barrylove

thanks for the compliments

I think the point you guys missed was that NO butterflies were killed for that exhibition ....the dead one's were donated by an elderly gentleman from his old collection....

 

This old chap just managed to come across a load of exotic, but sadly dead, butterflies?

 

They were at some point captured and killed for this man's collection. His collection then ends up in the exhibition.

 

I can't see what point I'm missing..........

Can we get of this subject, Please?

 

Maybe this thread can get deleted so all the PERFECT people can relax and give us fellow vegans a brake and save it for the outside world.

 

Robert is trying to do a good thing here..and he is, but some of you are making it very hard for him. R E L A X - Whatever point you are trying to make is getting you nowhere in this forum.

 

I think you are the one that needs to relax, so try it sometime.

 

The point I was making is not whether Bigbwii was right or wrong going to this exhibition, not whether he did or did not know that dead butterflies would be on display. I will call him up when he says that no butterflies were killed for that exhibition when obviously they were. No, not specifically so. The fact remains - dispute it all you want - these butterflies were killed for display purposes. These butterflies eventually find their way to an exhibition. Conclusion = these butterflies were killed for this exhibition.

Yeah...You right..your 100% right.

Have a great day ole chap!

I think the point you guys missed was that NO butterflies were killed for that exhibition ....the dead one's were donated by an elderly gentleman from his old collection....

 

This old chap just managed to come across a load of exotic, but sadly dead, butterflies?

 

They were at some point captured and killed for this man's collection. His collection then ends up in the exhibition.

 

I can't see what point I'm missing..........

Can we get of this subject, Please?

Maybe this thread can get deleted so all the PERFECT people can relax and give us fellow vegans a brake and save it for the outside world.

Robert is trying to do a good thing here..and he is, but some of you are making it very hard for him. R E L A X - Whatever point you are trying to make is getting you nowhere in this forum.

I'm in!

Your Dr. is a piece of POOP!

they know nothing about diet and nutrition..absolutely nothing!

If you don't wish to eat dairy,then don't!

A dentist!! Who the heck is he to suggest nutritional advice.

I didn't read all of the posts, but hopefully you have been convinced to go back to being vegan. trust me, you will get you calcium from a plant based diet.

Good Luck!

Yes..I am in!

Thanks Big! Glad to be back!

Rob > Awesome definition! Good Job!

Good going! And you look fine . Don't get self-conscous on us now.

LOL.....I know..I hear that ALL the time from my wife

THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT!

Gosh!!! Do we ever like the way we look?

Well here are pics from an article that was done on me in the local newspaper.

I am doing everything I possibly can to spread the word

http://lehighvalleynewsgroup.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=149001

yes..in respect to Robert and the other great people on here who ask me to hang out I believe it is the right thing to do.

I will try to post often, but like robert and a few of you other professionals life is sooo busy......but a great busy at that!

calves are something you either have or you dont...... ive known people who do calves like everyday and mine were still bigger and i was doing them like once a week..... ive realized they dont really get bigger, ever, just more ripped..... but thats just my expierence

 

I do agree that there are people born with great calves and people born with virtually no calves. I belong to the latter category. I also believe that it is quite challenging to get calves to grow in size -- they seem to be extraordinarily stubborn compared to other muscles -- but anecdotal evidence underlines that they are not incapable of hypertrophy.

After being in the industry for so long I am ask that question: 'Why are calves so hard grow?"

I have never done a full scale research on this but my opinion is that yes it is genetics, but also it is a muslce that never rests. We all know how important it is to rest your muscles in order for them to grow and grow big.

funny also..I have friends that ask for half of my calves..lol

Hi and welcome!

Thank you!

SEE WHAT HAPPENS!

THIS is what happens when you preach AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE.........

 

Now you have p*#&&ed off a fellow vegan...a fellow advocate!

There is another thread I belong to and the same thing happens! Some of 'US' just don't get it!

 

It sounds like you have some pent up anger festering inside of you toward "advocates", and you were dying to unleash on somebody. My advice: if your gym doesnt have punching bags, get one, because this forum will NOT be your personal punching bag. If you are itching, in other words, to blow up and unleash some venom, do it elsewhere. You have a total of, like, 10 posts on this forum and yet you feel it is appropriate for you to launch such a scathing attack yelling at people with your use of capital letters?

 

Obviously, if somebody posts pictures, on a vegan forum, of a butterfly exhibit, then the question may arise whether those butterflies are real or not, and if real, whether they were murdered for the purpose of an exhibition. This is not an unfair or inappropriate inquiry. CollegeB's post did serve to educate some people on this thread, and if you will notice, that "some people" includes myself and Big. And, after we were all educated by College B, people rightly expressed their concerns and opinions. Something that every board member has the right to do, so long as there is no malice, etc. Considering the nature of this forum, and the fact that we are all in the company of many passionate people who detest animal exploitation, discussions like these arent outrageous or inappropriate, and anything that is publicly posted is fair game and open to challenge, inquiry, criticism, praise, etc.

 

EDUCATE THEM, but ONLY if they ask!

 

Bahh!!!!!!!!! What an assinine sentiment, not to mention one that lacks empathy. If the animal protection movement was to wait for people " to ask" before it tried raising awareness and educating, there would be a lot less vegans in the world, and a lot more animal cruelty and exploitation. I wonder if you would still want activists to "wait for people to ask" if you were the one being stolen from the wild and killed for an exhibit, anally electrocuted for your fur or delimbed while fully conscious.

 

 

IF YOU WANT TO SRPEAD THE WORD DON'T BE SOOOOOOOO FRIKKKEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN CRITICAL ABOUT EVERY LITTLE DETAIL!

 

Hmm...again, maybe a butterfly is a "little detail" to you, but I bet you would feel differently if you were the butterfly who was minding her own business in nature until you got scooped up and killed for the sake of an exhibition.

 

You want to spread the word? STOP lecturing, especially to the choir, and START educating! All of you who hammered bigwii have ticket him off and he left. IF your OWN people don't want to hear your crap, what do you think a person from the general public is going to think? Do you REALLY think they will listen to you when ALL you do is find everything wrong they do and kill them over it?

 

When "all we do is find everything wrong and kill them over it?" Do you even know the people who have participated in this thread, and what they do and what they dont do? Because that is a pretty presumptuous statement on your part. Yes, you are right, all "we" do is sit by and fffind everytying wronf with people adn kill them over it

 

My gosh! If ANY of you don't realise this and are to stubborn to understand it then you have more issues then we care to know about.

I just got on this site and this thread is a real dissapointment!

How the heck can you lecture someone like bigwii when he didn't even put a debate out there? He was showing pictures of him and his daughter for crying out loud!

 

 

To reiterate, when you post pictures, on a vegan forum, of dead animals that are being exhibited, it is not a stretch that a discussion just like the one in this thread will ensue. Obviously this is beyond your grasp, however. People have a right to express their views so long as board etiquette is respected. Yes, sometimes those views may not always be what another board member wants to hear, or may seem harsh. But that is hardly suprising or unexpected. And, yes, Barrylove, believe or not, even "we" have disagreements and heated debates with "our own kind."

 

A few more odds and ends: I dont know what your deal is, but based on both the content and tone of your post, you seem to be an apologist for animal exploitation. I have absolutely no use for apologists.

 

Ummm.......an 'animal apologost'? yeah..your right just like you are in ALL of your posts. You have NO CLUE how I feel about animal cruelty and torture..no clue.

Try reading your posts from 'outside the box' and see how you are percieved. WOW....

LMAO! - I have pent up anger? LOL.....tooooooo funny

Again...go look at all of YOUR posts...

 

Well, this is exactly how I knew you in particular were going to respond.

I am going to try my best to stay away from you and your 'I AM RIGHT AND NOBODY ELSE IS' posts. If I can't get away I may have joined the wrong group here.

 

You.....you may want to look at yourself. I am not sure how old you are but first on your list may be to grow up and realize there is a world out there and it is not only yours

WHOOAAAAAA..you have to be kidding me! This just added!

You are a moderator? I say again, A moderator!

That is tooooo funny that a moderator acts like this in a forum that one is suppose to moderate. WOW! Now I get it. You ar a moderator on this site so you are always right about everything. Hmmm...funny how that is not how it works on other forums, but THEY must be wrong. You will have to make sure they do it YOUR way..OK? Then we will all be just how you want us.

With that mentioned I am out of here.....

So, compassionategirl/moderator that means I will not be checking back so there really is no need to respond to me.

unreal..that you say I am an 'an apologist for animal exploitation'..you have no clue what so ever

sorry Robert, but I will look you up elsewhere

SEE WHAT HAPPENS!

THIS is what happens when you preach AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE.........

 

Now you have p*#&&ed off a fellow vegan...a fellow advocate!

There is another thread I belong to and the same thing happens! Some of 'US' just don't get it!

 

It sounds like you have some pent up anger festering inside of you toward "advocates", and you were dying to unleash on somebody. My advice: if your gym doesnt have punching bags, get one, because this forum will NOT be your personal punching bag. If you are itching, in other words, to blow up and unleash some venom, do it elsewhere. You have a total of, like, 10 posts on this forum and yet you feel it is appropriate for you to launch such a scathing attack yelling at people with your use of capital letters?

 

Obviously, if somebody posts pictures, on a vegan forum, of a butterfly exhibit, then the question may arise whether those butterflies are real or not, and if real, whether they were murdered for the purpose of an exhibition. This is not an unfair or inappropriate inquiry. CollegeB's post did serve to educate some people on this thread, and if you will notice, that "some people" includes myself and Big. And, after we were all educated by College B, people rightly expressed their concerns and opinions. Something that every board member has the right to do, so long as there is no malice, etc. Considering the nature of this forum, and the fact that we are all in the company of many passionate people who detest animal exploitation, discussions like these arent outrageous or inappropriate, and anything that is publicly posted is fair game and open to challenge, inquiry, criticism, praise, etc.

 

EDUCATE THEM, but ONLY if they ask!

 

Bahh!!!!!!!!! What an assinine sentiment, not to mention one that lacks empathy. If the animal protection movement was to wait for people " to ask" before it tried raising awareness and educating, there would be a lot less vegans in the world, and a lot more animal cruelty and exploitation. I wonder if you would still want activists to "wait for people to ask" if you were the one being stolen from the wild and killed for an exhibit, anally electrocuted for your fur or delimbed while fully conscious.

 

 

IF YOU WANT TO SRPEAD THE WORD DON'T BE SOOOOOOOO FRIKKKEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN CRITICAL ABOUT EVERY LITTLE DETAIL!

 

Hmm...again, maybe a butterfly is a "little detail" to you, but I bet you would feel differently if you were the butterfly who was minding her own business in nature until you got scooped up and killed for the sake of an exhibition.

 

You want to spread the word? STOP lecturing, especially to the choir, and START educating! All of you who hammered bigwii have ticket him off and he left. IF your OWN people don't want to hear your crap, what do you think a person from the general public is going to think? Do you REALLY think they will listen to you when ALL you do is find everything wrong they do and kill them over it?

 

When "all we do is find everything wrong and kill them over it?" Do you even know the people who have participated in this thread, and what they do and what they dont do? Because that is a pretty presumptuous statement on your part. Yes, you are right, all "we" do is sit by and fffind everytying wronf with people adn kill them over it

 

My gosh! If ANY of you don't realise this and are to stubborn to understand it then you have more issues then we care to know about.

I just got on this site and this thread is a real dissapointment!

How the heck can you lecture someone like bigwii when he didn't even put a debate out there? He was showing pictures of him and his daughter for crying out loud!

 

 

To reiterate, when you post pictures, on a vegan forum, of dead animals that are being exhibited, it is not a stretch that a discussion just like the one in this thread will ensue. Obviously this is beyond your grasp, however. People have a right to express their views so long as board etiquette is respected. Yes, sometimes those views may not always be what another board member wants to hear, or may seem harsh. But that is hardly suprising or unexpected. And, yes, Barrylove, believe or not, even "we" have disagreements and heated debates with "our own kind."

 

A few more odds and ends: I dont know what your deal is, but based on both the content and tone of your post, you seem to be an apologist for animal exploitation. I have absolutely no use for apologists.

Ummm.......an 'animal apologost'? yeah..your right just like you are in ALL of your posts. You have NO CLUE how I feel about animal cruelty and torture..no clue.

Try reading your posts from 'outside the box' and see how you are percieved. WOW....

LMAO! - I have pent up anger? LOL.....tooooooo funny

Again...go look at all of YOUR posts...

Well, this is exactly how I knew you in particular were going to respond.

I am going to try my best to stay away from you and your 'I AM RIGHT AND NOBODY ELSE IS' posts. If I can't get away I may have joined the wrong group here.

You.....you may want to look at yourself. I am not sure how old you are but first on your list may be to grow up and realize there is a world out there and it is not only yours

SEE WHAT HAPPENS!

THIS is what happens when you preach AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE AND PREACH AND LECTURE.........

Now you have p*#&&ed off a fellow vegan...a fellow advocate!

There is another thread I belong to and the same thing happens! Some of 'US' just don't get it!

IF YOU WANT TO SRPEAD THE WORD DON'T BE SOOOOOOOO FRIKKKEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN CRITICAL ABOUT EVERY LITTLE DETAIL!

You want to spread the word? STOP lecturing, especially to the choir, and START educating! All of you who hammered bigwii have ticket him off and he left. IF your OWN people don't want to hear your crap, what do you think a person from the general public is going to think? Do you REALLY think they will listen to you when ALL you do is find everything wrong they do and kill them over it? EDUCATE THEM, but ONLY if they ask!

My gosh! If ANY of you don't realise this and are to stubborn to understand it then you have more issues then we care to know about.

I just got on this site and this thread is a real dissapointment!

How the heck can you lecture someone like bigwii when he didn't even put a debate out there? He was showing pictures of him and his daughter for crying out loud!

sad sad sad if all you can do is find WRONG in everything. Some people just don't get it..they really don't.........

Killer calves! I assume you are genetically gifted for this body part. Or have you used the 600 hours of dedicated painful calf-work that Arnold talked about??

Ready for this CRAZY workout?

I HAVE NEVER, EVER, EVER DONE CALVES!!!!!!!!

The guys at the gym flip out when I tell them that!

Here is a funny..I train the Philadelphia Force professional fast Pitch softball team and the first time we met ALL teh girls, within 2 minutes were saying, 'Holy cow! Look at your calves!', 'Damn those are awesome!' and embarrising things like that.

They are actually cut and very define. The pic looks more like bulky.

I say all of this but with much embarresment. trust me no ego here. These are just the things I am told and hear constantly.

Welcome barrylove. I got to meet a good majority of these folks up in Portland last week. They are great people and we had a blast! You are in good company..

 

Steve

'Vegan Power'

Thanks stove6!

They look pretty big, have you got a photo from further away so we can see the muscle in relation to the rest of your body?

LOL..I took this pic last night with my Treo!

I will ask my wife to take a better pic. She will be shaking her head!

Thank you everyone!

Robert..I did get your DVD and it was AWESOME!

we have been letting members borrow it and they love it! They ask me to make on also GOOD JOB!

Thanks again everyone for the warm welcome!

HAHAHAHA....Got you ALL to check this out!

 

I hear it all the time about my huge gastrocs!

 

check em out!

HAHAHAHA....Got you ALL to check this out!

I hear it all the time about my huge gastrocs!

check em out!

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Well, here are a few pics. The shritless is from tonight. Played around with camera. DON'T MIND THE GLASSES! getting old you know!!!!

Hopefully, they come out.

 

http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbitchesjune2520060128tp.jpg

 

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7448/sbitchesjune2520060128tp.th.jpg[/url][/img]

 

This one is from adn appearance I did at a grand opening for a gym a few weeks ago. There were ladies from this gym who do my DVD together twice a week and they call tehmselves Barry's Bitches! too Funny!

 

BARRY'S BITCHES! With special shrits and all!

 

 

noticed youre from allentown. didnt know there was other vegan lifters near where I used to live. I'm from the Poconos

Lived in the area all my life..Catasauqua actually

We were just in White Haven this weekend and stayed at the Inn at Hickory Run. What an awesome place! THe guy made us an unreal vegan breakfast each morning!

Well, here are a few pics. The shritless is from tonight. Played around with camera. DON'T MIND THE GLASSES! getting old you know!!!!

Hopefully, they come out.

http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbitchesjune2520060128tp.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7448/sbitchesjune2520060128tp.th.jpg[/url][/img]

This one is from adn appearance I did at a grand opening for a gym a few weeks ago. There were ladies from this gym who do my DVD together twice a week and they call tehmselves Barry's Bitches! too Funny!

BARRY'S BITCHES! With special shrits and all!

Hello everyone!

I am a member of a few other vegan forums and did not know this one existed. Glad I found it!

I will try to post as often as possible. Things are very busy at the gym and other aspects of my life

Talk to you all soon!