first off THANKYOU for the suport. Right now i believe ill follow lani's advice and take a break to concentrate on general fitness... o don't want this to become an obsetion although it sort of is (i guess you know what i mean) my days change alot cause i work strange hours in my pub....this is what i ate today. 12pm pasta (tomato, pesto...whatever is vegan) 3pm gym 6pm work start with a soymilk and fruit shake (bananas, strawberry) 8pm 2veggie burgers (or seitan) with salad 12am bread peanut butter jam 5am (before bed) a soyicream Plenty of crisps,vegan cakes, veggie sandwiches. cocacola and anything vegan that passes in fornt of me while i work. Before it was all hamburgers, pasta and chocolate bars...it sucked but i was stronger. Fatter but stronger...without having to THINK before eating. training: Monday- chest, bicepts. tuesday- back, tricepts wednesday- mtb (depends on my mood) thursday-shoulders, legs- friday or saturday (depends on my job and my kids) should be traps, abbs (haha) and a few light excercise for the rest. sometimes on sunday i go mtb again. I no longer di rugby or kickboxing. i'm not a verygood or strong bodybuilder. I go to the local gym and lift nowhere near what you guys do (nobody does here). (sorry about using kilograms)i used to lift 130 and now i'm lucky to lift 100kg (bench) i've gone from being 108km to 96 (quite stable now) i tried three months of soy suppliment but it didn't help and also felt like cheating...or worse it made me feel obsessed. Thanks for any advice