DevilsAdvocate

http://www.menshealth.com/abs-diet-club/ hahah it introduces it as if its some new science special food groups to cut bodyfat and build muscle and guess what, its all spinich grains ans other plant based proteins... haha it cracked me up. check this out, the foods it recommends. " THE POWER 12 " top 3, nuts beans spinach http://www.menshealth.com/abs-diet-club/power-12.php

I'd definitely advise, its all about compunds, lots of squats!

ahh fair enough, best of luck dude. Im trying my best to fins mine and be realistic. I find that if i go back simple rules such as as 1high protein as possible, 2 nearly all whole nutritious & varied foods and 3, waiting for hunger/check whether i'm not just thirsty before eating It should do the job. Other than that, plenty of sleep and plenty of exercise. esier said than done

And I have to say, that doesn't look like much food if u are trying to bulk up. Maybe I'm eating way too much!

It all about the progress pics man!

Quinoa , Hemp and Peas too

We should definitely sticky a thread with photos for massive and ripped vegans. I bet there are a few people who have been posting here that could get the ball rolling with pics of themselves.

Thank you! Cutting out fruit for 6 weeks, that is a big commitment, what is in your maintenance diet? I'm keen to trim down and stay around 8-10% bodyfat

Cheer Man

Often physically tired, i need to nap, but eat to keep fuel in the tank cos I'm busy. I don't really get "tired of the cutting" because I love the rewards, but sometimes I get so happy i feel like my mission accomplished and then slack off, again back to square 1. I must look into this green tea or yerba mate tea. Cheers

Is anyone else suffering from the same thing. I decide right, I'm ready to cut. Get almost to the desired bodyfat % but then get tired and eat too much for a week or so thinking I'll gain some muscle and then back to square 1. Its never ending. I need to man up and commit to this, but why do I keep falling down the same trap....

Serious ix of information now. Surely It cant hurt to avoid some grains. Im definitely of the body type which is fairly muscular but I struggle to loose the last 10% bodyfat

I'm impressed!

U look like people should look like! Something from the animal kingdom. Good work!

So u took b12 out of it? U don't feel its necessary?

cheers, dont have the time now, lifting boxes and washing machines for a living now, hope itll keep me fit for a while.

So Its fair to say, Robert Derrick and Ed are Probably the most muscular vegans On the Planet. That's sweet, all the guys look great and still human, which is always good.

Long story short, this review says that grains reek havoc on your body. Humans simply haven't evolved to eat them. Does it say anything about this in Roberts book? http://www.beyondveg.com/cordain-l/grains-leg/grains-legumes-1a.shtml#late role

Is Marmite/Vegemite not considered Vegan? Surely its better for you than relying on supplements. Needing supplements to survive would suck, what ever happened to good old mother nature looking after us? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite

What are you guys saying about P90x?

marry me

Many people on here look pretty ripped but is there anybody HUGE on a vegan diet? I know there are MMA fighters going Vegan (mainly in the lighter devisions) and many great Athletes, but I'm yet to see evidence of the Hulks. Do Vegans way up against thier natursal meat eating comparisons. And although it is fairly contradictory does anybody know anyone who has taken steroids on a vegans diet just to stand next to the monsters and prove that the diet isn't the limiting factor? Please post pics!!