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die katholische kirche lehrt, dass man wegen der "unsterblichen seele" nur menschen lieben dürfe (nicht aber tiere). na gut, du bist kein katholik, sondern ein brahmane (oder buddhist?). es ist interessant, was für dinge herauskommen, wenn man religiösen annahmen wie der existenz einer nicht materiell bedingten seele folgt. eine pflanze ist ein lebewesen, aber ihr "achtung" entgegenzubringen ist schon ein ding.
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Hab mich total gefreut, gestern Alex ...
wer zum teufel ist alex?
na ganz gross, kimchen, ich zähle also (im wörtlichen sinne) nicht. dann ist es ja ganz gut, wenn ich nicht teilnehme... (ich mache spaß)
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hätte lust, euch kennenzulernen, problem ist bei mir nur, dass ich alles andere als fit bin. ich habe seit 6 wochen nichts mehr gemacht. grund: habe anfang juli mit ausklingender krankheit trainiert und mir bei einem körperdreher abends promt sehr (!) starke rückenschmerzen (krampf? schuss?) eingeholt, die sich über 3 wochen gehalten haben. ich musste muskelentkrampfende und starke schmerzmittel nehmen und habe jetzt soviel respekt davor, dass ich erst mal ganz vorsichtig wieder anfange: mit leichtem schwimmtraining, ehe ich wieder ausdauerschwimme und dann erst wieder in den fitnessraum gehe. aber bis mitte september sollte da was machbar sein
lelle? in heidelberg gibt es noch die michelle.
in english: i would like to meet the people, but i'm not fit anymore / yet. i paused for over 6 weeks with the training because i had strong pain in the upper back.
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hey I'm ill again since thursday or friday. I also didn't eat enough the last days... anyway... I'm weighting around 76kg - that was one of my aims!
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hey organizer, how does the contest end? till when do you want the afterphotos?
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3 plates of pasta and you didn't puke?
u don't read my logs... normally I eat 3 OR 4 plates...
by the way, I didn't puke since I was 4 or 5 years old. I didn't like it so I decided not to puke anymore (rather to die on alcoholic intoxication).
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my eleventh week:
("PP+SM" means "Protein Powder and Soymilk")
monday 25.06.2007
training:
20:10-21:20: gym (no notices)
eating: no notices...
tuesday 26.06.2007
training:
23.00-00.30: table tennis
eating:
11.30: 2 bananas
13.30: 1 "Mr. Tom" (= 40 gr. peanuts and sugar)
14.00: 1 plate pommes, 1 plate salad
20.00: 50gr. chocolate
22.00: 3 plates pasta with sauce (pureed tomatoes, onions, olive oil, garlic)
01.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
wednesday 27.06.2007
training:
eating:
my dates:
thursday 28.06.2007
training:
eating:
friday 29.06.2007
training:
eating:
my dates:
saturday 30.06.2007
training:
eating:
my dates:
sunday 01.07..2007
training:
eating:
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my tenth week:
("PP+SM" means "Protein Powder and Soymilk")
monday 18.06.2007
training:
19:10-20:10: gym (no notices, nearly without machines)
20.15-21.45: endurance swimming (with trainer)
eating: no notices...
tuesday 19.06.2007
training:
20.10-20.55: endurance swimming (without trainer):
30x 50m (1,5km) on a rotating basis: one lane swimming freestyle, back breaststroke (by turns)
8x 50m (0,4km) freestyle
eating:
11.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
12.00: 3 tablespoonful of linseeds
14.00: 1 plate salad
16.00: 1 banana
19.20: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
23.30: 3 plates pasta with sauce (pureed tomatoes, champignons, garlic)
01.00: 300gr. sweet corn
02.00: 250gr. pistachios
wednesday 20.06.2007
training:
18.10-19.10: gym (no notices)
eating:
11.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
15.00: 500ml grape juice
15.30: 2 "Mr. Tom" (= 80 gr. peanuts and sugar)
17.00: 2 bananas
19.30: 150gr. walnuts
20.00: 2 plates potatoes with legumes
01.00: 2 bananas
01.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
my dates:
11.00: weight: 75,4 kg
01.45: weight: 77,1 kg
thursday 21.06.2007
training:
18.30-19.30: fitness for the back
eating:
09.30: 1 banana
12.00: 50gr. walnuts
14.00: 1 plate salad, 2 slices bread
18.00: 1 avocado
20.00: 500ml grape juice
20.10: 250gr. chips
20.50: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
23.00: 2 nectarines
23.20: 0,5l malt beer
friday 22.06.2007
training: none
eating:
12.30: 2 plates backen potatoes, 2 plates salad
20.00: 200gr. baguette with mustard (non-vegan party...)
23.30: 4 plates fried tofu, champignons, onions, bean sprouts, garlic)
02.00: 0,5l beer
my dates:
10.00: weight: 77,1 kg
saturday 23.06.2007
training:
12.25-13.05: gym (no notices)
eating:
11.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
15.00: 50gr. walnuts
16.00: 2 bananas
17.00: 100gr. peanuts
my dates:
18.30: weight: 76,2 kg
sunday 24.06..2007
training: none
eating: enough
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my ninth week:
("PP+SM" means "Protein Powder and Soymilk")
monday 11.06.2007
training: none
eating:
10.45: 1 plate muesli
11.00: 50gr. walnuts
12.00: 2 bananas
14.30: 1 plate potatoes and rice, 1 plate salad
19.00: 200ml grape juice
23.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
01.00: 50gr. dried fruits
my dates:
10.30: weight: 75,4 kg
tuesday 12.06.2007
training:
19.55-20.55: endurance swimming (without trainer):
50x 50m (2,5km) on a rotating basis: one lane swimming freestyle, back breaststroke (by turns)
eating:
11.00: 2 bananas
11.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
15.00: 75gr. chocolate
19.00: 2 bananas
23.30: 3 plates pasta with sauce (pureed tomatoes, tofu, baked beans, peanuts, chinese cabbage)
wednesday 13.06.2007
training:
17:50-18:50: gym (no notices, nearly without machines)
eating:
12.00: 2 bananas
14.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
15.30: 2 teaspoon soylecitin
21.00: 2 "Mr. Tom" (= 80 gr. peanuts and sugar)
23.00: 50gr peanuts
23.30: 3 plates pasta with sauce (pureed tomatoes, tofu, baked beans, peanuts, chinese cabbage)
thursday 14.06.2007
training:
12.00: 25 push-ups
20.00: 25 push-ups
eating:
11.00: 2 bananas
11.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
13.30: 1 plate with legumes and rice
19.00: 75gr. peanuts
23.00: 400ml grape juice
00.30: 2 "Mr. Tom" (= 80 gr. peanuts and sugar)
my dates:
10.50: weight: 74,9 kg
friday 15.06.2007
training: none
eating:
08.30: 2 teaspoon soylecitin
09.00: 300ml grape juice
11.00: 50gr. chocolate
13.00: 75gr. dried fruits
15.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
19.30: 3 plates lasagne (mjam!)
23.40: 30 gr. pumpkin seeds
my dates:
10.00: weight: 75,2 kg
saturday 16.06.2007
training:
12.45-13.10: gym (no notices)
eating: no notices (not enough)
sunday 17.06..2007
training: none
eating: no notices
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saturday 09.06.2007
today I was with a friend in the gym, he teached me how to practice the exercises correct.
training:
11.30-13.00: gym
- 6 min biking (2,2km)
- Dumbbell Bench Press: 10kg - 10, 12kg - 10, 16kg - 3x10
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSt ... Press.html
- Dumbbell Fly: 9kg - 10, 13, 11kg - 10, 10
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSternal/DBFly.html
- Cable Standing Fly: 3x10
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSt ... ngFly.html
- Dumbbell Pullover (Überzug): 14kg - 10, 12kg - 4, 10kg - 12
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSt ... lover.html
- Barbell Bench Press: 20kg (+ BB with 20kg) - 9, 6
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSt ... Press.html
- Dumbbell Curl, left/right by turns): 12kg - 9x (r, l), 9x
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/DBCurl.html
- Dumbbell Incline Curl, left/right by turns): 12kg - 5x (r, l), 6x
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/DBInclineCurl.html
- Barbell Deadlift: BB without additional weight, just for lerning: a few
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in the avatar it is me, after 2 weeks of training, third of mai. my height is 1,82m. at that day my weight was about 73kg... now I have about 75kg. when I made the first pictures on first january I had 70kg and didn't feel good. first I started to eat more, than I started with the training.
my targets till 01.07. were:
- gaining weight to 76 - 80kg
- getting trained and enduranced
- getting more muscles
I wouldn't like to weigh more than 90kg or even 85kg... you are talking about 30kg
"squats, deadlifts, bench, overhead press, powercleans, chins, dips and rows", "lat pulldown (if you cannot do chins/pullups) and calf machines" - thanks for listing the exercises. I will try to "learn" them and get routined. a friend will help me with that. on the other hand don't you think that the machines are quite well for relative thin beginners to build a basis?
the proteinpowder is helpful for me, because I can make and drink it quickly. it doesn't make me full so it is not the reason that I don't eat other things.. my problem is that I generally don't eat regularly. I'm not proud of it... I write my meals down to controll myself and to feel uncomfortable when others see that I disregard eating.
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hi flare, thanks for your advice... you're right, I should cook more with legumes. didn't cook pasta yet... or did I? it's to warm here...
over the way there is an open air bath, I see a lot of people going in... while I'm reading a text for tomorrow ;-(
wish you a great time for the next two weeks at holidays!
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wednesday 06.06.2007
training:
18.00-19.30: gym
- Biking, level 8 and 12: 5 min (2km)
- Chest Press: 40kg - 15, 15, 8
- Back Chin Lifts with additional 10kg: 3x 20
- Hip Adduction (with 71kg: 10, 10, 9) and Hip Abduction (with 84kg: 14, 12, 11) in turn
- Crunches: 10x, 5 right, 5 left (= 20), 20x (1right, 1 left) (= 40)
- Stretching: 5 min
- Lat Machine (Chest): 50kg - 18, 14, 14, 11
- Leg Extension: 30kg - 3x 12
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps ... nsion.html
- Glute / Standing Hip Extension: 30kg - 2x (15 left, 15 right)
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/GluteusMax ... nsion.html
- Seated Calf Press: 100kg - 2x 20
- Leg Press: 80kg - 3x 20
- Cable Pushdown: 3x 20
www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/CBPushdown.html
- Pull-ups: 4
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Your eating sounds less this day! ... Would you delete the Mr. Tom, it sounds more like cutting, not bulking.
hi kim! yes, you're right. the last days I didn't eat enough... wasn't much at home - studying, working, at sports and a lot of animal rights activism. I really should drop the AR-activism considering my health
next time I'm cooking noodles with sauce I'll make pictures and send them to you
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monday 04.06.2007
training:
18.30-20.00: gym
- 7 min biking
- Pull-ups: 9, 5
- Shoulder Pushing, sitting: 5 sets with 2 dumbbells 12kg: 16, 12, 9, 9, 7
- Bizepscurls with a long barbell (the lenght is 1,8 or 2,2 meters, Ø: 50mm = 18 or 20kg) without additional wheights: 15, 9, 8, 9, 6
- Bench Press with a long barbell (= 20kg?) and additional 10kg: 12, 10, 7
- Abdonitional Crunchs: 50kg: 15, 10, 4, 45kg: 7
- Lat Machine (Chest): 55kg - 12, 7, 7
- Shrugs with 2 dumbbells 24kg: 10, 20kg: 12, 10
- Back Chin Lifts with additional 10kg: 20, 15
- Upper Back / Butterfly: 40kg - 10, 7
20.15-21.45: endurance swimming (with trainer, usual program)
(NOTICE: the swimlane is only 16,6 meters long. "SL" means swimlane)
*** 15 min warming-up
*** with fins (zoomers):
- 4x (1SL diving with freestyle legs, 1SL backstroking with freestyle legs)
- 4x (1SL diving with butterfly legs, 1SL backstroking with butterfly legs)
- 2x (2SL on one side without hands with freestyle legs, 2SL on one side without hands with butterfly legs, 2SL freestyle)
- 2x the same 6SL on the other side
- 4x (1SL butterfly, 1SL freestyle)
*** with poolboy:
- 8x (1SL freestyle arms, 1SL breaststroke arms)
- 2x (2SL freestyle right arm, 2SL freestyle left arm, 2SL breaststroke)
- 2SL breathing after 3 strokes, 2SL breathing after 4 strokes,
2SL breathing after 5 strokes, 2SL breathing after 4 strokes, 2SL breathing after 3 strokes
*** with aqua board:
- 8x (1SL freestyle legs, 1SL breaststroke legs)
*** endurance workout:
- 8SL freestyle, 8 SL breaststroke
- 7SL freestyle, 7 SL breaststroke
... = 1.200 m
*** 5 min swimming down
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my eighth week:
("PP+SM" means "Protein Powder and Soymilk")
monday 04.06.2007
training:
18.30-20.00: gym (for details see below)
20.15-21.45: endurance swimming (with trainer - for details see below)
eating:
10.30: 1 orange
11.30: 1 "Mr. Tom" (= 40 gr. corn and sugar)
13.30: 2 slices bread, 1 plate salad
17.45: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
18.00: 1 banana
22.30: 1 banana
23.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
00.00: 500ml grape juice
my dates:
00.15: weight: 75,9 kg
tuesday 05.06.2007
training:
22.00: 40 crunches
eating:
11.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
16.00: 200gr. different nuts and raisins
19.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
21:30: 1.000 ml tomato juice
wednesday 06.06.2007
training:
18.00-19.30: gym (for details see below)
eating:
11.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
14.15: 1 roll (= 6 pieces) avocado-maki, 1 teaspoon pickled ginger
15.00: 75gr. dried fruits
15.30: 500ml grape juice
17.30: 2 bananas
20.15: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
23.00: 500gr. cooked potatoes and 125gr. mayonnaise (ALNATURA)
02.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
thursday 07.06.2007
training: none
eating:
12.00: 50gr. dried fruits
13:30: 500gr. cooked potatoes and 125gr. mayonnaise (ALNATURA)
16.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
19.00: a bowl salad and 200gr. peanuts
22.30: 1 banana
00.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
my dates:
12.00: weight: 74,7 kg
00.30: weight: 77,0 kg
friday 08.06.2007
training: none
eating:
10.00: 2 teaspoon soylecitin
10:30: 1 banana
12.00: 1 plate muesli
12.30: 1 banana
15.00: 1/2 avocado
15.15: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
15.45: 1 banana
20.00: 3 plates rice and tofu, goya cucumber, chinese cabbage, onion, bean sprouts
23.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
01.00: 50gr. dried fruits
my dates:
10.30: weight: 75,2 kg
saturday 09.06.2007
training:
11.30-13.00: gym (for details see below)
16.30-19.00: sauna
01.00-02.00: dancing
eating:
10.00: 1 banana
11.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
11.15: 1 banana
14.00: 4 plates rice and tofu, goya cucumber, chinese cabbage, onion, bean sprouts
19.30: 1 pizza (with onions, paprika, peperoni)
22.00: 400ml grape juice
00.00: 50gr. walnuts
01.00: 2 beer
03.00: 1/2 plate carrot sticks and maize kernels
my dates:
09.30: weight: 75,4 kg
sunday 10.06..2007
training:
eating:
13.00-17.00: Brunch! (pancakes, tiramisu, avocado, grape juice)
21.00: 50gr. walnuts
21.30: 1/2 plate carrot sticks and maize kernels
22.00: 100gr. walnuts
00.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
my dates:
12.00: weight: 75,5 kg
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Drop the isolation exercises, like the side raises. For your shoulders for example for these lifts:
Push press with barbell
Seated dumbell shoulder press
Shrugs
Powercleans
Best exercises you can do - builds strength and mass.
thanks a lot for your feedback and advice!
I'll work more with barbells. but why dropping the isolated exercises? and should I also drop all machines, also the lat machine?
I have a friend who helps me with the exercises, but as I am still a beginner and we couldn't come together yet, I'm a little bit afraid starting powerlifting on my own. next saturday we'll go together to the gym.
don't you think I'm still far away from powercleans...?
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wednesday 30.05.2007
training:
17.45-19.15: gym
for shoulders these exercises:
1) sidewards lifting:
5 sets with 2 dumbbells 6kg: 10, 10, 10, 9, 7
2) sidewards lifting, sitting, bended forward:
5 sets with 2 dumbbells 4kg: 10, 10, 9, 10, 9
http://www.sebulba.de/training/uebungslehre/00000094b10d1df19.html
3) shoulder pushing, sitting:
5 sets with 2 dumbbells 14kg: 8, 6, 8, 7, 7
http://www.sebulba.de/training/uebungslehre/00000094b10d25924.html
4) shrungs, standing:
5 x 15 with 2 dumbbells 18kg
http://www.sebulba.de/training/uebungslehre/00000094b10d26426.html
for biceps these exercises:
1) biceps curls, standing:
5 sets with a barbell, 20kg (+scurlbell): 8, 6, 5, 4, 3
http://www.sebulba.de/training/uebungslehre/00000094b10d1d115.html
2) biceps curls, sitting on a sloped bench / bench-press:
with a barbell, 15kg (+scurlbell): 6
5 sets with a barbell, 10kg (+scurlbell): 11, 12, 12, 9, 9
other stuff:
abdonitional crunchs: 40kg: 15, 50kg: 15, 55kg: 9
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Amil. You state in your opening post in your journal you want to gain weight and muscles. You need to start lifting mate, not just playing around with little dumbells and machines. Deadlifts, squats, bench, rows, overhead pressing and variations of those. Eat like you mean it, and reduce cardio. You can still gain a significant amount of muscle whilst doing cardio, but you have to up your calories, and lift hard.
hi jonathan, thanks for your clear words. it's the same, my bodybuilding friend is telling me. he made a working plan for shoulders and bizeps for me for training separate parts... so yesterday I worked for the first time with a barbell. with horrific light weight... see below for details.
gaining muscels and weight are not my ony aims, I also want to train holistic. I try to eat more to have more calories than I need.
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my seventh week:
("PP+SM" means "Protein Powder and Soymilk")
monday 28.05.2007
training: none
eating: enough...
tuesday 29.05.2007
training: none
eating:
11.00: 1 banana
11.30: 75gr. PP + 500ml SM
20.00: 1 orange
21.30: 300gr. pasta with 300gr. tomato sauce (onion, olive oil)
my dates:
20.00: weight: 74,0 kg
wednesday 30.05.2007
training:
17.45-19.15: gym (for details see below)
eating:
11.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
12.00: 2 bananas
16.00: 200gr. pasta with 200gr. tomato sauce (broccoli, onion, olive oil, garlic)
20.00: 2 plates noodles with tomato sauce and soy granulate
00.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
my dates:
11.00: weight: 73,5 kg
thursday 31.05.2007
training: none
eating:
09.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
10.00: 1 banana
12.00: 1 banana
13.30: 2 slices bread, 1 plate salad
19.30: 100gr. peanuts
20.00: 1 banana
23.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
friday 01.06.2007
training: none
eating:
10.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
12.00: 2 pretzels
15.00: 1 pretzel
17.45: 1 banana
19.00: 2 slices bread with spread
22.30: 50gr. PP + 500ml rice milk
23.00: 100gr. peanuts
my dates:
09.30: weight: 73,8 kg
saturday 02.06.2007
training: none
eating:
11.00: 50gr. PP + 500ml SM
13.00: 1 banana
14.00: 1 banana
22.00: 4 plates noodles with sauce of vegetables (tomatoes, broccoli, onions, garlic)
23.30: 1 beer
my dates:
10.30: weight: 74,3 kg
sunday 03.06..2007
training:
eating:
11.30: 1 orange
12:30: 1 apple
15.30: 4 plates noodles with sauce of vegetables (tomatoes, broccoli, onions, garlic)
23.30: 50gr. chocolate
01.30: 150gr. cashews
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my protein powders...
I had this protein before:
http://www.pro-sana-shop.de/?modus=ShowContent&dropId=3691
now I use this one:
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oh, thanks for your welcomes
are you still training, flare?
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hi, I didn't introduce myself on the official place yet, so I make up for my lapse...
since 16th April I have an training log, you find it here:
I'm vegan since 6 years, before that I was 3 years vegetarian. now I'm 31 years old. I take part at lelle's contest. my aims are gaining weight, building muscels but also gaining endurance (I'm training at the gym but also have swimming training). so I have a functional conflict. eating regulary had no preference in my life - I'm changing it right now.
I'm logging my details to motivate myself. I don't know how far I will come building muscels (a friend is angry about that, but I won't stop swimming). we'll see in 5 weeks when the contest ends.
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hey michelle, I think you should write "fake tofu chicken" instead of "chicken". it irritated me
you make 190 crunches?
what are crunches for you? can't believe that...
Germany?
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wofür sollte ich sie achten? "achtung" ist ein begriff, der etwas zu achtendes unterstellt. bei kant ist es die autonomie eines wesens. die haben nur menschen. bei tieren könnte man sagen, sie seien subjekte ihres lebens, sie haben geist, interessen, leidensfähigkeit. was haben pflanzen? die eigenschaften von leben. leben an sich ist moralisch nicht relevant. "achtung" ist ein moralischer begriff. also: ich achte pflanzen nicht. "seele" ist ein aufgeladener begriff, der alles und nichts aussagt. pflanzen haben kein bewusstes selbst, sie haben überhaupt kein selbst. ich zertrample pflanzen nicht, wegen der potentiellen verrohung und aus rücksicht auf die ästhetik und andere menschen oder lebewesen, die nutzen von pflanzen haben.
schweitzers lebensachtungsideologie ist maßlos überbewertet und nicht sonderlich philosophisch bzw. argumentativ stark.
stehe ich in deinen augen jetzt "unmoralisch" da? dann musst du erklären, wofür du pflanzen achtest, und warum es moralisch geboten ist. möglichst ohne religiöse oder esoterische grundannahmen