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Apparently BSN is getting sued for not having any CEE in their product. I stumbled across this the other day. Didn't really read through it cause I'm not to interested in BSN products. But thought people would like to see this. http://www.rippedacademy.com/quad/topic/BSN-Getting-Sued-888

great post

That is awesome to see everything laid out like that and all in one area. Great work.

Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness: Treatment Strategies and Performance Factors. Review Article Sports Medicine. 33(2):145-164, 2003. Cheung, Karoline 1; Hume, Patria A 1; Maxwell, Linda 2 Abstract: Delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) is a familiar experience for the elite or novice athlete. Symptoms can range from muscle tenderness to severe debilitating pain. The mechanisms, treatment strategies, and impact on athletic performance remain uncertain, despite the high incidence of DOMS. DOMS is most prevalent at the beginning of the sporting season when athletes are returning to training following a period of reduced activity. DOMS is also common when athletes are first introduced to certain types of activities regardless of the time of year. Eccentric activities induce micro-injury at a greater frequency and severity than other types of muscle actions. The intensity and duration of exercise are also important factors in DOMS onset. Up to six hypothesised theories have been proposed for the mechanism of DOMS, namely: lactic acid, muscle spasm, connective tissue damage, muscle damage, inflammation and the enzyme efflux theories. However, an integration of two or more theories is likely to explain muscle soreness. DOMS can affect athletic performance by causing a reduction in joint range of motion, shock attenuation and peak torque. Alterations in muscle sequencing and recruitment patterns may also occur, causing unaccustomed stress to be placed on muscle ligaments and tendons. These compensatory mechanisms may increase the risk of further injury if a premature return to sport is attempted. A number of treatment strategies have been introduced to help alleviate the severity of DOMS and to restore the maximal function of the muscles as rapidly as possible. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs have demonstrated dosage-dependent effects that may also be influenced by the time of administration. Similarly, massage has shown varying results that may be attributed to the time of massage application and the type of massage technique used. Cryotherapy, stretching, homeopathy, ultrasound and electrical current modalities have demonstrated no effect on the alleviation of muscle soreness or other DOMS symptoms. Exercise is the most effective means of alleviating pain during DOMS, however the analgesic effect is also temporary. Athletes who must train on a daily basis should be encouraged to reduce the intensity and duration of exercise for 1-2 days following intense DOMS-inducing exercise. Alternatively, exercises targeting less affected body parts should be encouraged in order to allow the most affected muscle groups to recover. Eccentric exercises or novel activities should be introduced progressively over a period of 1 or 2 weeks at the beginning of, or during, the sporting season in order to reduce the level of physical impairment and/or training disruption. There are still many unanswered questions relating to DOMS, and many potential areas for future research.

I think I opened up the wrong can of worms. The causes of muscle sorness are still unknown. It appears to be a combination of factors. 1: J Sports Med Phys Fitness. 1994 Sep;34(3):203-16.Links Exercise-induced muscle pain, soreness, and cramps.Miles MP, Clarkson PM. Department of Exercise Science, University of Massachusetts, Amherst. The three types of pain related to exercise are 1) pain experienced during or immediately following exercise, 2) delayed onset muscle soreness, and 3) pain induced by muscle cramps. Each is characterized by a different time course and different etiology. Pain perceived during exercise is considered to result from a combination of factors including acids, ions, proteins, and hormones. Although it is commonly believed that lactic acid is responsible for this pain, evidence suggests that it is not the only factor. However, no single factor has ever been identified. Delayed onset muscle soreness develops 24-48 hours after strenuous exercise biased toward eccentric (muscle lengthening) muscle actions or strenuous endurance events like a marathon. Soreness is accompanied by a prolonged strength loss, a reduced range of motion, and elevated levels of creatine kinase in the blood. These are taken as indirect indicators of muscle damage, and biopsy analysis has documented damage to the contractile elements. The exact cause of the soreness response is not known but thought to involve an inflammatory reaction to the damage. Muscle cramps are sudden, intense, electrically active contractions elicited by motor neuron hyperexcitability. Although it is commonly assumed that cramps during exercise are the result of fluid electrolyte imbalance induced by sweating, two studies have not supported this. Moreover, participants in occupations that require chronic use of a muscle but do not elicit profuse sweating, such as musicians, often experience cramps. Fluid electrolyte imbalance may cause cramps if there is profuse prolonged sweating such as that found in working in a hot environment. Thus, despite the common occurrence of pain associated with exercise, the exact cause of these pains remains a mystery. PMID: 7830383 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] I love this stuff.

I'm sorry to be the one to shatter the world that everyone lives in . . . BUT LACTIC ACID DOES NOT CAUSE DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness ~ the soreness that you feel 24-48 hours after a workout). Case in point, how many people have gone on a run or bike ride and felt the "burn" in their legs. Lots of people . . . right? That burn is lactic acid and yes, the more you train the less lactic acid your body will produce at that same intensity. But I bet most people woke up the next day after that burning run and were not sore!! It is a very old myth that lactic acid causes DOMS. Lactic acid cause acute muscle soreness, which stops at the cessation of the exercise. If you have ever wanted to know about DOMS and muscle damage just do a PubMed search or google scholar search on Dr. Priscilla M. Clarkson from UMASS Amherst (very bright women). To get back to the original question, just because a muscle isn't sore the next day doesn't mean that it hasn't been stimulated. There are still molecular changes that will occur from being overloaded, which will result in increases in strength and muscle fiber size (hypertrophy). Just lift hard in the gym and if your not sore, so be it, if you are progressing in weight and workload the body will respond. And I agree with everyone else, each person's recovery time is different and workout tolerances are different. If you are still lifting heavier each session, sleeping well, staying hungry, staying horney, and a bunch of other signs, then you're not overtraining.

I'm interested Couture, I tried to PM you and it didn't work. Just shoot me an e-mail and we can talk: [email protected]

You'll get there, what are you at now? You might not weigh as much as I do, but you sure as heck look better. I'm not even going to tell you what I weigh. As they say in bodybuilding, "it's not how much you weigh, but how much you look like you weigh!" Anyway, my goal is to step on stage at least 20 lbs heavier but with the same conditioning. My plan is to bulk for the next two years or so (maybe throw some cut phases in along the way. Such as bulk for 2 months and then cut for 1 month). Last "off season" I got my weight to the highest it ever has been which was 148lbs with about 9% bodyfat. I would like to get to 155lbs-160lbs with 10% bodyfat or less over the next two years. And then compete in the summer of 2010. We'll see how it goes. School and getting into grad school/PhD programs is my main focus right now. The lifting and eating is second. I do it to keep me sane more than anything. Keep up the good work Zack . . . you're almost there.

DAMN!! This motivates me!! I won't get to 200 anytime soon, but I can at least try!! Keep up the good work gentlemen. Train hard and eat big!

GREAT EVENT!!!! I was one of the volunteers helping feed the 250+ people. Hope you enjoyed the meal. Anyone in the NY area should be at this event next year. Mark your calender now. The people who run this place (Jenny and Doug) are the two coolest and nicest people in the world. A great place to spend some time at. They always need help.

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Looking great Joe. Give it hell!!! I actually have a friend who is going to compete in that show (much higher weight class). Hopefully I'll be there to watch in Sept. But for now I'll follow along.

The stairmaster is brutal. What a workout. Most have an interval program where it doesn two mins "slow" then two mins "fast." That really jacks up the heart rate. Lots of fun.

At my gym on the stationary bike (recumbant and upright) they have a "program" called hills plus. That thing is killer. The same program is on the elliptical with the arms. Great work out. My heart rate usually stays between 150-180 during those sessions. Basically it's a 10 min warm-up where your heart rate gets up and then it's a series of 4 hills each with increasing height or resistance. The sprints are 1 min long with 1 min recovery between. I usually do about 12 sprints total. The workout takes about 40 min (10 min warm-up, 25 mins sprints/recover, 5 min cooldown). You can go as long or as short as you want. Give it a try.

Are you saying that you bought it with no flavoring, just stevia as a sweetner and it tastes good? Are you mixing this is the soy milk or just water?

Thanks for finding this out. I figured they were.

This is the exact reason that I started doing it. Soymilk sounds like a great way to add even more options. Esp. since now the holidays are coming and the soy milks start to come in really weird (but good) flavors. Like chocolate peppermint.

Does anyone know where the "flavors" are derived from? Are they "natural flavors" or not. Just curious to know before I buy. I could just buy the plain but that doesn't sound as good as bananas n' cream or forbiddn fruit punch.

pea protein rice protein lite extra firm or fim tofu almonds/almond butter peanut butter flaxseed oil broccoli cauliflower spinach grapefruit

Do you have a recipie to make this? I bought it recently from an asian market and loved it. I want to make a huge batch.

funny question . . . i've actually been working on and off @ T & S for teh past three years. I work there during the summer and winter break . . . not so much during the semester. Where did/do you shop?

1. soyboy 2. lifelight a.veggie b.flax c.wild rice d.three grain Man i love tempeh I like soyboy best because it's already cooked so you can just open the pack and eat.

Zack, I'm with you. I'm very simple with my food. Right out of the pack with mustard sounds great. Usually, I just drown it in hot sauce. Tempeh is great. It's easy, clean, portable, cheap, bland, and healthy!

I have to say two things. 1.) I need to try this gemma stuff because the price of pure advantage is pretty high! 2.) I love the pure advange pea protein . . try this . .. it'll knock your socks off. 4-6 oz of water 1 scoop of pure advantage pea protein 1 teaspoon of cinnamon (or more if your like me) 1.5 tbls of natural peanut butter Combine all ingredients and mix in a wide cup until you get the most delicous protein PUDDING! The key is using just the right amount of water. You want pudding. I like it really thick so I can chew it. Remeber wit the water . . . you can always add . . . but you can't take away!

I'll be there in Boston