bobbycore

My best motivation is to prove all those trainers wrong. To show them that meat consumption is not the only way to reach your goals. And I have gained more size and strength as a vegeterian than what I did as a meat eater.

I think that the people who are veggie/vegan body builders are across the board more intelligent. We have to find more way to get our protien and clean carbs, we have to find substitutes for supliments and we still have to keep up on new scientific data about the bodies processes. Now I am not saying that we are all rocket scientists, or scientists at all, but I think we are all decently brainy!

BURRITOS ARE GOOD!

the site is pretty cool. I might have to make dinner tonight for everyone.

1 cliff peanut butter bar, 1 cliff peanut butter choco chip bar

2 apples

can of amy's black bean and veggie soup

protien shake

1/2 cup oatmeal w/ strawberries

5 oz almonds

3 oz mixed nuts

congrats on the bench, that is impressive.

damn I gotta get myself some cliff builder bars. I love the plain cliff bars and eat them every day!!!

Thats alot of food robert!

 

I dont have a job right now still studying but applied to some places.

 

And bobby, you must have a high paying job!

I barback. Basically I make sure the bartenders in my bar have everything that they need. It is a lot of lifting and a lot of running.

The reason I made that much is because the kentucky derby is tomorrow and the week of derby is crazy here. And because there are an extra 500,000 people here from out of town, the bars are always slammed.

Cool news though, micheal jordan, cuba gooding jr and tom brady are amung the celebrities that are suppose to be in my bar. mj and cbj were there last night.

OHHHHH and all the professional wrestlers for wwe go through years of training camp here in kentucky so I saw a bunch of them last night too.

what are cliff builder bars? I have not seen those yet!

I made $300 last night in tips from one of my jobs and another $75 in salary pay from my first job. that is $375 in one day!!!!

here is what is in mine.

viatamins

vitamin c

multi vitamin

amino acid

b-complex

2 cliff bars (peanut butter and chocolate mint)

phad thai

this is all I have right now. I have to buy some food later like a few bananas and apples. I am still working 16-19 hours per day on 2-3 hours of sleep so I have not gotten into the gym.

I do not let it bother me. there is two ways to view this.

1. people might associate you with eating real meat and think you were not strong enough to stay vegan.

or

2. you can tell that same person that it is actually fake meat and see their suprised reaction at how good it looks and smells.

I have made a lot of people question whether they can eat a veggie diet by just cooking my fake meats at work for them to smell and see. People need to know that there are very good tasting alternatives out there to meat.

that is really deep, wow! Have you invested in some good high IU viatamin E? Yeah mine are not that bad......yet

Overall I think it is a good confident looking pose. Your chest looks good, your stomach looks good even for being quater turned) and your legs and glutes look good. The only thing that I think it takes away from is your lower legs because it is hard to see your calves.

calipers are more accurate than say a weight scale but calipers can be off from anywhere between 1-3% either way of their reading. you are not going to get acurate relsults unless you want to do the aqua submerged body fat test.....but calipers give you the closest and are most reasonable.

I do not eat vegan at this time. I have been contemplating it for the last few months but have not fully decided. I like knowing that no animal had to die for my food consumption.

I started out with vegeterianism about a year ago after spending my first night away from my ex girlfriend. It was a peaceful time for me and it gave me plenty of time to think about everything that had been tugging at my brain. One thing that I had been thinking about for a while was eating a veggie diet.

The thought process was as simple as, why not. I could not give myself one good reason to eat meat outside of the thickneck theory that meat helps you get big.

Upon starting my veggie diet i started to think about the fact that most of the ways that animals die paralell the way that we are murdered as humans. A chickens head gets cut off, a cows throat gets slit or gets shot. That is when the socialist aspect came in and I started to speak out agains over consumption and factory farming.

Recently I started as a street team activist for peta, which is an easy feat, and currently have 3 kfc protests that I will be attending. I started my switch from whey to soy protien and eat absolutley no meat at all.

People always try and tell me that eating better would give me more energy and make my rest at night more beneficial......boy they lied. I get 7 or 8 hours of sleep every night just to wake up in the morning tired as hell. I have given up on trying to get "a good nights sleep" and simply comprimise with 7 or 8 hours of rest.

All in all I feel pretty good about myself. Yes it is a little harder as a vegeterian/vegan to take in as many grams of protien as a peice of chicken or turkey but beans make you fart and that is funny......sometimes.

Another part of not eating meat is my stubborn ass trying to prove to people that you do not have to eat meat to get big. Lead by example right!

that is an interesting formula, I wish I knew what my maintaining calorie intake was. I have always been eitehr cutting or bulking. bulking at over 3000 and cutting at about 1800-2000.

I would be interested in reading parts of your course book on bulking if possible!

I take vit-E and put it on my chest 3 times a week in the gym and plain lotion (provided in a pump container on the wall by the gym) the rest of the time. I am scared of stretch marks. I got them really bad when I was a kid because I was fat and then I grew 6 inches in 4 months. I have enough already.

Out of curiousity, what body type are you. I am an ectomorph to the fullest extent of the term. An extremley hard gainer with very little muscle mass naturally.

I hate carrots, but the rest of your day sounded amazing. I am vegeterian with a very strong lean towards vegan. I just do not want to call myself vegan because 1. sometimes I eat eggs if I can get them farm fresh and 2. I do not watch ingredients close enough to know which is vegan and which is not. I know the basics, whey is not vegan and things like that. But there are some tricky bitch ingredients that suprise me every time!

are you vegan?

breakfast

healthstart raisin bran

2 oz nuts

apple

snack

lemon poppyseed cliffbar

3 oz mixed nuts and raisins

prework out

apple

1/2 cup oatmeal

mixed fruit 5oz

post work out protien shake

55 g protien

60g carbs

post work out meal

tofu pad thai 1 lb

snack

2 bananas

dinner

wrap: tomato tortilla, 1/2 avacado, fried tofu, spinach lettuce, tomato and spinach and artichoke hummos.

glass of chocolate silk

pre sleep snack

2 peices of tpast w/ pb and honey

soy butter pecan ice cream

water goal intake for the day: 120oz

it is a light day for me, I still need to go shopping! I have a lot of phad thai though and that stuff is amazing!

it sounds like you are doing good, just remember to make sure your heart rate is getting up when you are doing anything cardio related. Also remember that body fat % is very hard to accuratley measure and even skin fold calipers are not accurate. I gaurentee hard work will turn results and I think you are on the right path.

hey robert

thanks for the advice

by the way im 5' 11 and way 155 and have 8% bodyfat

id like to be haevier, by about 10lbs

i didnt count the calories but im pretty sure there isn''t enough

i also take a super nutrion multi vitamin everyday

should i consider taking flax, iron or any other supplements

also have you ever tried vega(that triathlete mrp)

We are in the same ectomorph boat buddy. I just increased my calorie intake and changed my routine to put on about 20 lbs. What suppliments you should take really depend on what you are not getting from your diet or what you should be getting more of. Every day I take a B Complete, Viatamin C, Amino Acid Complete, L-Glutamine and a good mens multi.

Oh and by the way, if you put on 10 lbs you would be the same weight as I was when I started this bulk......and I am 6'2''. I am up to 169 now which means I have put 4 pounds on in 2.5 weeks.

breakfast

2 peices of toast with pb and honey

1/2 cup oatmeal with choc silk

1 pear

snack

2 handfuls of nut&raisin mix

1 serving super red protien in water

pre work out

3/4 cup oatmeal w/strawberries

apple

post work out shakes

protien shake (unknown kind, vegan friend gave it to me) 25 g protien per serving x2 and 4 carbs x2

glycoload shake 50 carbs 10 protien

post workout meal

can of Amy's Chili

a few nuts

snack

salad w/pear, raisins, tomato, fake cheese, fake ham, and only spinach lettuce

dinner

1 cup brocolli w/ lemon juice

2 fake brautworste

cup of orange juice w/ blueberry concentrate

pre-sleep snack

pita and spinach and artichoke hummos

2 peices of bread w/ pb and honey

all this with 150 oz of water, a multiple of vitamins and many trips to the restroom!

I am almost out of food to make again which means I need to go to the store. I am reaching for anything at this point that will work for me!

My main goal has always been simple yet elusive : get below 10 percent body fat and (presumeably) get real abs.

 

I've been working out for years and never really achieved this one goal. I used to be a vegan some years ago and recently decided to try it again but I'm concerned about trying to build muscle without meat. But I believe , really, that people should adopt a diet that reflects their ideals.

 

I'm currently in the United States Air Force and I'm working on not just my physical self but my intellectual and spiritual self as well.

 

So I believe in the ideals of a warfighter and I'm working on being a yogi and more on that at my web-log I recently started at

 

www.silverism.blogspot.com

 

My Goal is to get to that elusive 10 percent by AUG 1st.

 

My workouts are:

 

Monday, Wednesday, Friday : A full-body workout of

*25 minutes Yoga

*15 minutes boxing / kicking / sword-fighting drills

*35 minutes of weight lifting, sometimes done circuit style, sometimes focusing on one or two body-parts

*ab workout

*20 minutes low-impact cardio

*5 minutes stretch / cool down

 

Tuesday : squadron PC, usually some calisthenics and a 1.5 mile run done as quickly as possible (for me, between 9.5 and 11 minutes usually)

 

Thursday:

 

*Interval Cardio

---- 30 minutes moderate pace

-----2 minute sprint followed by 3 minute walk, repeat 5 times

-----30 minutes moderate pace

-----5 minute stretch

 

Saturday:

 

Long Cardio , 2-3 hours at moderate pace

 

Sunday : one hour ashtanga yoga and maybe a walk

 

No point in posting a diet plan since I'm transitioning over but work doesn't let me do too many snacks... I usually have a "power shake" first thing in the morning, then a good breakfast after my workout.

 

I think I will go ahead and post my current diet just for the record:

 

Shake

 

handful strawberries

instant coffee

sugar free choc syrup

protein powder

cup of Silk

glutamine powder

creatine powder

 

Breakfast

 

4 eggs

1/2 cup oatmeal

Boca Burger

sometimes some fruit

green tea

 

Lunch

 

Spinach

Almonds

Sweet Potato

Chicken or Tofu

 

Dinner

 

Mixed vegetables from frozen

Chicken, Tofu, or Tuna

brown rice

Sugar Free Fudgesicle

sometimes fruit

sometimes nuts

 

I think it's usually right around 2400 calories and I have been losing weight in small increments on this diet ... the main thing that makes the difference week-to-week is if I don't eat anything after 8pm until I wake up again in the morning.

 

Good site I'm looking forward to keeping my training log here and accomoplishing my goals.

 

Currently: 154.4 LBS

19.5% Body Fat (according to the Tanita Scale)

Height : 5'7"

It seems to me that you are eating a lot of calories in a few meals. What I would suggest is to break those meals up into 6 "snack" meals per day. This should help your body get all the nutrients it needs without extras left over in your stomach to turn to fat. This worked for me when I was cutting and I started out at 38% body fat and I am about 8 or 9 today.

Today was leg day from hell. I only did three things

1.squats

2.leg press

3.hammy curls

I did not try the 8x6x4 thing...I just went for it and did as much as I could 6 times and then the same at 5 times (barely got that on the leg press) and then 3-4 times. I tried to walk down the stairs to the gym and almost fell over.....

I got downstairs and looked at my thighs and my ass and they had swollen up bigger than they have ever been. Now, 1 hour later, they are still pumped up. I better eat a lot today.