make your parents happy?

     

    Probably because they share the common belief system of: To get protein you have to eat animal products. When I didn't eat meat from the age of seven, everyone would give me fish like all the time Qoute my family: "Ohmg but what about PROTEIN?! Where will you get your PROTEIN from?! PROTEIN.....But the PROTEIN...(descends into inaudible mutterings).

    How does everyone feel about fish?

    in Health & Nutrition Programs

    Posted · Edited by RobertSupreme

    Well technically a vegan is someone who doesn't consume any animal products (or animals) at all so many will say without hesitation that you aren't vegan and that you're a liar despite the fact that you're closer to being vegan than vegetarian because you go without eggs, butter, milk etc.

     

    I personally don't care too much for designating/classifying people, I think it can get a bit out of hand sometimes and so I'm not going to kick up a fuss and call you a liar if you call yourself vegan but eat fish. I think that would be abit childish really. If however calling yourself vegan makes you uncomfortable because you feel like a liar then don't.

     

    A good thing to say would be 'I eat a mostly/predominantly vegan diet'

     

    Giving up fish was hard for me because I loved it. Well, it got easier when I occupied myself with finding alternatives and experimenting with new vegan foods.

     

    A good thing to do if you continue to eat fish would be to say thankyou to the fish when you eat it. You don't want to be eating some and feeling guilty because you're thinking about it meaning you're not vegan. My friend eats a mostly vegan diet but will have fish 2 or 3 times a year. When he does have it he considers it a treat and is really respectful in the way he eats it. And this was a guy that practically threw up if someone else across the room was eating fish a few years back.

     

    Anyway, welcome to the forum Cathalie! You might want to post a brief introduction in that section of the forum just so everyone knows who you are.

    RobertSupremes Photos

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Zack: I can't ever remember saying YOU specifically were eating too much! If I did then I didn't mean it to come out like that. I can't remember even implying that people were eating too much. It's none of my business how much other people eat and for me to judge that is ridiculous. I do remember making a thread ('Am I missing something here?') where I asked some questions because I was confused about how much protein is thought to be needed generally.

     

    No I'm not a raw foodist. I eat a fair amount of cooked food, most of it is steamed. Even if I was I wouldn't adopt the mindset that 'Everything I do is correct and if it works for me then so too, is the case for everyone else' and then go preach about it!!!!

     

    Sosso: Yeah he's a Staffy

     

    VeganJoe: Thanks for the kiwi tip! I'll have to try that, never thought of it!

    Greetings from Michigan

    in Introductions

    Posted

    Welcome Jesse! Looking good.

     

    Woah! I'm reading loads of enthusiasm and dedication coming from you!

     

    I also have a fast metabolism and before I became an active member here I was around 116lbs. Am now at 120 already and am pretty pleased so far.

     

    Only way is up buddy!

    RobertSupremes Photos

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Hey thanks RC! Didn't see your post!

     

    ZacK: What works for me is to eat fruit on it's own most of the time. Not too keen on mixing them with protein because I end up digesting them poorly (conflicting digestive enzymes)

     

    I had a small bowl of fresh brazil nut butter that I whipped up in my food processer earlier and had quite a lot of greens today too.

     

    Plus L&Gs sending me Sunwarrior soon

    Vegetarian Research Survey by Prof. Peter Cheeke

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Vegetarian Survey

     

    Location (State/Province, Country) Lincolnshire, England Date 5 February 2009

    Event (Seminar, Trade Show, etc.) veganbodybuilding.com

     

     

    This survey is being conducted by Dr. Peter R. Cheeke, Professor of Animal Science, Oregon State University. The purpose is to identify major reasons why people choose to become vegetarian.

     

    The survey will be completed anonymously. Please enter your demographic data here:

     

    Gender: Male

     

    Age (circle): less than 20 years

     

    Education (circle): High School College

     

    Farm Background (circle): None

     

    Animal Experience (circle): Pets only

     

    Dietary habits:

    Vegan

     

    Please indicate your degree of consumption of these animal products:

     

    Never for All.

    Meat

    Beef _______ _______ _______

    Lamb _______ _______ _______

    Pork _______ _______ _______

    Chicken _______ _______ _______

    Turkey _______ _______ _______

    Milk _______ _______ _______

    Eggs _______ _______ _______

     

    Other (identify type and degree of consumption) ________n/a________________________

    Please identify the importance of each of the following factors in your decision to not consume animal products:

     

    Not Extremely

    Important Important Important

     

    1. I am opposed to the killing of animals. Not important.

     

    2. I am concerned with health issues (heart

    disease, obesity, cancer, etc.) related to

    consumption of animal products. Very important

     

    3. I am concerned about residues of chemical

    feed additives and hormones used in

    animal production. Very important

     

    4. I am opposed to intensive, confinement

    production systems (factory farming) used

    in livestock and poultry production. Very important. But I prefer not to oppose things, rather be 'pro' the alternative.

     

    5. I am concerned with food safety issues

    (E. coli, mad cow disease, etc.) important

     

    6. I believe that animal production competes

    with human needs for grains. Important

     

    7. I am concerned about the environmental

    issues associated with animal production.

    Not important

    8. It is “cool” and trendy to be vegetarian.

    Not important

     

    9. I became a vegetarian because of peer

    pressure. Not important

     

     

    10. Other(s). Please identify. In answer to 1. I think it is of importance how they are killed and what kind of life they led i.e. free range/battery farmed etc. I don't think there is anything wrong with killing animals for food per se, as long as it is done with respect and done only when necessary for survival. The main reason I turned vegan is because the differences between carnivores and humans are great and many and points towards humans not being geared up physically to eat large amounts of meat and animal products without great detriment. Ref: 'Health Wars' by Phillip Day, Credence Publications.

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