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  1. Well, have fun feeling superior. While you're sitting there pondering how much better you are than everyone else, I'll be enjoying me some hard boiled eggs!
  2. I'm kinda on the fence when it comes to pets, although I tend to believe vegan should avoid buying them. especially those requiring animals for food, don't own any except for the fish & tank I inherited from daughter when she moved. But if someone saves an animal from being euthanized at the animal shelter, does that fit neatly in to you equation? Is it somehow wrong for pet owners to provides their pets with a steady stream of admiration and loyalty? I don't think it's wrong at all. That's my point. In that case it should be very easy to refute. Go ahead. I'm waiting. Exploitation: use or utilization, esp. for profit. My point is that just saying something is "exploitation" doesn't make it wrong, by using examples of things that people generally consider to be ethical (though there are disagreements). I'm not saying that shopping at a store is unethical, which is how you seemed to interpret it. If my thread is "fail" then it shouldn't be very hard to refute what I've said. Yet YOU have "failed" to do that. Go ahead.
  3. When I go shopping, I exploit the store. That is, I use the store to get things that I want for my own benefit as a result of my own greed. However, the store benefits. In fact, in a way the store could be said to be exploiting me, and exploiting my desire to own their products, in order to get their hands on my money. Similarly, anyone who has a cat or dog is exploiting that cat/dog. They are keeping him/her there only because they enjoy having a companion animal who loves them unconditionally and provides them with a steady stream of admiration and loyalty. I hereby conclude that exploitation in and of itself is not unethical; it is only unethical if the exploited party is worse off as a result of it.
  4. Miscarriage means the fetus is expelled... in this story it dies, she still carries it to term, then it becomes undead... Oh! Well that's good then. So she ends up living happily ever after with her husband and their baby right? I'm sure nothing out of the ordinary occurs as a result of her baby being temporarily dead.
  5. thats one weak response Not nearly as weak as that one.
  6. that couldnt be further from the truth. there just so happens to be many other belief systems out there You can make up whatever "belief system" you want but at the end of the day people who have kids do so because THEY wanted them.
  7. Wow, when you put it that way, maybe they deserve captivity... I definitely don't support rape. But not all dolphins are rapists, right?
  8. It is estimated that around the world, about 53 billion animals are killed for food purposes every year. But that's not including fish and other aquatic animals who, according to some researchers, also die in the tens of billions, bringing the whole figure close to 100 billion/year. But this is a separate issue.
  9. Personally I love PETA; they've done a lot of good for animals. And if they've shown some naked women in the process, so be it. The Onion may have a sense of humor (I should hope so, they are a comedy newspaper after all) but they haven't really done much for the world other than provide entertainment.
  10. People who belong to groups that are looked at though prejudged views, can also have prejudicial views, even about the demographics they belong to. Yes, I am aware. Please see the remainder of my post.
  11. I'm afraid I don't understand... are you saying that it would be ethical?
  12. those are called "artifact children." not all children are artifact children, but it seems that more often than not in the west they are, largely in part to cultural and religious factors. All children are either: 1) intentionally conceived 2) accidentally conceived If ever the former, those kids were had to fulfill the parents' own selfish desires to have kids. Otherwise, there would be no point in having them.
  13. But we do raise humans. We call it parenting. We wouldn't let our kids do things that could put them in harm's way, such as play in the street, for example. And do we not really do this to fulfill our own selfish desires to have kids? Of course we do, but that doesn't mean the kids don't still benefit.
  14. Hm? I'm not treating them as property. If I were I'd keep them on a shelf in the closet, like I do my other belongings. I am curious as to what it would take for them to be truly free range... does it mean completely without borders or fences? If so this could be very dangerous for the chickens, as they could lose their way if they travel too far, not too mention run into predators or cars. My new backyard would be a lovely place for them; it's on a quiet river and almost completely shaded by big, gorgeous overhead trees, like a canopy. Oh, it's so lovely! And then when they are ready to go to sleep, they could retire to their big comfy bedroom via outdoor stairway to my mostly-flat roof.
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