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  1. That's exactly the shit that's getting annoying! It's alot like saying people have sex all the time, so what is so bad about rape? All this shit about him deserving a second chance is getting old...the guy has had all the chances in the world!!! And some how it came up on a sports show that he's a decent guy cause he refused to rat out any other NFL players that were involved...jesus christ, soon he'll be up for the Nobel prize- what a sweet heart!While we're at it, doesn't OJ deserve a second chance, too? Afterall, he could run really fast...
  2. This is getting annoying...before I start my rant, let me emphasize that I stick by my claim that race plays a major part in who gets charged with animal abuse...HOWEVER...just because race plays a role in who gets prosecuted doesn't mean those who are prosecuted should play the race card! The problem is, by selectively prosecuting these cases, it allows some to scream "Foul!" The NAACP, who I usually support, is claiming Vick is the victim of a conspiracy due to his off the field behaviour...wtf!!?? Everybody is whining that he deserves a second chance...first of all, he never gave his dogs a second chance...he killed them, himself, for "performing" badly. Second of all...he has already gotten at least a second chance...remember the incident with the pot at the airport?! He got away with that...how many chances does he get?! If these cases were prosecuted equally across racial and class lines we wouldn't have to deal with alot of this shit! What's sad is that just because he can throw a fucking ball, he will get a lighter sentence. And because of past abuses of the legal system, many in the black community will think he's being treated unfairly! And then there are those that bring up the fact that people shoot deer and other animals all the time and there are no consequences, yet because he killed dogs, everyone is upset...good point, but maybe they should consider that killing deer and other animals is also wrong! I hope Vick gets mauled by Ving Rhames' mastiffs... -rant over
  3. Oh snap! Nicely written and very informative! Thanks for the knowledge!
  4. Here is a link to the newspaper story... http://www.amarillo.com/stories/032099/new_billboarddown.shtml I must make a retraction...in this article an officer contacted says there is little they can do, not that it isn't legal...but, I believe the comment that no law was broken was made on the news, and it may have been from the DA Ferrin...he was a total good ol' boy...although I seem to remember the ASPCA having caller ID... Dorothy LaBorde was quite a character...she was in her seventies and had only been vegetarian for a few years, she converted in her sixties...she was an awesome lady...and fiery as all hell! She was a stereo typical Texas grandma...except she was vegetarian...(picture a cross between Peggy Hill and Ann Richards...hahaha)
  5. I was searching for the newspaper article in the AMarillo Globe News about the PeTA billboard... I found this...what is amusing about this is that PeTA DID NOT ask to have it taken down...the advertising agency took it down, in breach of contract I suspect...I know this because I am the one who called PeTA to tell them the billboard had been removed...they were shocked and were looking into the matter... Dateline: Texas--People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has asked an Amarillo advertising agency to remove their controversial billboard claiming "Jesus was a vegetarian" from a major Texas highway. It seems that Texans, who take both Jesus and a T-bone quite seriously, were not amused by the anti-meat campaign. The Amarillo Globe-News reported that it has been deluged by angry calls and letters about what one of the newspaper's columnists called "PETA's efforts to convert all us West Texas chicken fried steak-lovin' carnivores into carrot-crunchin' melon thumpers." Anyways...thats Amarillo for you...and why I'm glad as hell to be away from that shit hole...By the way, did you know it was Amarillo cattlemen who sued Oprah?
  6. Incidently...this year is the 10th anniversary of Brian's murder and there are dozens of benefit concerts scheduled around the world...if you can, and your into punk rock, I would suggest going...Brian was an awesome guy...and besides, I'm sure you could set up booths and distribute "Why Vegan" pamphlets...We did that in Amarillo at the first big "Unity through Diversity Fest" that was held in his name...we got alot of good food out to people and tons of "Why Vegan" pamphlets were distributed... Just a thought...
  7. I never heard any mention of race...I suspect you are right though...was there any mention of their mental state? They sound like they may have been "a bit slow." I suspect it was unintentional, and in that case they will serve hard time even if they were cleared of all charges...losing a child is hard, but losing it due to your own negligence must be devastating...
  8. I believe it was Officer Newfeld...he was the PR guy for the Amarillo P.D. The APD was/is extremely corrupt and/or incompetent. A few incidences... Our house was broken into, my room mate had $600 stolen (he was a tattoo artist and always had lots of cash)...finger prints were found and it turned out to be a guy who was once our friend...he snuck in through a window...the investigating officer told us charges couldn't be filed because we had previously given the guy permission to enter the house when he watched our dogs...that was years previously!!! WHAT THE HOLY FUCK??! I still can't figure that one out...I thought that only applied to vampires! When my friend Brian was murdered the cops who arrived on the scene essentially escorted dozens of teenagers away from the scene of his murder-told them to go home without taking names or anything!!!! One of my friends actually knew the first cop who showed up, he was actually a decent guy and quit the force in large part due to how they handled the case. At least one cop testified on behalf of the murderer essentially saying that Brian had it coming...(he was run over from behind fleeing after escaping from 6 or so guys beating him on the ground with pool sticks and bats... There were a few decent cops...but as a whole the department was filled with the quintessential PIGS! (No offense to four legged swine)... Brian's case got alot of publicity world wide...especially since his murderer only got 10 years probation, but what's not known is shortly afterwards there was another hit and run of a jogger and the accused also got only 10 years probabtion..I believe he was some businessman in town, the victim was a visitor who was staying at a hotel near the airport. Their family issued a scathing statement about how corrupt and incompetent the Amarillo law enforcement and legal system was after the verdict... And oh yeah, concerning Brian's case...one of Dustin Camp's defenses (he was the murderer) was that he was a football player and therefore inherently good...Brian had a mohawk and therefore inherently bad...) Another thing...one year we had 7 police related killings...2 in one week by different cops...this is a town of 200,000...I hear one year Cinncinatti had 2 police shootings and the city went apeshit...and they have 750,000! There is/was a real John Wayne mentality among those cops...might I add that my father is in law enforcement, he's a bit of a biggot and even he was ed by some of the things I've told him about that town's cops... sorry about the rant...
  9. I've heard a bit about this case...my parents live near Atlanta...we just had a baby boy in November and my mom was real concerned about us raising our children vegan...when she explained the case my initial reaction was "what the hell does this have to do with being vegan?!" Babies need breast milk...wtf?! I've also heard that they did a home delivery and the first time the child saw a doctor was right before it died! I can't believe it's even tied to veganism...it has more to do with incompetent parenting...I believe they were feeding the baby soy milk, like Silk or something, not even soy formula...that's the impression I got..and it says pretty clearly that its not meant for babies! A few other people have brought up the case, mostly family members, but once you explain the real issues, I think most people get it...I guess "Vegan diet kills Baby" makes for a better story than "Incompetent Parents Kill Baby"... I do however feel sorry for the parents...not too bright...but damn, losing a kid is terrible...really, really horrible...I wonder if they were all there mentally...there could be ALOT more to this story...
  10. If I can give one more example of selective enforcement...while I was Texas, PeTA erected a billboard that read "Jesus was a Vegetarian"...I'm sure your all familiar with it...well in the Texas panhandle beef is second only to Jesus...you can imagine the reaction. Someone called the ASPCA and threatened to burn a cat for every day that sign was up...the police were notified and their reaction was..."So, what...it's not against the law." Now I'm no lawyer, but I believe it IS against the law...and even the act of threatening to do so is against the law, especially under those circumstances! They even went so far as to tell the paper that no law was being broken, but the PeTA billboard might be against the law as a traffic hazard!!!!!!!! (Because of the "distraction") But then, about a year later, that young black man stabbed the dog and the same cops were acting horrified at the brutality of the crime!! (It was terrible, but they were hippocrits!)...incidently, the dog lived... Maybe my experience in the South has made me extremely cynical when it comes to law enforcement...I hope I'm wrong about VIck and he gets prison time, but I just don't want the let down...
  11. Yea, it was a bit personal, I should offer a truce...afterall, after all that bickering potter actually finally agreed to my point. That point being that the law should be prosecuted equally across racial and class lines...really that is all I was saying...why was that so hard to agree with?
  12. Did anybody here ever listen to Consolidated in the early 90s? They were fucking awesome and a true inspiration. If you don't know about them...they were a hip-hop/techno group that were pro-choice, vegetarian, pro-gay and lesbian rights and anti-war/Bush I. (This was during the first Gulf War)If you can, get their cd "Friendly Fa$cism"..it is AWESOME!!! In many of their songs they would lay down beats and play samples of people speaking at their shows...the best is some dumb woman yelling at them and saying "meat is good and if you don't like America, go live in Russia"...she also says "god said man shall have dominion over the animals, not a big wad of tofu"..to which one of the guys replied"he also says man shall have dominion over women, so do you buy that shit too?"...Brilliant! I've actually had people say those same things to me...once a woman said that same BS to me about dominion and I wanted to reply similarly saying "It also says men have dominion over women, so shut the fuck up!"..but I didn't...but I sure thought it... In their song "Sexual POlitics of Meat" they have Carol Adams read from her book of the same title...really good stuff...meat consumption through a feminist lense...heavy duty! And the beats are FUNKY AS HELL!!!! Anyways, we listened to that cd last night on a car trip and it brought back fond memories...anybody know what they are up to these days?
  13. Actually...I was trying to clarify on your behalf...you didn't say wool socks...you said socks that were course like wool...but regardless, its ridiculous to endanger human and animal life by allowing a parasitic infestation...I hate killing, but I hate dying even more... I guess we'll wait and see on Vick...the outcry is pretty loud, and he's been asked not to show up at training... I think he won't get prison time though...hell, NFL players have been involved in murder and did zero time..(what's his face from the Ravens)...he may get community service, and for a while the NFL may try to distance themselves...but the public is fickle and it will all be forgotten when Lindsey Lohan or some other celebrity kills someone ina DWI or has a bad hair day...
  14. Actually you told me "wool like" socks...wool wouldn't be vegan...you don't remember? Funny, cause thats one of the reasons I quit coming to this site...seemed some people were in some kind of contest to be more vegan than the others...that's fucking ridiculous! Even though I very rarely will kill even an insect, parasitic bugs are seldom spared in our household, especially since one of our dogs is deathly allergic to them...the fact that you don't recall that makes me think you were just talking to hear yourself talk or be "veganer than thou"...much like on this thread, which I began because I thought it was unfortunate that the law wasn't enforced equally...if what you say is true about native Hawaiians getting away with the crime by playing the race card it still proves my point. Though I am skeptical...youi've already expressed your dislike for that ethnic group (filthy & lazy) and your explanations are EXACTLY the samer as the one racists use against Mexicans in Texas (they're filthy , lazy and get away with certin crimes) and also the same arguement racists use against blacks in Atlanta- (where much of my family currently lives). And as I also said, many whites get away with it too because law enforcement just doesn't care...BUT...if they really want to stick it to someone, they will pile on as many charges as possible, especially in narcotics investigations. And once again, that is how Vick got busted...his cousin was being investigated on drug charges and during the investigation they discovered the dog fighting...and wow, it waqs linked to a high profile figure ( a rich, black man with previous encounters with law enforcement...BINGO! this will look good AND they can get rid of an "uppity colored"... I hope Vick does get nailed, but I doubt he will...as stated before race will be an underlying motive in pursuing the case, but wealth will help get him off...he'll probably get community service....his cousin will probably be less fortunate...unless he turns state evidence... Incidently...look at the cities that have animal cruelty law enforcement...Houston, Philly...are there others...I'm sure there are...hmmm what do those cities have in common? I wonder...
  15. Like I said...or actually, like the PSPCA explained to me...they do not use non-law enforcement people in their investigations...due to their inexperience in identifying suspects and following proper procedure...your story just seems suspect...it would be like me offering my services to go into a crack house and identify buyers...again, this is what the PSPCA told me...I didn't make this shit up..like I suspect you have a habit of doing... Incidently, my favorite thing you've obviously made up was something you said to me ages ago when I first came on this site under a different name...you told me that instead of spraying my yard for fleas and ticks ...its not very vegan... I should instead wear high wool socks to prevent the parasites from getting on me...classic...apparently you sleep standing up...I still chuckle at that advice!!!hahahaha! But to get back to my point...RACE matters in who gets prosecuted in these kinds of crimes...even if you are right when you say in Hawaii native Hawaiians aren't prosecuted...that proves my point...RACE MATTERS...everyone should be pursued equally...period...But in the South blacks are more likely to be prosecuted...and specifically in Texas...blacks and Mexicans are more likely to be prosecuted in these kinds of cases...and its usually tied to narcotics investigations...(another reason I have doubts about your story)...If you think that race doesn't matter in Southern law enforcement I ask you to please come back to this universe!
  16. I should clarify... I don't think potter is an agent provocateur...I only brought up that subject in reference to the "activist" who approached me after dealing with her for only a few short months...so...potter's not a cop out to link animal activists to terrorism...but that still leaves options 1 & 2...
  17. I too worked for SPCA...I find it VERY hard to believe they would risk your life for undercover operations...especially in Philly... a friend of mine's house was burned down because his dad had took 2 pitbulls from some guys (who no doubt were fighting them) they saw it as a stolen investment...THose kind of people don't take kindly to narcs either... Also the SPCA lack the jurisdiction...ESPECIALLY if they lacked a law enforcement division...I also find it hard to believe that you wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb...I would find it very hard to remain calm and not express my utter for the situation...law enforcement agents can pull it off, the have the training...but your story sounds very suspect...sorry...I would almost believe it if soo much didn't make sense...
  18. I met a woman in Texas who was involved with PeTA activity...I saw her in a pizza place (I suspect eating a meat topped pizza-from what I saw, but never was quite sure)...anyway...she approached me and told me...in that crowded restaraunt, with people all around us...that Ingrid Newkirk had called her personally and asked if she would do some ALF activity and then asked if I would be interested...I immediately ceased contact with her...she was one of 3 things...an idiot, a liar, or undercover agent...she did not look like the typical activist I was accustomed to dealing with...I suspect she was lying to boost her "street cred" in the movement...I sincerely doubt Ms. Newkirk would have called her on public phone lines to ask her to do to do illegal ALF activity...thats not the way it works...I hear...and I suspect the president of PeTA would be wiser...anyways...I suspect potter is one of those 3, if not all... Concerning infiltrators...my father is in law enforcement, he told me about his experience several years ago at the Savannah, GA G-8 meeting in 2004...he worked in riot control...they expected a protestor situation like that which happened in Seattle previously...but due to the war far fewer protestors turned up...he only recalled a few dozen arrests...HERES THE BEST PART...of those several dozen, nearly half were undercover agents...either they were arresting innocent people OR the undercover agents were creating disturbances to give the movement a bad rep...my dad thought this was hilarious...I find it deeply disturbing... I'm not saying anyones an agent sabateur...but just know that they are out there! FYI And that , by the way, is why I know law enforcement pick and choose who they prosecute...especially in the South...
  19. Did I mention I work top secret undercover for NASA? There really are martians...but if you call NASA they'll deny it...so I know what you mean potter...they just didn't want to break your cover! Thats more ridiculous than your racist view of Hawaiians...and I suspect other ethnic groups...
  20. Actually I called the PSPCA...I posted the number in case there was any question...I'll do it again..(215) 426-6300...I asked if they did undercover dog fighting investigations and was forwarded to a supervisor, who introduced herself as a law enforcement agent with the PSPCA...I asked again and then asked if they ever use non-law enforcement people...she said they absolutely NEVER use non-law enforcement people in their investigations...due to their ignorance of procedure and such...she then asked who was claiming they did and said perhaps it was someone trying to seem more important than they were...her words not mine...she then said there were only 4 agents who were authorized for undercover type operations...perhaps you can call her and tell her she is wrong... I would have given you the benefit of the doubt...maybe you were deputized or something, but the agent I spoke with said NO WAY! Maybe it was so top secret even she didn't know...not likely though...As far as the department...it was the department in charge of dog fighting investigations...they were very helpful in sending me straight to the source...I even heard her call out to one of the agents and ask if there were any other agents she didn't know about, I think she called him Wayne...I heard him say it was only them...(I hope I didn't break his cover just now)...
  21. Well, potter...seems like you may be a bit of a liar...I was curious how non-law enforcement people would be allowed to participate in undercover investigations, so I called the PSPCA [(215) 426-6300 and spoke with an agent...she told me absolutely not! Only law enforcement can participate, of which the PSPCA only has 4 agents. So were you law enforcement or do you just make stuff up? (Like the shit you just made up about the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and the Filipino's love of Americans? The US state Dept. seems to disagree with much of what you stated...are you also undercover state dept? You're done, son! Don't expect to just make shit up and get away with it...that kills credibility...and when you do it...it weakens the movement...truth is more powerful than lies... For the record...Vick will probably get a slap on the wrist...not because he's black, but cuz he's rich...class often trumps race....did someone say OJ?
  22. Yes, potter, you've already expressed your contempt for certain ethnic groups (Hawaiians) and as I said, racism plays a major role in deciding who gets prosecuted...and as I said before, as a whole law enforcement ignores the issue, but when they do decide to execute the full power of the law it is usually against a minority AND usually in association with other charges. Thats what happened with Vick, his cousin got in trouble on drug charges and they stumbled across the dog fighting. By the way...your contempt towards Hawaiians is ing...its very convenient that you can tie it to their animal abuse...I'm glad you don't live in Texas...you'd probably find it pretty convenient to hate Mexicans... (If others are unaware...potter believes Hawaiians are filthy and lazy(see Martial Arts and Nationalism post)...according to him they are the only polluters in Hawaii...nice...I grew up calling that racist...
  23. Before anyone misunderstands my point...if law enforcement would pursue these crimes with equal vigor we would see a dramatic change, but they don't. From my understanding, most dog fighting rings are busted in relation to drug trafficking...I believe that's what happened in Vick's case...also they tend not to go after the "gentleman" dog fighters, which is read as "white"...Instead they go after the dogs and enact breed specific laws...banning pitbulls...so the dog fighters just use Rotts or some other breed. Sadly it is the dogs that are often punished...I was very pleased to hear Jon Stewart defend the pitbulls while chastizing Vick. Anyways...I'm glad Vick was busted, I just wish they would really make a serious attempt to end the blood sport and not just make a big deal of it when its a famous, wealthy black man involved.
  24. Dog fighting is a felony in all states but 2, Wyoming is one, and I forget the other. As I stated before, it is unfortunate that the only instances prosecuted tend to be minorities... if you have any instances of white people being charged with dog /cock fighting please give me names and dates, I'm sure there's a few, but unfortunately those laws are usually used against minorities. I have owned pitbulls and have several books about them and their history, and everyone ghas the same info on dog fighting...they tell of the lost days when it was a "gentleman's sport" and show pictures and drawings of white men with handle bar mustaches, looking like members of a barber shop quartet, then they discuss how the sport has been taken over by "thugs" and show pictures and illustrations of black "gansters." Its all BS...its cruel no matter what, but there is a very strong element of racism involved in the decision of who gets prosecuted. Bottom line, law enforcement tends not to give a fuck unless they can take "thugs" off the street. When I lived in Texas some people advertised fighting roosters for sale in the newspaper...even though its against the law! When I reported it, noone knew who had jurisdiction over the crime. Eventually I got hold of a special crimes agent who said he'd pursue the case. Also in Texas, it was quite common for people to shoot stray dogs...VERY COMMON...but the only case ever tried was when a young black man stabbed a dog...that made city news for weeks! Yea, I guess the idea that law enforcement is racist...especially in the South is pretty preposterous!
  25. I'm a bit surprised that I have seen a spike in interest and concern about dog fighting because of this case. Maybe the brief exposure to the problem will do some good. I was particularly fond of Jon Stewart's reaction...he said Vick should be bathed in liver and let loose among the fighting dogs to see if he was as quick as everyone says...it's not very vegan, maybe we can bath him in something that doesn't come from an animal, maybe the livers of fellow dog fighters! I am a bit concerned about these kind of cases...when I lived in Texas, the only animal abuse cases were filed against minoroties, mostly blacks and Mexicans. Mean while the white folks enjoyed their rodeos, hunts and profits from the cattle industry. No doubt it was still abuse, but the good ol' boys in law enforcement only pursued cases against minoroties. Please, don't get me wrong, I hope Vick gets the full force of the law, but I suspect it will be for the wrong reasons...
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