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breakfast: banana with 1 tbsp peanut butter-200 lunch: garden vegetable pesto soup with part of a french baguette-310 snack: sour mambas-200 snack: So Delicious Coconut Milk Raspberry yogurt-150 dinner: huge salad with red leaf lettuce, 2 roma tomatoes, kale, capers, vegan parmesan cheese, 1/2 cup garbonzo beans, 2 tbsp sunflower seeds, 3 tbsp Annie's organic red wine and olive oil vinaigrette-493 total: 1353 will edit to add aiming for 1500 today since its a rest day

My body image has been horrible the last few days. I feel so fat and disgusting. I do not want to keep eating. Why should I eat on the days I don't work out? Today's my second rest day and I don't want to eat.

marcina-thank you. I've had an eating disorder for 16 years. I have a lot of damage to my body and I'm tired of waiting around to recover to start my life. At some point you just have to start living your life rather than always trying to make sure you are 100% healthy. I refuse to lose anything more to this horrible disease and I refuse to keep putting my life on hold just because I'm sick. Also I understand why are you saying I should cool it with the exercise but the only way I can allow myself to eat this much is to exercise like this. Its a very slippery slope.

Well, I've been doing some thinking and I think I would be willing to gain 5 pounds of muscle to start. I saw my nutritionist today and we created a sample [vegan obviously] meal plan. When I asked him if it was enough protein, he said it was enough to start with because otherwise it would be too much for my kidneys. It is 1800 calories a day with 75-80 grams of protein. Personally, I don't think this is enough seeing as how I do an hour of cardio a day plus weight lifting and various calithenics 5 days a week. The reason its only 1800 calories right now is because he said I shouldn't suddenly bump up by 500-1000 calories all at once because it would be too much for my body to process. What do you guys think?

Decided to go ahead and take the day off from exercise. I don't want to burn myself out... I also see my nutritionist at noon, which is good because I need some help. Food: breakfast- 2 vegan apple muffins (340) lunch- protein shake made with 2 tbsp cocoa, 1 teaspoon cinnamon, 6 tbsp ground flax seed, 2 cups almond silk milk, 1 scoop spirutein chocolate peanut butter protein powder, ice (500) kale salad with 2 tbsp annie's organic shitake mushroom dressing, vegan parmesan, vegan mozzerella (200) snack- earnest eats almond trail mix granola bar (210) dinner: 2 cups fake tuna salad (400) 1640 calories, 80 grams of protein will edit later if I eat more

Worked out for 2.5 hours today. 35 minutes bike, 30 minutes some other crazy machine that looks kind of like an elliptical but its not, weight lifted legs, 430 crunches, stretching... I'm trying to eat more today. I'm trying to figure out what more can I eat. Will add later if I end up eating more than this: preworkout: 1 cup pinto beans with organic fireroasted tomatoes postworkout: protein shake with the usual lunch: 2 tacos with whole wheat tortillas, fire roasted tomatoes and pinto beans dinner: mini peanut butter and jelly sandwich (seriously, this bread is like the size of french bread when you cut it) with organic strawberry preserves and organic peanut butter snack: green apple snack: sour mambas This is 1500-1600 calories edited to add: 1 peanut butter cookie Lara Bar 2 Earnest Eats Almond Trail mix granola bars 1 taco made with whole wheat tortilla, pinto beans, organic fire roasted tomatoes, vegan mozzerella cheese 2300 calories

Thanks, coldfission and fallen horse. I started working out last Thursday. I've done 5 days in a row of cardio 30-60 minutes and weight lifting on all days but the first day. I've done pretty well with clean eating except I have a real addiction to sugar. Any suggestions on stopping the candy intake? Robert Thank you! That is the kind of info I need! Thank you so much!

yesterday: preworkout protein shake: 1 scoop spiru-tein chocolate peanut butter protein powder, 8 oz 8th Continent Light Vanilla soymilk, 2 tbsp blackstrap molasses, 1 tbsp cocoa, 1 teaspoon cinnamon, ice postworkout: vegan grilled cheese sandwich, 2 spoonfuls peanut butter dinner: huge salad with red leaf lettuce, 1/2 homegrown tomato, 3 tbsp annie's organic roasted red pepper dressing and vegan parmesan cheese

I'm interested in ordering supplements. I have been checking out http://www.trueprotein.com and I'm a little overwhelmed by all the products they have to offer. I am going to order the rice protein supplement, but I also am interested in ordering the best supplements for fat loss and muscle growth. I don't know what to order!! What are the best supplements to order for fat loss and muscle growth?

Thank you for the help. It's just that I've already gained a huge portion of weight recently because I've been trying to recover from an eating disorder and I am tired of gaining weight.

Went to the gym for 2.5 hours today. Did 65 minutes of cardio--elliptical and some other machine that I do not know the name of. Lifted weights, mostly arms but some legs, did 450 crunches of various types and stretching. Didn't eat very much today again. preworkout protein shake made with 8th continent light vanilla soymilk, spiru-tein chocolate pb protein powder, cinnamon, cocoa, blackstrap mollasses and ice postworkout--mini grilled 'cheese' sandwich, 2 spoonfuls organic natural peanut butter dinner-huge salad with red leaf lettuce, homegrown tomato, vegan parmesan 'cheese', and 3 tbsp Annie's organic roasted red pepper vinaigrette Eating has been a real struggle for me lately oh and 2 liters water

strawberry banana smoothie preworkout protein shake made with 8 oz soymilk, 1 scoop spiru-tein chocolate peanut butter protein powder, 2 tbsp blackstrap mollasses, 1 tbsp cocoa, ice postwork out: vegan cheddar, 1/2 homegrown tomato with himalayan pink salt and rainbow pepper, black beans on whole wheat tortilla 3 liters water will edit later with more

My food intake today has sucked. The quality of what I have eaten has been pretty good. I'm sure I'll eat more later tonight. homemade strawberry banana smoothie (200) preworkout protein shake consisting of 8 oz 8th Continent light vanilla soymilk, 2 tbsp blackstrap mollasses, 1 tbsp cocoa, 1 scoop spiru-tein chocolate peanut butter protein powder (300 overestimate) 3 liters water black bean, vegan cheddar, tomato on whole wheat tortilla (270) Did 30 minutes on the bike, level 5 and 30 minutes of weights--focused on my arms. I've been feeling really depressed today so I think that's why I've eaten so little

Well I did 30 minutes on the bike today and I really focused on my arms with weight lifting. My arms are probably the smallest part of my body and I've always had trouble bulking them up so this is going to take some time. I loled when you told me the difference between barbells and dumbbells. Honestly, I know the difference. I just had a slip of the tongue. Thank you for the suggestions on how to increase my calories. I love peanut butter, but I do not eat more than a few times a week. I will try to increase that.

I want to get really ripped without gaining weight basically. Is this even possible? I know I need to eat more but eating right now is a real challenge for me... I've been doing my lunges at home and I don't have any barbells. I will start doing them at the gym where I have access to adding more weight. I just don't know how much weight to use. Should I start out using 10 pound barbells? Thank you so much for responding.

I use Nature's Plus SPIRU-TEIN. It's made out of rice, pea and soy with spirulina. Has tons of amino acids. The protein content isn't as high as I would like. It has 14 gram per serving. They also make tons of flavors. I have the chocolate peanut butter swirl. I wish I could say I love it, but I really don't even like it. Just using it because I bought it.

Hi I'm 27, 5'5" and less than 100 pounds. Obviously, I've vegan. I'm aiming to eat 1200-1500 calories a day. Doing 30 minutes elliptical and aiming to do 30 minutes of weights a day. Also 100-200 walking lunges per day (I never get sore-GREAT ADVANTAGE) and various ab exercises everyday. If I work out 5 days a week doing this, plus taking https://store.nexternal.com/vegane/storefront/vegan-cla-by-deva-p1993.aspx and https://store.nexternal.com/vegane/storefront/ultimate-fat-metabolizer-by-biochem-p1518.aspx and at least 2 protein shakes a day (each one has 14 grams of protein), how fast will I see results?

awesome! Thanks for sharing that!

yesterday I did pretty well with food save for the protein part. organic apple with organic pb vegan apple muffin (homemade) mcdouggell's vegan curry rice sour mambas salad with red leaf lettuce, homegrown tomato, capers, vegan parmesan chz, annie's organic green garlic dressing ...1200 calories Did 30 minutes on the elliptical--the aerobic workout level 6--burned 200 calories wished it could have been more but that's what you get with a low weight Today so far: vegan apple muffin (200) lara peanut butter and jelly bar (200) smoothie with 4 oz odwalla mo'beta, 6 oz 8th continent light vanilla soymilk, canteloupe, cherries, ice (100) spiru-tein chocolate peanut butter swirl soy/rice/pea blend protein shake made with 8oz 8th continent light vanilla soy, ice (20 grams of protein including soymilk) (160) 1 cup pinto beans (200) 2 Annie's organic bunny snacks-wildberry (140) 1 liter water total: 47 grams of protein, 1000 calories, 2 liters water plus water in smoothies/shakes didn't do so great with the food today. I don't know why it has to be so hard for me. going to the gym later to do 30 minutes elliptical, adding in weights today, 100 walking lunges Ordered https://store.nexternal.com/vegane/storefront/ultimate-fat-metabolizer-by-biochem-p1518.aspx and https://store.nexternal.com/vegane/storefront/vegan-cla-by-deva-p1993.aspx Worked this morning. I work in a group home for individuals with developmental disabilities. Only worked 3 hours because the guys were leaving to go to the Special Olympics in Cape Giraurdo. Don't have to work again until Monday. Excited about that because it's been a long week. I worked 16 hours on Tuesday which really wiped me out for the rest of the week. In fact I did not hear my alarm today even though it was set on the loudest setting. Was 25 minutes late to work!!!!!!!!!!! Arg. I hope I don't get written up. It was the first time I've ever been late. And I don't usually work in the morning either. My boyfriend came over today. We were going to go to the gym together. He needs to lose weight very badly. He's 5'9" and weighs 249 pounds. I just want him to get healthy. Luckily, he doesn't have any health problems yet. I guess because he's young. I lost 1.5 pounds since yesterday even though I drank 3 liters yesterday. I know I don't need to lose weight but I can't help but be pleased. Honestly, I would like to lose 7 pounds and get back down to 90. I know--bad. Not exactly conducive to fitness. I've just been relaxing this afternoon. Ate some food, watching tv, playing around on the internet. I'm going to the gym at 5:30 and would like to go see "Salt" with Angelina Jolie. I think she's amazing and the movie is supposed to be great. NCIS is on. Might do another 100 lunges while watching tv. I never get sore no matter how many lunges I do so I take advantage of that. I would like to go to a class at my gym today, but I checked the schedule and I missed all the classes that they had today. Boo. No free classes tomorrow either or sunday so I'll have to wait until next week. I know 1200 calories a day is really low and I don't plan on going any lower with my calories, but if I can lose on 1200 a day and keep losing that would be wonderful. I feel so flabby and gross hence the lunges. I have "Women's Health", which I have a subcription for and "Fitness" which I bought off the newsstand. Going to see if I can find any good weight lifting workouts that I can start on. I would really like to do CrossFit, but it's not offered here. Last night I was watching the history channel. There was stuff about solar flares on and how damaging they can be to the earth. Right now the earth's magnetic field is in the process of reversing. Apparently it does this every so many years. Anyway, when it reverses, there is a period where the earth does not have a magnetic field and this field is what protects the earth from solar flares. If we get struck by a large flare when the earth's magnetic field is down, the entire northern hemisphere could lose everything. The scientists project that if this happens, we will lose 1/3-1/2 of the world's population because we will lose all of our satellites and all the power grids will be down. Nobody will be able to pump gas, have running water, use debit cards---etc. nothing! Billions of people will die and it will take ages to restore everything to normal. I am so scared this is going to happen. I'm really tempted to go and by cases and cases of canned beans so that if it does happen, I will have food and not starve to death. The scientists are trying to find ways to protect the power grids and lines and are trying to find ways to take preventative measures to protect us. I'm sure that will cost billions of dollars and a lot of time. I hope they get the funding and are successful. Anyway, scary stuff. okay, I'm outie.

cross posted, but I thought this would be a nice intro: Hi, I'm new at this message board and I am trying to recover from anorexia. About 2 months ago, I made the switch to veganism. I have gained weight and I am now 98 pounds at 5'5". Now I would like to work at getting in shape. My body fat is very low. I had it tested by a nutritionist and he said it was 5.2% but I think I look 'skinny fat.' I don't know, it could just be my eating disorder talking since I was so underweight before. Anyway, in college I used to run 6 miles a day and I would like to get back into it as well as build some muscle. I was wondering if anyone has experiences of getting in shape while still being pretty underweight and how I should get started? I would like to work with a personal trainer but I can't afford it right now so I've had subscriptions to Women's Health and Oxygen magazine as well. I view these as my training and nutrition tools. Obviously, I modify a lot of food recipes and make them vegan as well as relying on websites like http://www.goveg.com, http://www.fatfreevegan.com and others. I like to do a lot of cooking and I hate relying on the processed vegan foods that are available. Right now I get my bread from whole foods from the bakery. Sprouted grain or something like that is vegan. I just make sure I ask for the vegan bread when I go there. I also eat lots of avocados and cook with olive oil for my healthy fats. My one downfall for processed vegan foods is vegan mac and cheese from veganessentials.com as well as making vegan grilled cheese sandwiches with vegan cheese and vegan butter. I also make lots of smoothies at home. I try to avoid going out to eat because unless you go to a vegan/vegetarian restaurant, there are not a lot of options out to eat... I also try to eat organic as much as possible but I'm on a strict budget so that can be difficult at times. Farmers markets are my friend. As far as training goes, I have had a gym membership for quite some time but for most of the last year I have been too sick to work out. I feel a lot stronger now especially since I have chosen to go vegan as part of my recovery from this horrible disease. I am going to the gym today with a friend and my goal is to do 30 minutes on the elliptical to start. Anyway, I will take any and all advice I can get about nutrition and exercise at this point. I don't really know what or how much to eat. I don't really want to gain anymore weight at this point in time. Basically I just want to get really toned and get my heart and bones in good shape. I have lots of health problems because I have had anorexia for 16 years including having osteopenia. I really need to work on building bone mass because obviously I don't want this to progress into osteoporosis. Unforuntately, I am only 27 and the drugs they offer to reverse bone loss are non-prescribable for people my age because the long term side effects of them are unknown. They are only approved for people over 50 and I have not been able to get a doctor to prescribe any for me. I know weight training and walking/running or weight bearing cardio is good for building bone mass. I would also be interested in knowing what supplements I need to take in to transform my body from being untoned to toned and what will help give me energy besides food for muscle growth and cardiovascular endurance via running. I hope I will be welcome at this board. I already have lurked quite a bit and really like the vibe I get.

velvetvoices Well, I just started yesterday. I did 30 minutes on the elliptical and that really wiped me out. I was ready for bed at 6 pm, but unfortunately I had to work until 9 pm last night so I was dead tired. I'm going to the gym later and I plan on doing another 30 minutes plus weights. I'm trying to take it slow because in the past I work out way too much and then I burn myself out. I want this to be a permanent lifestyle change for me. I'm 27. I need to get in good patterns now. I've had a history of having low b12. I used to take b12 shots from the doctor twice a week. I'm not sure what my levels are like now but that was a couple years ago. I have a real problem intaking enough protein. I know this will be vital for me to not only get healthy but get the body I want. I have soy protein powder and I plan on making at least one shake a day. My daily food log is pretty pathetic right now. I was doing really well with eating. Eating about 1800-2500 calories a day which is what I need to maintain my weight. (I've had my metabolism checked), but the last few weeks its been really difficult for me to eat that much. Yesterday I only ate 1200 calories and I definitely got almost no protein. I don't really have a solid food plan, but I'm seeing my nutritionist next tuesday and I hope to get a better plan then. coldfission Thank you for your input. I don't have a problem eating fats. I love avocados and olive oil but it seems like a lot of people on this site only eat fats very sparingly. I don't think that's good either. Ideally I like to consume one avocado a day and its never done me any harm. I really wish I could invest in a personal trainer right now but I don't have the extra money.

smoothie made with mo' beta superfood odwalla, 8th continent light vanilla soymilk, canteloupe, cherries and ice (100) peanut butter and jelly lara bar (200) 1 liter water homemade vegan apple muffin (200) spiru-tein chocolate peanut butter swirl soy/rice/pea blend protein shake made with 8oz 8th continent light vanilla soy, ice (20 grams of protein including soymilk) (160) 1 cup pinto beans (200) 2 annie's organic bunny snacks wildberry (140) 1 liter water total: 47 grams of protein, 1000 calories, 2 liters water plus water in smoothies/shakes i don't know why this has to be so hard for me. i don't feel like i should eat anymore

That's exactly what I did today. 30 minutes on the elliptical. I am really out of shape though. Were you able to see my pictures?

^^^interesting. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. I've never had daiya but now I think I'll stay away from it.

breakfast: organic apple with 1 tbsp organic Woodstock farms peanut butter 1 liter water postworkout: salad with red leaf lettuce, homegrown tomato, 2 tbsp capers, vegan parmesan cheese, 2 tbsp Annie's organic green garlic dressing dr. mcdouggell's vegan curry rice homemade vegan apple muffin 2 liters of water sour mambas (yes, they are vegan)