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I know 70% Pea/30% Rice Protein has a really good amino acid score, 146. Is it better than other blends, or just straight rice or pea protein? I am looking for the optical rice and/or pea protein blend. I don't care about pretty flavors, textures etc. I just want the best replacement for casein protein. Thanks.

I squatted 235 x 5 today, figured out why my left knee was clicking, I've had tons of energy on my new diet. My sister also made pancakes which happened to be animal product free, which I feasted on post workout.

I never had trouble with milk or meat. I have seen this argument used tons of times when I tell people about my Crohn's/Ulcerative Colitis, it's a huge misconception and a poorly constructed argument. "Kyle, you shouldn't be eating meat or dairy". The fact of the matter is, depending on where the inflammation is in the small intestine determines the foods you have trouble eating. For instance, the primary source of inflammation in my small intestine gives me difficulty with pears, apples, bananas, raisins, grapes etc. I suspect it's the fructose in them because fruit sugar and food sugar has always killed me. Meat and dairy has always been my best bet to stave off weight loss. And while I agree I have come to realize drinking milk is unnatural, lots of ethnic backgrounds can tolerate milk just fine despite the obvious slew of health complications associated with it later in life. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a vegan diet would wreck my innards if it's not properly conceived. I don't understand why you guys are constructing arguments against me. It's starting to make me doubt this forum. It's like you only read certain parts of my posts. I'm not looking for a way to sheist my way out of a totally vegan diet. In fact, I am looking for solutions to work around my medical condition to enable a vegan diet. But I am not willing to go and change what has worked for me for the past 22 years at the cost of my health which I have fought tooth and nail to keep up. I've been experimenting with various vegan foods for the past few days and combined with the information I already know about my ability to handle certain veggies and fruits I am re-evaluating my diet. Chickpeas in non-hummus cause my guts discomfort, but I seem to handle lentil soups and stews well as well as soft beans like pintos, black beans, and kidney beans very well. I handle berries and low GI tropical fruits very well too. Nuts and seeds are totally out of the question unless they've been reduced to powder or smooth nut/seed butters. I also have to be careful with string veggies like lettuce, spinach, and swiss chard. I've already removed meat totally as well as eggs. I've found a solution to dairy and I am checking with my gastro before I go and shoot myself in the food and end up hospitalized. I'm not willing to be one of those people who ignores one side of the argument and blindly follows a certain set of ideals and beliefs without playing devils advocate and educating myself first.

It's been 38 hours and my french green lentils have yet to sprout...maybe they are overcrowded in the two containers I am using? I might just have to cook em and eat em, I have no food for tonight.

Well, for the record I was drinking raw milk. Drinking milk and eating eggs especially has always freaked me out anyway. But, this isn't a conversation about what's natural because nothing about my plumbing is natural. This is a topic about the concern for my health. Plain and simple, I'm looking out for number one. You don't need to tell me that drinking milk and eating another animals ovarian pootings is unnatural, I dig that. What I am trying to do is come to reasonable outcome that doesn't involve me dying from a B12 deficiency, by doing my own research, taking the advice of a trained medical professional, and coming to my own conclusion. I am fairly certain I will do better with liquid B12 complex as I have always absorbed liquids better when supplementing. I'm going to call my doctor and ask him if we can do this, and come back in 6 months to check my B12 levels. I'm going to use nutritional yeast as well in my recipes, as well as adding spirulina to my post workout feeding.

I don't like packaged/enriched products. I am suspicious of everything that is processed/pre-packaged or modified. I have also tried almond milk and I detest it. I found some liquid b-12 complex and some liquid calcium so I'm going to make my own rice milk. I know it seems odd I'd rather make it myself and enrich it myself. But I don't know the quality of the enrichment some corporation is using. It's cheaper this way, and I can control the quality of the final product. I will be investing in a food processor/blender and a suitable 1 gallon glass jug to contain my milk, I also need some products like some mason jars for sprouting, and a 3 or 5 gallon glass jug for spring water so I'll wait until I have the money for everything. I am trying to supplement as little as possible. My justification is my screwed up guts. I'd eat a lb of spinach for my calcium if my innards could handle it, I just can't though.

He wants to figure out why exactly I have a deficiency instead of just medicating me. I like him for that. He's hoping to find a natural solution. Supplements are not medication. And dairy and eggs are not natural. Humans are the only species to consume milk after infancy, as well as milk of another species. Dairy and Eggs are loaded with cholesterol that has been shown to not be nice to us. I would like to recommend a book called "The China Study". After you read this, you might consider dairy and eggs to be poison for your body. I would prefer to take a supplement myself. I'd like to figure out why I have a B12 deficiency and what the underlying problem is instead of just treating it with a supplement that might or might not work in my particular instance, in which case I won't know until I get screwed ^_^;

He wants to figure out why exactly I have a deficiency instead of just medicating me. I like him for that. He's hoping to find a natural solution.

I got my lab results back from my new gastroenterologist. My B12 levels are down. He suspects when they re-sectioned part of my small intestine back in 2001 at the ileum it compromised my ability to absorb B12 as efficiently. Something about the B12 binding with the R protein and being absorbed into the ileum. I thought it important to tell him about my quest for veganism and he suggested I hold off and still consume at least dairy and/or eggs. Because the drop in B12 levels has taken this long to present itself he thinks I am getting some B12 from eggs, milk, and meat but not the full amount possible and wants to see if supplementing my diet with nutritional yeast will help raise my B12 levels. He wants to see if I digest it more efficiently from yeast. Good news? Apparently, he is a lacto/ovo vegetarian but only drinks goats milk and isn't a complete jerk. He's supportive but cautious. I guess I need to do what I need to do to stay healthy.

Along the same lines as intermittent fasting is the eat stop eat diet, and the warrior diet. I prefer the warrior diet because it seems to work most naturally with most people's biology. I find myself in an entirely more anabolic state. You can lose/maintain body fat on more calories and the way it works to synchronize both the sympathetic and para-sympathetic nervous system functions are well documented. My bench I've added about 50-75 lbs on all my main lifts combined since I have been following it for a month, and my body fat is down 1 or 2%. I am doing this on 1,800-2,000 kcal.

Yes, that's what I order from them. Comes out to about 4.2:1:1. I'm not aware of any others in the US. If you find some please let us know. And so the hunt begins. Thanks.

I've been trying to sprout the lentils I bought yesterday for 14 hours. No sprouts yet...

Hey guys, I know there was a thread concerning Vegan BCAA's and Ajipure turned out to be the only one from True Protein. My question is, the BCAA blend is 2:1:1, so what percentage L-Leucine would I mix with the 2:1:1 BCAA blend in the custom mix maker to make the BCAA's 4:1:1? L-Leucine has been shown to be one of the most important amino acids for skeletal muscle development and it's often recommended to go with 4:1:1 BCAA blends. I'm really bad with math but I figured it out to be 65% Ajipure 2:1:1 BCAA's and 35% Ajipure L-Leucine to make a 4:1:1 BCAA custom blend. Is this right? ^_^; Also, are there any other vegan EAA's besides Purple Wraath, it has all kinds of weird artificial flavors in it... Thanks! P.S. Wraaaaaath >:]

I use baking soda. I mixed a box with lavender. Last box I mixed with organic mint. Works wonders, better than any of that toxic garbage.

Steamed broccoli, 1 can of garbanzo beans (because I decided to sprout the lentils I just bought) and 100g brown rice with olive oil topped off with red pepper hummus. I also had some almond butter but I ate it separate. I need to make sure to steam my veggies/lentils/beans better because it's having a bit of a conflict with my ileostomy. I also think I need to make my night time feeds [On the warrior diet] into stews soups and chili to break down the fibers more and add liquid to help with digestion. Other than that it was great. http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2669/0623102054.th.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Wow, that is pretty wicked. I actually just moved here and I don't really know anyone so it'd be pretty sweet to meet people with similar interests and ideals, make some new friends and experience some new cuisine.

So today is my first day as a vegan. I had 3 days of eggs left and a day of milk left but I gave them to my neighbor. And through my research I've decided I am going to just become vegan straight out of the gate. Gave away/consigned/threw away any leather/wool I had, gave my old weightlifting belt to a friend with some fish oil, and gave my lifting gloves as well as my motorcycle gloves away to some dude at the gym. I just purchased some 70/30 rice/pea protein online as well as some green tea caps and flaxseed oil. I also just did my first vegan shopping trip, spent a few hours at the store crunching numbers. Bought up some emergency rations of canned garbanzo beans, pinto beans, black beans, frozen peas, spinach, and mixed veggies. and a few lbs of lentils, brown rice, broccoli, bananas, and berries. I still have a few things to hammer out but I am confident with my nutritional knowledge and awareness of my own body. I am practicing slight caloric restriction for my health (about 25%), so my kcal have been dropped to 1,800 from 2,300 at 5'6 143lbs. I am expecting some muscle loss but this is a new chapter in my life. My macros are 33/33/33 even. This morning I meditated and tried to come to a peace for the last 22 years of my life. I'm very spiritual and I hope I can garner forgiveness from nature over time, just two weeks ago I didn't even really acknowledge my warpath, 12oz of meat a day, 6 eggs, 1/4 gallon milk. My whole view and perspective has shifted over the past weeks. I justified eating meat for years even through my spirituality by suggesting there was a 50/50 balance, an even trade, but there is no even trade off of me getting animal products from some bastard corporation who make a career torturing and murdering innocent creatures. I never gave these animals anything back. It's an atrocity and I know I am preaching to the choir here but it hurts me so bad looking back at the scar I've left. Anyway, I guess I just move forward. Man, Iced coffee taste so much better with almond milk.

Wow. That is sweet. I read fiber and fats both slow down protein absorption. So I think I am going to add coconut to my post workout shake with a small banana. Thanks.

I'm Kyle from San Diego. I've had the notion of becoming vegetarian/vegan for a couple years now but my gastroenterologist never gave me the ok. I've got Crohn's/Disease Ulcerative Colitis and an ileostomy and my gastro was always concerned with blockages from seeds and nuts and strictures from fiber. My diet has been very good since I started weightlifting 3 years ago. I was doing some research a few weeks ago looking to replace my meat eggs and dairy with cruelty free products and came across a disturbing website on factory farming and slaughter houses. Needless to say it really struck a chord with me and I spent the better part of an hour crying. Now I am a pretty tough guy, I've been through the wringer both physically and emotionally and I consider myself extremely solid but this really brought me to my knees. It was then I made the commitment to remove animal products from my diet even if I had to do it gradually. So yeah, woohoo. See you around.

I use casein during my under eating period. There is so much food in my gut after my 6-8PM feed that by the time I go to bed at 11 or I am still stuffed and my body has plenty of food to play with during the 8-9hr sleep. Breakfast: Tea and fruit Workout: 20g BCAAs PWO: Casein Protein +2hrs Snack: Snack<--- because the casein will last me 8hrs or so so I don't need more until late day. +3hrs Snack: +3hrs Casein, veggies Dinner: Big Feeding +3hrs Bedtime: Small Snack or if there was something I couldn't finish. So you see, I am trying to find something to last me from my post workout until at least my next meal 3hrs later.

When is my main meal? I take in my main feeding at 6-8 pm, then a small snack before bed. The idea is you're in an under eating period for 20 hrs and only consuming 3 or so small meals of fruit and veggies. Casein is used to cut off any potential catabolism and slowly leech aminos throughout the under eating phase.

Hello all. I was wondering if someone could enlighten me as to what the digestion speed of vegan-based protein sources are, namely gemma pea and rice protein blends as the 70/30 mix from True Protein has the highest amino acid score. I am currently following the Warrior Diet and am making a switch to veganism soon but I want to be sure my bases are covered regarding protein availability throughout my under eating period. I was consuming milk protein isolate and the 80% casein in it slowed the protein absorption rate considerably giving me a nice leeching effect of proteins into my body throughout the day, I was making very good gains. I just want to be sure vegan protein powders will have a similar affect. I have read the fiber in the vegan protein blends slows down the absorption rate. If anyone could enlighten me I would appreciate it. Thanks.