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  1. Hi Willpeavy,

     

    Greenpeace's cmapaigns are selective and inconsistent. They are targetting Korea for whaling, yet other forms of the barbaric slaughter of marine wildife in other countries like Japan are "tolerated" by Greenpeace. Why? Because Greenpeace has many (financial ) supporters in Japan and Japan is not yet ready to hear about anti-qhaling or anti-dolphinning or whatever. Greenpeace, in other words, is very strategic about its campaigns and is careful not to alienate these supporters. SO that is what I mean by selling out the animals to popular opinion. IT seems that Greenpeace's priority lately has been to go with the current of popular opinion among its supporters, rather take a firm and consistent and universal anti-whaling stance across the board. It targets the anti-whaling of one country while turning a blind eye to, or "tolerating", the anti-whaling of another.

     

    Like I said, another reason why I am unimpressed by Greenpeace lately is because it has taken no direct action to help stop the Canadian seal hunt, and a Greenpeace activist has stated to me in a personal one and one conversation that the anti-GMO campaign takes priority over the single largest mass slaughter of marine wildife today. Based on Greenpeace's lack of action in the one case, and focus on the other, I think this can be fairly interpretted as being an accurate representation of Greenpeace policy with respect to seals and GMOs. HHmmmmmm....those priorities seem a little fucked up in my opinion, but it is, of course, your perogative to disagree, and even if you do, i still luv u

     

    As far direct action, I absolutely condone and support the efforts of Sea Shepherds. As far as I know, they have not hurt anybody, and in fact, they are the ones that have been violently assaulted for interfering with seal kills, dolphin kills, whale kills, etc. And to be perfectly honest, I am not sympathetic to sealers, whalers, etc. whose animal killing property has been damaged as a result of Sea Shepherd actions, and will not be "crying for them Argentina" any time soon.

     

    Having said that, it would be foolish not to realize that the world is unequivocally a better place WITH both Greenpeace and Sea Shepherds than without. IT is just a shame though that Greenpeace has pretty much refused to support the Sea Shepherd crew in their direct action on the blood drenched Canadian Ice Floes with the carcusses of baby seals lying around and their devastated mothers. IN short, I think the animals and the environment would be much better served if Greenpeace and Sea Shepherds worked together and supported and assisted each other. I think both organizations need to be careful to remain pure to the cause and to the vision, and to not sell out the purity of the vision to financial considerations and popularity, and in that regard, I think Greenpeace is increasingly on shaky ground. WHALING sucks, no matter who is doing the whaling

     

    PS I have no idea I amanged to italicize the paragraphs above and cannot seem to UNitaliicize them.

  2. Hi,

     

    I think you meant to direct your question to me. What I mean by cardio is not the type of activity. IN terms of fat burning, all cardio is created equal. As long as whatever activity you are doing can get your heart range up in its fat burning range, the fat layers in your body cannot differentiate between say treadmill jogging or ecliptical training. It simply does not matter. The key to "correct cardio", then, is not the type of activity, but rather, to make sure that your heart rate is not in excess of your upper limit for more than about 90 seconds. So you said that you keep your heart rate at about 158 - I do not know if that is correct without knowing your age. 20 - 30 minutes is good. many people do too much cardiop without realizing that it is counterproductive to lowering body fat and increasing lean muscle. In fact, I read somewhere that generally, runners - peoplewho run long distances daily and do not lift weights- have higher body fat levels than those who lift weights and do cardio for only about 20-30 minutes. To figure out if this number is correct, simply calculate your heart range. For more details about figuring your numbers and shedding body fat, please see the post entitled "My two cents for shedding fat and retaining lean muscle" somewhere on these boards - forgot where exactly.

     

    Having said that, all cardio is not created equal if you are concerned about your joints. Running is obviously much harder on your joints then eliptical training. So long as when you are doing your eliptical cardio training (or any kind of cardio) you are keeping track of your heart rate, you are fine. See "My two cents" post for helpful tips on lowering body fat %, which is KEY to ab definition.

     

    And now a dumb question for koll - What does "LOL" stand for -

  3. Hi!!

     

    The key to revealing abs is a lowe body fat %. No matter how much and smart you train yur abs, if you have a layer of fat covering them, you will never see as much definition as you want.

     

    So fat burning cardio is a cornerstone of any endeavour to gain ab definition.

     

    Also, you mentioned somethhing about the shape of you abs. many people say that whether you can or cannot have a 6 pack is genetic. This is slightly misleading. ANYBODY can have ab definition. If, for example, you have a low bf % and have strong ab muscles, you will see abs. That part has nothing to do with genetics. However, the shape of your ab muscles - like whether or not they are perfectly symetrical - is, unfortunately, genetic. But either way, ab definition - symetrical or not - looks awesome!!!

     

    make sure you are doing cardio correctly. Otherwise, you might be burning lean muscle instead of fat.

     

    P.S. I really CAN spell. I just suck at typing and tend to type fast with lots of typos!!!!

  4. Rob,

     

    I can totally relate to your hearing troubles. I use tgo have amazxing hearing, but the last couple of months I have noticed that my hearing in my left ear has significantly diminished. This freaks me out too because I too am under 30 and already have shitty hearing in my left ear???!!!!

     

    maybe it is from years of bartending in loud clubs that have finally caught up with my hearing, but is sucks to be half deaf practically so I gotta go to the hearing doc to and get to the bottom of this.

     

    How is your ear doing? Any better? Now that I think about it, I think my eyesight is diminshing as well. My eyes get tired much more quicker it seems lately, and hey also feel really dry.

     

    has anybody else been noticing a decline in any of their senses?

  5. Hi guys,

     

    man I have tried posting to a few other veg websites lately, and it seems that all I have encountered are peta hating animal rights activists who think that the world would be a better place if peta would vanish. Some of these people do not even wish to explain there feelings, and have given me the impression that they are not really interested in explaining anything to me because they are tired of life, or sick of talking about peta, or whatever. Of course, I am not referring to anybody that posts both here and there. Every single person that I have interacted with on vegan bodybuilding has been warm, kind, sincere and patient. I love this website. No other vegan website can compare to the positive energy that is felt here. This website is like my cyberspace home.

     

    Geeze, what is up with people these days?

     

    This atmosphere, this family, this team here at vegan bodybuilding is the best. I have never felt more welcome and accepted and safer than I do when I am here. You guys here all rock, and this is by far the best, and most welcoming website ever. I think that the warmth and patience on this website will go a longer way in helping animals.

  6. hey Koll,

     

    Certified for what??? if you mean a certified personal trainer or nutrionist, then no, but thanks for the compliment.

     

    Everything above was just a lucky guess

    Seriously, I am no where near qualified to be a personal trainer or nutritionist. I am simply sharing what I have learned over the years and what works for me.

  7. TIPS FOR SHEDDING FAT WHILE RETAINING LEAN MUSCLE:

     

    1. Eat at least 6 small meals daily, two to three hours apart. Eat protein and carbs at each meal. In my opinion, this is the best way to maintain more stable blood sugar and energy levels while providing your body with the nutrients needed to recover from exercise.

     

    2. Drink lots of water. Start the day with huge glass. It kick starts your metabolism. Keep drinking throughout the day.

     

    3. To lose fat, you must expend more calories than you take in. Without a calorie deficit, you simply cannot burn fat.

     

    4. MAKE SURE THAT WHEN DOING CARDIO, your heart rate is in your target fat burning range, which is between 65% and 75% of your max heart rate. Keep your heart rate between these two numbers and you will burn fat not muscle.

     

    5. Lift weights. More muscle means a faster metabolism, which in turn means more calories burned throughout the day. Lifting weights is key to fat loss and lean muscle retention.

     

    6. if you do cardio and weights on the same days, do weights first, followed by cardio. If you are reasonably cardiovascularly fit, I would recommend 20 - 30 minutes of interval training for cardio. THis is done on the following pattern: 2 minutes with your heart rate within the target numbers, and then one minute when you jack your heart rate to about 80% of your max range (so you would sprint for a minute to get your heart rate really up there). But only for one minute. After this one minute of sprinting, be sure to take two minutes to bring your heart rate back down again before you jack it back up again. Doing cardio at above your target range for longer than 90 seconds has shown to burn muscle and not fat! This would be counterproductive. To monitor my heart rate, I use a heart rate monitor. if you are not sure how to calculate your range, it is 220 minus your age, multiplied by 65 %. This is your lower target. Then 220 minus your age multiplied by 75% gives you your upper target. So if you are 29 years old, that would be:

     

    (220 - 29) * 65% = 124

    (220 - 29) * 75% = 143.

     

    So you would keep you heart rate between 124 and 143 when doing cardio to ensure you are burning fat and not lean muscle. You would be surprised at how many people do not have a cardio clue!

     

     

    7. Try, if you can, to exercise first thing in the a.m. ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. Since your glycogen stores are depleted in the a.m., your body dips into your fat stores sooner.

     

    8. While some people may disagree with this one, NEVER go to bed hungry. I am not saying to eat a full course meal 10 seconds before bedtime. But do not go to bed hungry either. The night time is when your body repairs the damage you have done in the gym. It needs fuel to do so. Eat a light snack, healthy snack if you find that it is bed time and you are out of fuel and starving. You should never be starving anyway. You should be eating small meals frequently throughout the day so you never find yourself starving. Starving yourself slows down your metabolism, reduces lean muscle tissue and leaves you feeling grumpy, tired and lousy to be around (oops- I am speaking from personal experience ).

     

    9. When lifting, technique, form and tempo are critical to seeing the fastest possible results. make sure that your muscles are doing the lifting, not momentum, for example. Complete reps in a slow, controlled and focused manner. Slow it down and feel the burn. Post muscle workout soreness for a few days is a good thing. It is the result of inflamed muscle tissue, which in turn is part of the repair process making that muscle stronger and leaner. If you do not get sore, improve your technique, slow down your reps to really feel the burn, or increase your intensity.

     

    10. if you plateau, let us know so we can provide you with tips on how to zap your body out of it.

     

    11. Do not do the same exercises for a body part longer than three consecutive weeks. Change it up to keep your muscles guessing. if you body gets used to what you are doing, your lifting will not be as effective or efficient anymore.

     

    12. 80 % of your results are from nutrition. Nutrition is key to losing body fat. Reduce fats and simple carbs. Breads are a definite no no if you are trying to shed body fat. Take a look at what everybody eats under "What are the staples of your diet" string of messages. Complex fibrous veggies, with high protein beans like lentils and Red kidney beans and low fat unsweetened soy milk mixed with some soy proetin powder seem to work well for losing body fat. So are the Yves faux meat products that are high in protein and low in carbs. What works for me is to consume a macronutrient combonation of about 40: 40: 20. 40 % of calories from protein, 40 % from carbs, and 20 % from fat. This sounds complex but it really is not. No need to do calculations with everything you eat. Just remember to try and consume roughly equal amounts of protein and carbs at each meal, with little fat, and you will be on your way to a leaner you!!!

     

    Those are things that I have learned over the years and have worked for me. I am sure they work for others too if their goal too is to decease body fat.

  8. Hey Koll,

    Yup - I TOTALLY agree with you. It is just as important to thank companies that make ethical choices in their business practices as it is to condemn those that don't.

     

    When companies see that their ethical choices are getting around to the public, and the public is responding positively and telling them that they will give the ethical company their business, this encourages that business to stick to its ethical guns AND encourages other businesses to follow suit.

  9. Hi Koll and lelle,

     

    Okay I see what you mean - not sure why the petition is not there. I have contacted sea shepherds and have asked them to provide me with the direct link to the online petition.

     

    As soon as I get it, will post it here. Check back to this string next week, okay?

     

    Did you guys read through the seal slughter info on that site - it is so heart wrenching with all the pictures of the clubbers and the video and shit. That video was actually taped by the sea shepherds themselves. Sea Shepherd is a very credible and honest organization, and Captain Watson is a true hero with great integrity.

  10. TIPS FOR SHEDDING FAT WHILE RETAINING LEAN MUSCLE:

     

    1. Eat at least 6 small meals daily, two to three hours apart. Eat protein and carbs at each meal. In my opinion, this is the best way to maintain more stable blood sugar and energy levels while providing your body with the nutrients needed to recover from exercise.

     

    2. Drink lots of water. Start the day with huge glass. It kick starts your metabolism. Keep drinking throughout the day.

     

    3. To lose fat, you must expend more calories than you take in. Without a calorie deficit, you simply cannot burn fat.

     

    4. MAKE SURE THAT WHEN DOING CARDIO, your heart rate is in your target fat burning range, which is between 65% and 75% of your max heart rate. Keep your heart rate between these two numbers and you will burn fat not muscle.

     

    5. Lift weights. More muscle means a faster metabolism, which in turn means more calories burned throughout the day. Lifting weights is key to fat loss and lean muscle retention.

     

    6. if you do cardio and weights on the same days, do weights first, followed by cardio. If you are reasonably cardiovascularly fit, I would recommend 20 - 30 minutes of interval training for cardio. THis is done on the following pattern: 2 minutes with your heart rate within the target numbers, and then one minute when you jack your heart rate to about 80% of your max range (so you would sprint for a minute to get your heart rate really up there). But only for one minute. After this one minute of sprinting, be sure to take two minutes to bring your heart rate back down again before you jack it back up again. Doing cardio at above your target range for longer than 90 seconds has shown to burn muscle and not fat! This would be counterproductive. To monitor my heart rate, I use a heart rate monitor. if you are not sure how to calculate your range, it is 220 minus your age, multiplied by 65 %. This is your lower target. Then 220 minus your age multiplied by 75% gives you your upper target. So if you are 29 years old, that would be:

     

    (220 - 29) * 65% = 124

    (220 - 29) * 75% = 143.

     

    So you would keep you heart rate between 124 and 143 when doing cardio to ensure you are burning fat and not lean muscle. You would be surprised at how many people do not have a cardio clue!

     

     

    7. Try, if you can, to exercise first thing in the a.m. ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. Since your glycogen stores are depleted in the a.m., your body dips into your fat stores sooner.

     

    8. While some people may disagree with this one, NEVER go to bed hungry. I am not saying to eat a full course meal 10 seconds before bedtime. But do not go to bed hungry either. The night time is when your body repairs the damage you have done in the gym. It needs fuel to do so. Eat a light snack, healthy snack if you find that it is bed time and you are out of fuel and starving. You should never be starving anyway. You should be eating small meals frequently throughout the day so you never find yourself starving. Starving yourself slows down your metabolism, reduces lean muscle tissue and leaves you feeling grumpy, tired and lousy to be around (oops- I am speaking from personal experience ).

     

    9. When lifting, technique, form and tempo are critical to seeing the fastest possible results. make sure that your muscles are doing the lifting, not momentum, for example. Complete reps in a slow, controlled and focused manner. Slow it down and feel the burn. Post muscle workout soreness for a few days is a good thing. It is the result of inflamed muscle tissue, which in turn is part of the repair process making that muscle stronger and leaner. If you do not get sore, improve your technique, slow down your reps to really feel the burn, or increase your intensity.

     

    10. if you plateau, let us know so we can provide you with tips on how to zap your body out of it.

     

    11. Do not do the same exercises for a body part longer than three consecutive weeks. Change it up to keep your muscles guessing. if you body gets used to what you are doing, your lifting will not be as effective or efficient anymore.

     

    12. 80 % of your results are from nutrition. Nutrition is key to losing body fat. Reduce fats and simple carbs. Breads are a definite no no if you are trying to shed body fat. Take a look at what everybody eats under "What are the staples of your diet" string of messages. Complex fibrous veggies, with high protein beans like lentils and Red kidney beans and low fat unsweetened soy milk mixed with some soy proetin powder seem to work well for losing body fat. So are the Yves faux meat products that are high in protein and low in carbs. What works for me is to consume a macronutrient combonation of about 40: 40: 20. 40 % of calories from protein, 40 % from carbs, and 20 % from fat. This sounds complex but it really is not. No need to do calculations with everything you eat. Just remember to try and consume roughly equal amounts of protein and carbs at each meal, with little fat, and you will be on your way to a leaner you!!!

     

    Those are things that I have learned over the years and have worked for me. I am sure they work for others too if their goal too is to decease body fat.

  11. Hi guys!!!

     

    Kollision and Co - sometimes it is difficult to convey the emotion or tone with which the words are being said (or typed). SO nobody get upset unless it is CLEAR that somebody is being hostile, okay

     

    Co, please do not allow yourself to be alienated by the misunderstanding. I can assure you that we all mean well here And thank you for coming to this forum and wanting to be educated on these issues. I commend you for that, because many people do not want to learn anything and want to continue living in ignorrance and wilful blindness. I therefore commend you that you are here, asking for, and willing to listen to the fishes' side of the story!! There are a multitude of reasons why not to eat fish. Here is some info that you might find of interest:

     

    Health reasons to avoid fish:

    Mainstream medical and nutrition industry purport that fish are good sources of essential fatty acids. However, the high amounts of fat and cholesteral in many fish and the lack of fiber in ALL fish make fish a poor choice. Fish are also often high in mercury and other environmental toxins that have no place in an optimal diet. Fish oils have ben popularized as an aid against everything from heart problems to arthritis. The bad news about fish oils is that omega - 3s in fish oils are highly unstable molecules that tend to decompose and, in the process, unleash dangerous free radicals. Research has shown that omega - 3s are found in a more stable form in vegetables, fruits and beans. All the pollution of the oceans are absorbed through the flesh of the fish and so when we eat fish, we are pretty much eating a highly contaminated "food." For more info on the ways in which fish is bad for your health, please email the Physicians Committee For Responsble Medicine and request free info about how fish is bad for you. They will send you whatever proof you need with pleasure. Email them at [email protected]. or visit their website at www.pcrm.org.

     

     

     

    ETHICAL/COMPASSIONATE REASONS:

    Contrary to what the fishing industry and most governments would have us believe, fish DO in fact feel pain. They just do not have the vocal chords to voice it. Fishes capacity for pain and suffering have been studied and documented by some of the world's leading marine biologists. Hauled from the deep, fish experience an excruciatingly painful decompression, followed by a slow, distressing death by suffocation. I would hate to be suffocated. Just put yourself in the animals' shoes. Imagine drowing in water. What a horrible and scary death that would be. Fish drown and suffocate OUT of water.

     

    Again, no living creature wants a hook in its mouth. Again, put yourself in the animals' shoes.

     

    I had fish when I was litle, and I could tell you that fish DO have personalities of their own. I know it is hard to beleive or picture but it is true. They are every bit as interesting and unique and precious as other animals. And they are no less innocent and deserving of our protection. In fact, if we fel sorry for animals generally because they are voiceless and defenseless, we should feel the most sorry for fish and bugs (like you correctly suggest), because neither have ANY vocal chords and no limbs with which to kick with and defend themselves with. THis fact alone calls for compassion, mercy and protection.

     

     

    Moreover, the demand for fish supports industries which I am sure you DO find cruel and unacceptable. For example, if you buy Canandian fish products (including mussels, shrimps, etc.) you are supporting the mass slaughter of baby harp seals in front of their mothers. Please visit www.seashepherd.org for information on the boycott, the campaign and how you can help end this barbaric and heart wrenching cruelty.

     

    As somebody mentioned. fishing nets are like huge bulldozers in the ocean that catch not just the targetted fish, but others caught in its path, like dolphins and other precious marine wildlife. These animals are left to die in the nets, and the trawlers have openly referred to this as "trawler trash." I do not want to bring God into this, but I must say that refering to God's creatures as "trawler trash" is sacrilige and I find it very offensive and enraging. No innocent life is "trash". It is precious. What we need here is a paradigm shift. I believe that only an empthathetic and merciful spirit, with a reverance for ALL life, will be able to truly heal the world. Indeed, non violence not only starts with your plate, but also with the bug crawling across your kitchen floor or annoyingly buzzing around your head when you are tryint to sleep. Of course, there is no such thing as an "evil" bug that is TRYING to piss us off. All animals want to do is to survive.

     

     

    The ocean is full of biodiversity and natural wonders and magnificent majestic creatures that need to be protected and respected, not vaccumed up and then tossed as "trawler trash."

     

    I commend you for choosing the lives of cows, chickens and pigs over your tastebuds. Your conscience, your soul and your health are all better off for it I can assure you. But please do not forget that fish, too, are animals, not vegetables, and need us to be able to hear their plight and pleas for mercy, especially since they cannot voice it at all.

     

    I totally agree with you that it would be hypocritical for a veg person to squish an innocent and helpless spider if they are veg for ethical and compassionate reasons. There is no reason to feel empathy and mercy toward fish and yet have no problem or remorse for mindlessly, arrogantly and thoughtlessly snuffing out the life of a tiny tiny creature with your big giant human foot or hand. BUgs may be annoying, but all they want to do is live, and it would take nothing from us to simply gently remove them outdoors and set them free like Kollision does (and like I do). You rock Kollision!! Indeed, I urge everybody who has managed to find compassion in their hearts for animals to apply that philosophy to all living things. Choose life or killing, kindess over the arrogant and thoughtless human disregard for the life of another creature, no matter how small, no matter what species.

     

    Imagine how hard that little spider has worked to survive in this big bad world full of giant human feet. To just flush its efforts at survival down the toilet in 2 seconds with mindless human arrogance is uacceptable. So we should thank our lucky stars that we were born as humans and have mercy on those unfortunate beings that did not hit the jack pot when they came into this world as bugs, fish, cows or any NON human form.

     

    We welcome you to our community and hope we can inspire you to become fish free. Please do not be afraid to speak candidly hear.

     

    Natalie

  12. Lelle your so funny!!!!

     

    I think the fact that he has NEVER eaten meat is VERY impressive, alomost impossible to believe. Really?? Never as in never ever????

     

    Just because he is vegetarian, that does not mean that he wears animal products though. Only Big ben or maybe Rob can asnwer that question for sure. I know that when I irst became vegetarian, I also immediately gave up wearing animal skins. To me, it is all part and parcel of the same beleif - animals are not ours to eat or wear or use in entertainment. Wearing a cow is no less acceptable or ethical than eating one, right???? At least that is how I saw it right from the very start.

     

    Anyway, Big ben is still an awesome guy for being animal flesh free for his entire life. That is AMAZING Big Ben. Thanks for caring about the animals and the planet.

  13. Hi Willpeavy,

     

    NO I study at Osgoode Hall Law School (the second biggest in Canada, next to University of Toronto).

     

    ya I know what you mean. I think if I worked for these wonderful groups I would feel totally guilty about taking a paycheck, like I was taking the ANIMALS' money!!!! And they need all the cash than they could get. So i too, figure, make lots of money doing commercial litigation, be loaded, so that I may make large donations to my favourite charities. BUt I have to tell you though that Greenpeace would not be one of them. Greenpeace is one of the richest environmental corps and bureacracies in the world now, and really, they are starting to come dangerously close to corruption if they are not there already.

     

    To find out more about what I mean, please go to www.seashepherd.org and read Captian Watson's newsletter entitled something like "Going against the Current". he has a blurb in there about Greenpeace. I think this amazing man is more than qualified and fit to be a Greenpeace critic. he, as the co-founder of Greenpeace back in the 1970s, and his criticisms of Greenpeace are insightful, fair, coherent and backed up by evidence and experience and outcomes of direct interaction with Greenpeace.

     

    I too was a Greenpeace activist and supporter, but not so much anymore since it is becoming increasingly evident that Greenpeace has sold out the animals for the sake of profit and popularity.

     

    FOr example, Greenpeace has been inactive in the seal slaughter campaign and has pretty much suggested that geentically modified foods take priority over the mass slaughter of baby seals in front of their horrified mothers. I personally think that the latter is more urgent and pressing, since these are sentient, innocent creatures that are being subjeted to mass murder and are DYING RIGHT NOW. Anti-GMO campaigns can wait - the clubbed, stabbed and dying baby seals cannot!!!

     

    Great talking with you willpeavy. You rock.

  14. Indigenous Designs Announces That It Will Not Sell Australian Merino Wool

     

    After being contacted by PETA about the cruel practices of the Australian wool industry, where lambs are partially skinned alive during a procedure called "mulesing" and millions of sheep are shipped to horrible deaths every year in countries that have no animal welfare standards, California-based retailer Indigenous Designs has announced that it will not sell Australian merino wool until these practices end.

     

    In a letter sent to PETA, Joshua Laytart from Indigenous Designs writes, "We feel the fair treatment of the planet and all the people and the animals which live on it to be our top priority. This is why Indigenous Designs does not support the practice of mulesing and the live exporting of sheep. ... Indigenous Designs does not intend to knowingly sell products using Australian merino wool until mulesing and live exporting of sheep has ended."

     

    Mulesing is a painful mutilation in which Australian farmers use gardening shears to slice chunks of skin and flesh from lambs' backsides—without any painkillers—in a crude attempt to reduce maggot infestation, even though humane methods could be used instead. Every year, millions of Australian sheep are shipped to the Middle East in open-decked ships through all weather extremes, mired in their own waste, on journeys that take weeks. Sick and injured sheep are thrown overboard to the sharks or ground up alive in mincing machines. When the survivors reach the Middle East, their throats are slit while they are still conscious.

     

    Indigenous Designs joins a fast-growing list of prestigious retailers and top fashion designers—including Abercrombie & Fitch, J.Crew, Timberland, and Limited Brands—that have announced that they will not use Australian merino wool until mulesing and live exports end.

     

    Please write to Indigenous Designs to thank the company for its commitment to animal welfare:

    Joshua Laytart

    Indigenous Designs

    975 Corporate Center Pkwy., #110

    Santa Rosa, CA 95407

    707-571-7702 (fax)

    [email protected]

     

    Join Indigenous Designs in taking a stand against cruelty to animals by refusing to buy garments made from merino wool, most of which comes from Australia.

     

    C'mon guys - take two minutes right now and email Mr. Laytart thanking him and his company for choosing to support this boycott of Australian wool. be sure to say that as a result of his exemplary decision, you will give them your future business instead of company's like United Colours of Benetton who have refused to take an ethical stand on this issue.

     

    try to put in a few minutes of activism daily - you don't have to even get up off your but to help animals and make a difference. Isn't email great!!???

  15. Sea Shepherd Slams Disney in the International Herald Tribune

     

    New York Times reporter Keith Bradsher’s story Hong Kong Disneyland is in the Soup was published in the June 16th edition of the New York Times.

     

    The full story can be found at: http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/15/business/shark.php

     

    The story of Disneyland’s plans to serve sharkfin soup at Hong Kong Disneyland is now international.

     

    The story reports that schoolchildren in Hong Kong are now organizing petitions against Disneyland.

     

    References and quotes from the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society include:

     

    "They say it's cultural - does that mean Disneyland in Japan is now going to be having whale burgers?" asked Paul Watson, the founder and president of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society in Friday Harbor, Washington.

     

     

    The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has begun marketing T-shirts showing Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck waving knives and bearing faintly sadistic grins as they stand over three bleeding sharks that have lost their fins; Watson said that he hoped Disney would sue, because he believed the shirts were a legally protected parody and because a lawsuit would draw attention to the issue.

     

     

    Disneyland Hong Kong is defended in the article by Cheung Yu-yan, a member of Hong Kong's legislature who was elected by the city's restaurateurs. Cheung Yu-yan said that chefs were only serving what the public wanted, and warned that any other kind of soup would be much less profitable. "You can't get any money out of your patrons if you don't sell shark's fin soup," which can command up to $150 a bowl at the best restaurants, he said. In a veiled appeal to people’s fears, he joked that if the sharks were not eaten, they might be prowling near swimming beaches instead.

     

    “The truth is that there are few sharks prowling beaches but there are thousands of human beings maliciously prowling the world’s oceans with the intent to maim and murder sharks.” Said Captain Paul Watson, President of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.

  16. I posted this a while back on the old forum but felt it was worthy of a re-post. Written by a Canadian Professor of law. A must read for anybody who considers themselves an intellectual, veggie or not!!!

     

    "Animals Always Pay" , by Ronald Sklar, Professor of Law at McGill University.

     

    If we have to slaughter cattle en masse because of mad-cow fears, will we think about their suffering? asks law professor RONALD SKLAR

     

    In the introduction to Dominion: the Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy, Matthew Scully relates the story of the foot-and-mouth plague that swept through Great Britain and then Europe in 2001, beginning with "one pig at a British slaughterhouse." It eventually resulted in the slaughter of 10-million animals -- pigs, cows and sheep.

     

    The initial reaction in Great Britain to the news of "one pig" and the confirmation of the disease it carried was similar to the reaction this week to the news of one cow in Alberta confirmed to have "mad cow disease" or bovine spongiform encephalopathy. The announcement sparked fear bordering on panic at the possible economic impact on the farmers involved, the meat industry and, finally, on the country itself.

     

    There is a further similarity between the two situations: Nobody in Great Britain then, or in Canada now, is talking about the impact on the animals. It's as if the animals that will have to be killed are not living beings, only "commodities." Their value is solely economic; no worth is given to their life. We don't think about how they will be killed: the shootings, the bulldozing of the bodies into pits, the terror for the animals. Many, probably most, will not even be infected with BSE. But the herds must be destroyed, that's all there is to it.

     

    In his book, Matthew Scully says that a change took place in England and Europe when the actual slaughters began. The scenes left those who watched on television or read about them in the press "sick and sad and empty." He writes: "One knew that something had gone terribly wrong. Something deep and serious and beyond the power of vaccines or borders or cullings to contain. We saw, in all their simplicity, the facts of the case. Here were innocent, living creatures, and they deserved better, and we just can't treat life that way."

     

    Everyone hopes we won't have to endure such scenes in Canada, but if the slaughters of cows do come, will we have that flash of insight? Will that insight bring us to ask the broader question of how animals are routinely treated on our industrial or "factory" farms? Can we possibly undertake that moral self-examination even without the impetus of scenes that make us "sick and sad and empty?"

     

    I should perhaps confess to my bias in such matters. I originated and teach a course called Animal Law/Welfare/Rights at McGill University's Faculty of Law and am a member of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. I believe, along with PETA and similar animal-advocacy organizations, that animals deserve better than the callousness and mistreatment they receive at humanity's hands.

     

     

    Nowhere is that callousness and mistreatment worse than on our large industrial farms. Until they meet up with the unnecessary cruelty and inhumanity at the slaughterhouse, beef cattle have it relatively better than the rest of the animals. They are not imprisoned in "battery cages" and sheds by the hundreds of thousands, as are poultry and pigs. Nor do they spend the four months of their life cramped into stalls so small there is no room even to turn their heads or stretch out into a natural resting position, as are veal calves; or confined in stalls for 10 months of the year, emerging only when taken to milking machines and kept constantly pregnant only to lose their calves within hours of birth to the veal and pet food industries, as are dairy cows -- all in the name of producing cheap food.

     

    There are moral issues here that we refuse to recognize. When one group with the power to advance its own self-interests exploits a group completely lacking in power, the powerful group has to face the question of the morality of its conduct. It was that way with slavery; it is that way with our use of animals. As Mr. Scully writes: "When a quarter-million birds are stuffed into a single shed, unable even to flap their wings, when more than a million pigs inhabit a single farm, never once stepping into the light of day, when every year tens of millions of creatures go to their death without knowing the least measure of human kindness, it is time to question old assumptions, to ask what we are doing and what spirit drives us on."

     

    As a society, we haven't asked those questions. If we were at least to admit that there is a moral issue, and that we need to open a dialogue among ourselves about the extent to which we can continue this exploitation, it would be a start toward a new plane of human existence.

     

    There are some significant signs that this is beginning to happen. Books like Mr. Scully's and lead articles in The New York Times Magazine and The New Yorker on the animal-welfare -- or "rights" if you wish -- movement have appeared within the past year. McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's, reacting to pressure from PETA, have declared they will monitor animal conditions on their supplier farms. The United Kingdom, Germany, Sweden and Switzerland have outlawed "battery cages" for chickens. Sweden has also outlawed veal crates and farrowing crates, which confine pigs in cages during pregnancy and the birth and suckling period, totally restricting the movements of these active animals. In 1998, the European Council enacted a directive "Concerning the Protection of Animals Kept for Farming Purposes" with the goal of avoiding "any unnecessary pain or injury" to farm animals.

     

    Animal-care committees in universities vet research involving animals. Laws banning medical research on the great apes have been passed in Great Britain and New Zealand and are being considered in other countries. (No medical research on great apes is currently being carried out in Canada.)

     

    Call it a "right" as do American law professors Tom Regan and Steven Wise; call it a "basic moral principle" as does Princeton philosopher Peter Singer in his seminal book, Animal Liberation, or call it "common human decency and kindness," as does Matthew Scully.

     

    Whatever we call it, it's now time to give to the non-human animals that share this world with us the humane consideration they deserve.

     

    And let's not wait until we have to watch mass cow slaughterings on television.

     

    Ronald Sklar is a professor in McGill University's Faculty of Law.

  17. Everybody,

     

    Please visit the website of www.seashepherd.org. Sea Shepherd Conservation society is the most agressive, active and effective defender of marine wildlife in the world today, even mor so than Greenpeace.

     

    MY shameful government pretty much has tried to sell us the same kind of bull with respect to the mass slaughter of Canandian harp seals off the eastern coast of Canada. According to the Canadian Government, the massive seal slaughter is justified because the seals are eating too much cod and ruining the ecosystem. How stupid do governments think the general public is? After decades of mismanagement and the resulting collapse of the East Coast cod fishing industry, the Canadian DFO has blamed the harp seals for the demise of cod. They have declared war on seals in the hopes that massive seal kills will bring back the cod and keep their fishermen working (as sealers). IN fact, cod is NOT a major food source of the harp and hood seal diet. According to the world's leading authoirty on harp seals, Dr. David Lavigne, harp seals only utilize young cod for 3% of their diet. More importantly, the remaining 97% of fish that the seals eat are actually predators on young cod. Remove the harp seal, and the return of cod could be hindered- not helped - by a significant increase in predatory fish eating cod.

     

    But the governments think we are all too stupid to learn this.

     

    here are the facts on the largest mass slaughter of marine wildlife - i.e. the yearly Canadian seal hunt:

     

    The slaughter of seals is incredibly cruel - a post mortem survey has shown that 42% of these babies are skinned alive and left to die an agonizing death while their helpless mothers look on in horror.

     

    It is a threat to the survival of the species.

     

    It is a threat to the survival of cod.

     

    It is a slaughter done mainly for unessential, vanity and luxury items and thus, unnecessary.

     

    It is immoral to kill animals in front of their horrified mothers.

     

    It is unethical to slaughter newborn seal pups (about 95% of the seals to be slaughtered are babies less than four weeks old).

     

    WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO TO HELP SAVE THESE BABIES:

     

    1. SIGN THE INTERNATIONAL ONLINE PETITION demanding that Canadian government stop this slaughter. Available at www.seashepherd.org or call 1-360-370-5650 to request a copy or contact the sea shepherd's via email at [email protected].

     

     

    2. Boycott Canadian Seafood. As veggies, we all don't eat seafood anyway, but please ask your non-veggie spouses, families and friends to boycott CANADIAN seafood. Why? Because sealing is done by Canadian fishermen in the off season. The "Boycott Canadian seafood campaign" is meant to show the Canadian government that until these fishermen stop sealing (which contributes to less than 3% or so of their income) the world will not buy Canadian seafood. Since the only thing the fishing industry and the gov cares about is money, it is meant to hit them where it hurts.

     

    FOr all non-veggies, when shopping for fish ask your grocery store manager if the fish is Canadian and explain why you will not buy Canadian seafood. Ask grocery stores to boycott Canadian as well. Same with restaurants when you are out to eat. Managers know where their fish comes from.

     

    3. Email the Canadian prime minister and fisheries minister.

     

    Canadian Prime Minister:

     

    The Right Honourable Paul Martin

    [email protected]fax 613-941-6900.

     

    Department of Fisheries and Oceans

    The Honourable Mr. Geoff Regan

    [email protected] and [email protected]fax 613-996-6988 telephone 613-996-3085

     

     

    Write and email also the Canadian embassador to the United States. Don't have the info for that one but any internet savy person can get that info. if anybody does, please post a post in this thread with that info.

     

    Focus on economic grounds instead of ethical ones. Politicians are generally not swayed by moral arguments. Tell them that you have been informed of the truth by animal and environmental protection groups like Sea Shephred Conservation Society, Greenpeace, International Fund for Animal Welfare, etc. and tell them that you will not buy any Canadian seafood until the seal hunt is permanently banned. Tell them that you will ask your friends, coworkers and family to do the same and threaten to write letters to editors in your local newspapers to reach thousands more people.

     

     

    Write letters to the editor asking folks in your community to join the boycott of Canadian seafood to help baby seals from being skinned alive. Expose the cruelty of the Canadian government and Canadian fishing industry. Speak about it on your cell phone in a grocery store line up, even if there is really nobody on the other end of the line. The people around you won't know.

     

     

    Just a final note on Greenpeace. Greenpeace has in the past failed to take active and direct action to help Canadian baby harp seals. perhaps we can all contact Greenpeace and ask them to get more involved and make the ending of this mass blood bath a priority as well.

     

     

    Thanks to all of you who will take the time to contact the Canadian authorities demanding an end to the seal slaughter. The babies need us - they cannot speak for themselves. PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS POST ON ANY OTHER FORUM AND EMAIL THE ONLINE PETITION INFO TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING NON-VEGGIES (ESPECIALLY TO NON-VEGGIES, SINCE THEY HAVE THE POWER TO REDUCE CANADIAN FISH SALES) AND ASK THEM TO AT LEAST SIGN THE ONLINE PETITION. IT TAKES ONLY THREE SECONDS TO HELP SAVE BABIES. Again, the online petition is available at www.seashepherd.org.

     

    Thanks for reading this And note also that the Japanese government is cruelly tricking and stabbing dolphins and Disney World is slicing the fins off of fully live and conscious sharks to serve shark fin soup so affluent people can impress their friends. For more info on these and other current campaigns and atrocities against the marine wildlife, visit www.seashepherd. org.

  18. HI savebabe,

     

    GOOD FOR YOU that you wrote to Iceland about their whaling policy. BUT I am curious what prompted you to target Iceland? YOu might want to check out www.seashepherd.org. Sea Shepherd Conservation society is the most agressive, active and effective defender orf marine wildlife in the world today.

     

    MY shameful government pretty much has tried to sell us the same kind of bull with respect to the mass slaughter of Canandian harp seals off the eastern coast of Canada. According to the Canadian Government, the massive seal slaughter is justified because the seals are eating too much cod and ruining the ecosystem. How stupid do governments think the general public is? After decades of mismanagement and the resulting collapse of the East Coast cod fishing industry, the Canadian DFO has blamed the harp seals for the demise of cod. They have declared war on seals in the hopes that massive seal kills will bring back the cod and keep their fishermen working (as sealers). IN fact, cod is NOT a major food source of the harp and hood seal diet. According to the world's leading authoirty on harp seals, Dr. David Lavigne, harp seals only utilize young cod for 3% of their diet. More importantly, the remaining 97% of fish that the seals eat are actually predators on young cod. Remove the harp seal, and the return of cod could be hindered- not helped - by a significant increase in predatory fish eating cod.

     

    But the governments think we are all too stupid to learn this.

     

    here are the facts on the largest mass slaughter of marine wildlife - i.e. the yearly Canadian seal hunt:

     

    The slaughter of seals is incredibly cruel - a post mortem survey has shown that 42% of these babies are skinned alive and left to die an agonizing death while their helpless mothers look on in horror.

     

    It is a threat to the survival of the species.

     

    It is a threat to the survival of cod.

     

    It is a slaughter done mainly for unessential, vanity and luxury items and thus, unnecessary.

     

    It is immoral to kill animals in front of their horrified mothers.

     

    It is unethical to slaughter newborn seal pups (about 95% of the seals to be slaughtered are babies less than four weeks old).

     

    WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO TO HELP SAVE THESE BABIES:

     

    1. Boycott Canadian Seafood. As veggies, we all don't eat seafood anyway, but please ask your non-veggie spouses, families and friends to boycott CANADIAN seafood. Why? Because sealing is done by Canadian fishermen in the off season. The "Boycott Canadian seafood campaign" is meant to show the Canadian government that until these fishermen stop sealing (which contributes to less than 3% or so of their income) the world will not buy Canadian seafood. Since the only thing the fishing industry and the gov cares about is money, it is meant to hit them where it hurts.

     

    FOr all non-veggies, when shopping for fish ask your grocery store manager if the fish is Canadian and explain why you will not buy Canadian seafood. Ask grocery stores to boycott Canadian as well. Same with restaurants when you are out to eat. Managers know where their fish comes from.

     

    2. Email the Canadian prime minister and fisheries minister.

     

    Canadian prime Minister:

     

    The Right Honourable Paul Martin

    [email protected]fax 613-941-6900.

     

    Department of Fisheries and Oceans

    The Honourable Mr. Geoff Regan

    [email protected] and [email protected]fax 613-996-6988 telephone 613-996-3085

     

     

    Write and email also the Canadian embassador to the united States. Don;t have the info for that one but any internet savy person can get that info. if anybody does, please post a post in this thread with that info.

     

    Focus on economic grounds instead of ethical ones. Politicians are generally not swayed by moral arguments. Tell them that you are perfectly informed of the real facts as set outr above and tell them that you will not buy any Canadian seafood until the seal hunt is permanently banned. Tell them that you will ask your friends, coworkers and family to do the same and threaten to write letters to editors in your local newspapers to reach thousands more people.

     

    3. SIGN THE INTERNATIONAL ONLINE PETITION demanding that Canadian government stop this slaughter. Available at www.seashepherd.org or call 1-360-370-5650 to request a copy or contact the sea shepherd's via email at [email protected].

     

    Write letters to the editor asking folks in your community to join the boycott of Canadian seafood to help baby seals from being skinned alive. Expose the cruelty of the Canadian government and Canadian fishing industry. Speak about it on your cell phone in a grocery store line up, even if there is realy nobody on the other end of the line. The people around you won't know.

     

    natalie

  19. Ash

     

    Oh my gosh it is ironic that you should mention the lottery adn your car cuz I just bought a lotto ticket for the first time today!!! Don't usually play because i am one of those unlucky people that NEVER win ANYTHING. But I am so hard up on cash that I need $$ so I played. If I won a lot of money I would totally buy a whole bunch of those peta tickets and all of you would be my guests, We would all sit at the best table right next to Kim BAsinger, ALec baldiwn, Charlize Theron, Joaquin Pheonix, and other famous animal lovers!!! We would be royalty for one night!!! Then I would take us all to Cancun Mexico from there cuz I love cancun even though I almost drowned there.

     

    And as far as cars, my mustang (nobody get excited - it is only a four banger) recently started dying. Something about a timing belt slipping and breaking a tooth, pistons, cylinders, and a whole bunch of other stuff that I have no clue about. Anyway, I took it to one mechanic who said that it was pretty much in need of a partial engine rebuild, which would cost upwards of $2000. Not worth it cuz my car is a 1993 with a black book value of probably not even a thousand. So luckily my dad's long lost cousin who is also a mechanic fixed it up for me for $850 just enough so I can get another year out of it - until I am done school for good.

     

    I HATE spending money on car trouble. I want to have my cake and eat it too I guess - driving and not paying for it!!!

     

    But my car has seen me through 13 good years with no major let downs so I cannot complain. She is a good girl. I call her Stella. Stella wants to retire - but I hope she can give me another year.

  20. Hi Jon,

     

    I have great respec for teachers. God bless you yor job ain't easy and is very important.

     

    What subjects do you teach? Can you squeeze into your lessons animal rights anywhere? I think it is imperative for young, impressionable children to learn about the truth behind animal consumption at a young age. I also think that it is imperative that kids learn how to analyze media messages. For example, those stupid commercials that portray happy cows and happy chickens etc - kids only get ONE side of the story, and it is the wrong, untruthful side. ANimals are NOT happy to be slaughtered and eaten, and most are not raised in ideal, heavenly, lush conditions like the commercials suggest. I wish more schools woyuld trach kids about reading and watching tv more critically, and about rejecting the status quo as a self-evident truth.

     

    natalie

  21. Anthony,

     

    So your a skateboarding legend, eh??

     

    I tried skateboarding but lasted only about 5 seconds before I feel on my ass.

     

    I would love top learn how to surf, but somebody said that if you cannot skateboard, you won't be able to surf. Apparently, before one surfs, one should learn how to skateboard. Is that true??

    natalie

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