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  1. I have to admit that I am taking much of my information out of text type material, so don't worry about offending me at all. It's the doctors that wrote the books that might offended, but I doubt that any of our opinions matter to them anyway ....

     

    Hey no worries and your right, no body really gives a "gosh, darn, tooting" what we think!!!

  2. Sorry if this post seems argumentative, but I've been holding back on correcting a lot of nutritional misinformation that I read on this forum, given by very passionate individuals who really believe what they are saying without any proof (other than their own personal experience and others "soft" sources) to back it up. At a time when more and more people are turning to veganism and more people are accessing the internet, I shudder to think about some of the conflicting messages new readers receive and then try to sort through.

     

    I agree. That is one of the dangers with forums in general and something I've been aware of and fearing for years. It is also very common in veganism, religion, and other groups of people who follow a specific path. As you've probably noticed, I pretty much never post anything at all in certain categories such as Nutrition because I don't know enough about it to give solid info. I only know my own experiences.

     

    It is hard to know what to believe when reading forums, but at the same time, it is nice to hear people's stories and their own experiences. I'll look into more scientific articles and post them on the main website and as stickys in appropriate sections of the forum.

     

    Thanks for bringing up that point DV, I actually think it is one of the most important points to bring up, period.

     

    DV

     

    There's conflicting info everywhere you look on this universe, if people have their own opinion on nutrition and want to share it then so be it and they have every right to regardless of it being right or wrong in the same way that you do, we also have a right to share our own experiance because that's our own personal truth even if it's no one elses, my own experiance with nutrition totally goes against what the science/fitness book says but does that mean it's wrong and I can't share it or it's not true to me?....I'm sure if you asked meat eaters about nutrition they will have a different story to tell too and the same with raw vegans, in my opinion all we can do is either relate to it or take it all with a pinch of salt and accept each others differences because forums just happen to be a good way for everyone to share crazy off the wall stuff.

     

    My ten cents.

  3. In order to get all of the amino acids that you need, you cannot eat only fruits. Fruits only supply a small part of what we need on the way of animo acids, and 9 amino acids that are essential cannot be produced by the body. They are, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, threonine, tryptophan, methionine, histidine, valine and phenylalanine. Never give your body what it craves because it does not know. It can crave a cigar or red meat, that is why It takes conscious thought to provide the body with what it needs. Let me give you an example, when we crave sweet things or salty things, that is the body's response to Pica, a mineral diffiency. Supplying the body with minerals will remove the cravings. There is no way possible to pull nutrients out of the ether ... they must be supplied in order for the mitochondria to have the building blocks that they need. It's just like putting gas in your car. Carrot juice is closest of all of the liquids to human blood. Always juice carrots with apples together and in as close to the same weight as possible, as the enzymes in apples remove the nutrients from the carrots, and make them more bio=available to the body's cells. Always drink the juice within 5 minutes or the enzymes will be dying and the juice will not be nearly as chemically active. Here is a list of fruits and vegetables that supply all of the animo acids. Juicing them will be easier to consume them, as most of the work of digestion has been completed. LIST; Apples, Carrots, Romaine lettuce, Swiss chard, Beet tops, Red cabbage, Green pepper, Endive, Escarole. Add one medium apple for each glass when juicing.

    Eat potatoes, onions, garlic, tomatoes, Broccoli, Brussels sprout, and squash. It takes, the consumption of everything that I just listed in order to get all of the amino's that our body needs, and remember 9 amino acids need to come from outside the body, our body cannot produce them. Hope this helps?

     

    Well what happens to people like me that don't crave sweets or salt????

     

    All I'm eating is fruits, so they must be doing me some good...eh!

     

    Plus when you say amino acids are you meaning protien?

     

    Another question, have you ever gone 100% raw for any longer than a year if you have you should have a better understanding when it comes to cravings.

     

    Anyway I'm not getting at you, I'mjust bored and thought I'd join in for a bit.

     

    I'm off now, gotta go workout, see ya!

  4. You guys all make really good points and I am not saying that you are not right. I'm just saying that I believe that we are electro-chemical --- biological organisms that need fuel to operate properly. I mean more than just to look good. To be really healthy as well. There are a great many athletes that have been sick from an improper diet. Lance Armstrong was one of them. Contracting cancer is evidence of improper nutrition. Check out these sites if you like and let me know what you think ??? ------ www.gerson.org www.gersonmiracle.org

     

    Cool...have a great time training, I've done my thinking for the day!!!

     

  5. How do greens abuse your system?

     

    food doesn't give energy, nor fuel, infact it takes away energy because it has to be digested, rest gives me more energy and fuel than anything I could eat.

     

    What do you build muscle mass from then?

     

    You can abuse your system by over eating/drinking anything!

     

    You build muscle by using a little bit of everything for instants taking care of your emotional state and staying stress free and happy, consistant/intense progressive training, recovery and replacing nutrients, staying hydrated and repeating that cycle but no one thing such as food is responsible for muscle growth.

  6. If what a human or animal comsumes is not the factor, How can we account for the high level of obesity in our country? Trainers for Olympic Athletes say that what we put in our bodies, is the single biggest factor to our health. Sure we can have genetic propensities, if you feed anyone a high fat diet such as burgers and fries, they will not make the United States Olympic Team. I am with you guys that we need to do what works for us, but our bodies need fuel, and what we decide to feed them, will show in our overall health. Look at what Olympic Althletes eat that actually win the gold.

     

    We have high levels of obesity because of the gradual shift in food choices and the increasing popularity of fast/junk foods as well as various other elements that are personal to each individual.

     

    When discussing fitness and diet you have to be careful using animals as an example because we are not animals and we also make up sports and all sorts of activities/competitions to do for no real reason and animals don't so they can eat when they want and what they want without fear of it effecting their perfomance, so to the animal, what they eat is really not a factor in anything because to them they are simply eating.

     

    Peace!

  7. This greens, size/strength thing just doesn't make sense to me, I've heard this point made so many times and it makes less sense each time I hear it....so are you saying that if a gorrilla ate anything else but greens it wouldn't be as strong or as big as it is and that if we all eat greens we'll automatically take on the strength and size of animals that eat greens, if that was so what's to stop us from inheriting the size/strength of animals such as sheep, rabbits, horses and if we really want to get huge why not eat what elephants eat?

     

     

    Gorillas are naturally big and strong and they don't eat greens to maintain any muscle mass, a gorrilla is a gorrilla no matter what it eats, just the same as a human is a human regardless of what we eat.

     

    I don't mean to be a jerk but it just doesn't make sense.

     

    Good luck with the training!

     

     

    I think that's a really good question and I do not think that you are being a jerk at all. If you visit a food composition website, you will see that vegetables, especially greens, are loaded with minerals and protiens compared with fruits. It's just the way that nature did it. Fruits have an action of supplying calories that we all need in order to sustain ourselves, but vegetable are filled with the body builder such as our protiens and minerals. Let's look at a few comparisons, For protien, a 100 gram serving of apples contains only .4 grams of protien. In comparison, leaf lettuce contains 1.2 grams of protien per 100 grams. That's triple the protien. Juice that leaf lettuce and you've got a great source of protien.

    I drank a 4 ounce glass of juice that had two heads of lettuce, one apple, and one carrot in it, and recieved 35 grams of protien. Not powders or shakes to add. Apples help to release the nutrients in other veggies, si I always add them to the juicer. Let's look at a few more items, Spinach has 2.1 grams of protien per 100 grams, Chard has 1.4 grams of protien per 100 grams, Brussels Sprouts have 4.4 grams of protien per 100 grams, even potatoes have 2.5 grams of protien per 100 grams. Since we all agree that we need protien in order to bulk up, it's easy to see that a gorilla gets really big eating greens that have on average, triple the protien content of fruits. I wish that I could get my hands on beet greens more, as they contain a whopping 2.2 grams of protien per 100 grams. But juicing a glass of juice like I do, has as much protien as a boneless, skinless chicken breast. I used to juice 13 times a day. But it would be unfair to talk only of protien as muscle mass is of course made up of many things. greens and all other vegetables have a massive amount of vitamins and minerals compared with any fruit. I would be happy to post comparisons if you like? But things such as lettuce, beet greens, and carrots, are loaded with nutrients. In order to survive on greens alone, one would have to munch quite a bit, and a gorilla does.

    Greens just don't have as many calories as fruit, and they aren't as sweet either. Hence, fruit is more attractive. But try it for yourself if you have the extra money, and look at food nutrient charts and see what I mean.

     

    I don't agree with the info about calories/protien, etc because I've seen results with my own training and growth to prove otherwise, plus anybody can get big/huge by stuffing themselves with meat or greens all day and abusing their system but does that mean your going to be healthy or it's all muscle mass?

     

    Personly, I've learnt that food is not the be all and end all when it comes to muscle growth,

     

    You've forgotten about "REST/RECOVERY" and "TRAINING"

     

    Rest and intense training you do is just as important and plays a major role in getting good results, in my experience and opinion, food doesn't give energy, nor fuel, infact it takes away energy because it has to be digested, rest gives me more energy and fuel than anything I could eat.

     

    In my case fruits merely serve to replace nutrients I have lost and to keep me hydrated, nothing more and nothing less.

  8. This greens, size/strength thing just doesn't make sense to me, I've heard this point made so many times and it makes less sense each time I hear it....so are you saying that if a gorrilla ate anything else but greens it wouldn't be as strong or as big as it is and that if we all eat greens we'll automatically take on the strength and size of animals that eat greens, if that was so what's to stop us from inheriting the size/strength of animals such as sheep, rabbits, horses and if we really want to get huge why not eat what elephants eat?

     

     

    Gorillas are naturally big and strong and they don't eat greens to maintain any muscle mass, a gorrilla is a gorrilla no matter what it eats, just the same as a human is a human regardless of what we eat.

     

    I don't mean to be a jerk but it just doesn't make sense.

     

    Good luck with the training!

     

  9. You got it man, I'll be in touch more too. I've just been out on tour as well and doing my thing. It's fun to watch others get out there in media as well. Aside from you, many others have really branched out and have made a name for themselves in this industry and that has helped motivated others (like those who talked about you as an inspiration during the raw retreat last weekend).

     

    Have fun man! I noticed that we look like quite a vibrant bunch in those photos! Beautiful weather and great food helps though.

     

    Please do man, I've not heard from you in a while.....be good!

  10. Yeah man, I really like Doug! He's great. Hey, I've been meaning to PM you or e-mail but I'm behind on things. A bunch of people knew about you at the Raw Retreat and talked about you as an inspiration in the raw fitness industry

     

    Well done man!

     

    Hey thanks, that's a huge honor man, it's funny because now everybody and their mama is trying to be the raw body building sensation but these guys don't have a clue, I'm starting to get out more and I'm meeting people that already know me from raw forums and my youtube vids, it's been such a pleasure, I was also asked to do a couple of fitness classes at the Raw Spirit festival but I'm not going to go to that.

     

    Anyway PM or E-mail me sometime anyway!

     

    The Fruitarian One!

  11. Good photos Big, though you are starting to challenge Rob in his status as most prolific poster of photos of ones self!

     

    I'm just sharing progress baby, in a creative way, infact these are probably my last set of pics as I am off to do other things now, my job is done!!!

     

    Or are you ready to admit that this is one bad fruitarian mutha (hush yo mouth)???

     

    Go on admit it, Jonathan, you know you wanna dump the oatmeal and come to the fruity side, the force is strong on the fruity side!!!

     

    Speaking of Rob and his pics...I think more people should post pics and vids of themselves training or making progress!!!

     

    Go Rob!!!

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