rickb

When you start to look into longevity, and even more so when you start looking into the lives of centenarians you will start to see a common factor in their lives: WALKING.

 

Seems to be about an 30-60mins a day for most. There has been the odd runner, I can't recall his name but there was a Japanese man that when he was in his 90's he ran a 14 or 15sec 100m race !! He's still alive and has outlived ALL of his doctors, and from memory stopped eating dinner in his 80's (his doctor told him that would kill him, but his doctor since died).

Wow! That's...just wow! If you think of his name, let us know. I'd be interested in reading up on him more.

Be careful with white potatoes too. Not that they are bad in a smaller quantity, but they have a higher GI rating than sweet potatoes. I never eat white potatoes when cutting.

My doctor admitted to me that my diet was healthier than his. He did this readily with no bias. He actually understands the problems associated with meat because he has to deal with treating them on a day to day basis. His opinion is based on science and not an "I do it so it's the best" mentality.

 

There is a goldilocks zone for longevity. I think its around 10-15 miles per week. C.O. Posted an article about over exercising. viewtopic.php?f=47&t=28399 That is the reason why you see some long distance runners having heart attacks. Not because of their diet like most people assume. Running seems to be the way to longevity, however, only to a certain extent.

 

10 miles per week really isn't that much. I think you could take an in between approach and do both running and bodybuilding at the same time.

That's good he is more open-minded! I have a theory about number of steps in one's life. I think small dogs live longer (on average) than big dogs because they take way more steps in their lifetime to travel the same distance. Is my theory too far out there? Lol

I know I have been MIA but have been super busy with work and training. I have my first 10k Saturday followed by a 5k Saturday night. Just wanted to update

That's getting it done! Good luck!

Tearing this log up! keep up the great work!

Well I basically went from being a meat eating bodybuilder (I wasn't actually a bodybuilder but I was on a bodybuilding diet) and now I'm a vegetarian (almost a vegan) runner. From my personal experiences running and avoiding animal products is much healthier. I almost destroyed my bowel from following that diet, I was constantly bloated, I had diarrhea every day (probably from lactose intolerance), I had low testosterone, I had no energy, and I simply felt like shit. I recently got into a heated debate from a nutritionist/bodybuilder Alan Aragon about veganism and bodybuilding which is what motivated me to start this thread. To sum up the debate, I asked him about if it's healthy to use wheat protein as my primary source of protein on a vegan diet and he responded to me by asking me why I want to become vegan. I told him that I want to become vegan because of my views on animal rights and he responded by telling me that becoming a vegan will be detrimental to my health and that I'm sacrificing my health for animals. I responded to him by telling him that bodybuilding isn't necessarily healthy either and there are studies that show that calorie restriction could lead to longevity which is basically the opposite of bodybuilding. He really didn't know how to respond to that and he basically told me that he's not interested in what I have to say because I'm not a professional in his field and he eventually decided to block me on facebook which was really mature of him (sarcasm).

Well....you can't fix ------! It's a shame there are so many close-minded people and it will be to their detriment!

I agree with MiniF! BB'er definitely aren't as healthy as most of them would like to believe. I don't do that much cardio unless I'm working up towards a motocross race because frankly, busting off short intense sets of weights is not that beneficial for endurance. I control my BF more with diet than cardio and someone that concentrates on endurance will kick my butt on anything that requires it. My motos last about 15-20 minutes and I am drained after that LOL

THURSDAY 28th JUNE

 

Port Hills hilly trail/road run

 

 

 

 

TIME: 4hr30

DIST: 41km

AVG SPD: 9.11kph

 

** Had good fun with this, had the day off work and headed up into the hills with some food and good music. Easy(ish) and consistent pace throughout.

Man what beautiful country!!!! Where I live has such huge pines and hardwoods that you can't see far off very many places. Nice run there too and sounds like a great day!

Injuries are aggravating for sure! Don't rush it though or you may set yourself back further. Maybe when the pain is light enough start doing therapy with very light weight and inch up every few days. Hope you get it worked out soon! Killer log here!

....When I stop getting DOMS for specific bodypart...I switch things up. I do however think you can progress even in muscles you don't necessarily get DOMS in. But I like it.

 

DOMS has nothing to do with progression. It can be a sensor for progress in the initial stages (that you simply attacked a new direction with a muscle).

I went from 90 pound deadlift to 315 pound in 9 months and didn't get any DOMS except in the beginning - a clear example

I disagree with "has nothing to do with progression". It sure lets me know what I hit. And when DOMS is nearly gone or gone all the way...those muscles feel ready to fire again. But as I insinuated above ...I don't think it's a a must. But it mentally satisfies me.

So having shorter doms is better?

The only time it's mattered to me is if I wanted to repeat a bodypart in the same week but was too sore to do so. What a lot of people don't understand is that you don't grow while you are in the gym. You tear yourself down there which does cause micro-tears in your muscles and when you heal up with diet and rest....that's when you are apt to get stronger. When I stop getting DOMS for specific bodypart...I switch things up. I do however think you can progress even in muscles you don't necessarily get DOMS in. But I like it.

I'm a weirdo and love DOMS! Makes me think I did a good job trashing my muscles

Wow!!! "Sheeple"...yup!

Yeah it seems we are headed in the wrong direction. The rights to free speech may be disappearing

http://www.alternet.org/environment/tennessee-official-says-complaining-about-water-quality-could-be-considered-act

Like mentioned above by others, you can NOT spot reduce fat. The first place you gained fat (if you were ever thin)...is the last place you will lose fat. It's just a sign of where your body type starts storing fat first. And visceral fat is (from what I know) is surrounding your organs.

http://www.predatornutrition.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bodyfat.gif

Abs are made in the kitchen. Track your diet macros closely and aim for 40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat. The last thing you want to do is work out your abs and make them bigger. It'll make you look like you have a gut.

I agree with your first part, but abs don't really grow like other muscles. You can work the piss out of them and they only just add definition....not really get huge if that makes sense. But you are spot-on with the first part. I don't do a ton of cardio, I control most with diet.

Hey Rick,

 

Good to see you active in the forums already

 

Good luck with the transition, so your not vegan yet? However are 60-70% raw already nice!!! What are you sstill eating, meat or dairy?

 

Jub

Once in a while I still eat chicken (I know ) but I do still eat cheese and once in a while drink milk. But I prefer almond milk....just don't always have it. Thanks for the welcome! I'm no noob to working out and forums. I am an admin on another weight lifting forum...but since the desire to swing my diet...I found this.

Vic Costa has one that I own that I really like. He is a natural and has a phenomenal physique! He really explains how to connect your mind to your muscle.

Hi Mike. Noob here as well!

Awesome! Way to go!

Good to see this log and let me just say that if you are wanting to maximize lifts to grow more mass, do cardio AFTER you lift. If you are just doing it this way for general fitness...carry on.

Great pics btw and if running is your "main thing"...just carry on like I said. LOL!

haha! Great post! I'll be following along to your road of beastness!

Awesome log! I'm new here and skipped over a lot but you've achieved some beastly stuff! I'll be following along from now on! Keep tearing it up!

Your progress is VERY apparent! Great job and keep up the good work!!! You've got this!

Thanks for the reply. We do actually have a strength session in nearly every crossfit class, with compound lifts being the main focus......SO MUCH SQUATTING... Haha.

Yes and that is good but let me explain here to expound a bit. Most bodybuilders do a split and there is a reason for it. It allows you to severely tear the targeted bodyparts down in a single session. For example, my split is like this

Monday - Legs & Abs

Tuesday - Chest & Biceps

Wednesday - Abs & Cardio (or take off)

Thursday - Back

Friday - Shoulders and Triceps

A thorough thrashing of specific muscles is what sparks growth. Crossfit is like a full-body workout in most every session. And I'm not dismissing the intensity of crossfit. It would kick my butt! I am a fan of cross-fit, but it doesn't suit my goals of bodybuilding. It would however suit my motocross hobby much better. Make sense?

Here's an analogy that might make more sense. Think of crossfit being akin to a long distance runner. Think of a bodybuilder as a sprinter. I say this because of heart rate and goals. Crossfit and long distance runners takes endurance primarily, but also strength. A bodybuilder busts off a short but intense set (in most cases) similar to a sprinter. Now let's compare a long distance runner to a sprinter on leg size:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fUCTwYe2F7c/Sjut3UwQfaI/AAAAAAAAAEo/79yUKr70qnE/s320/KehresBlog+-+Sprinters.jpg

Hi! I'm new here but not new to lifting and building muscle. IMO, crossfit is not really going to pack on a ton of muscle. Crossfit to me (and some can correct me if I'm wrong) is primarily endurance oriented with strength being secondary. 4 of the best exercises you can do to pack on mass are deadlifts, squats, bench press, and pull-ups. Especially the deadlifts and squats! These tap into your natural reaction to adjust to supply of strength for the demand you put on it. Great mass builders imo! But that said....be very careful of form on squats and deadlifts. It's best to have someone instruct you or video yourself with lighter weight and check your form. Youtube can be good for instruction videos for form on these movements too.

As far as tips on a vegan bulk, I can't really chime in here. I'll follow along though and see what others say.

Hi! I'm new here as well! Just keep your focus and you can achieve your goals.

Workout basics that are my belief:

if you do cardio, do it after lifting or on a day by itself. Muscle energy mostly derived from glycogen is depleted after cardio and lessened by lifting. So cardio imo is best suited at the end of your lifting session. Since your glycogen is depleted or reduced greatly from the lifting, your cardio will finish that and start looking for reserves which is fat. You can use cardio for a warmup prior to weights, but I think it's best to keep it 5min or thereabouts so you have plenty energy for tearing down your muscles with lifting.

I just felt compelled to see that because I see so many noobs in the gym do this backwards. Best of luck and keep us posted!

Rick